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Post Post #1350 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:11 pm

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Like i didnt know T3's alignment then but i know it now

You play like you knew he was town the whole way along
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Post Post #1351 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:11 pm

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In post 1347, Morning Tweet wrote:It's not even so much that townreading T3 in of itself is a problem (although i find it questionable), it's just that you had absolutely zero backing to the read whatsoever yet you blindly defended him against all accusations, even reasonable ones.
I defended them against one post iirc

If all the accusations were in one post, then they would still be here rn
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Post Post #1352 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:12 pm

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In post 1350, Morning Tweet wrote:You play like you knew he was town the whole way along
Soulread :3
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Post Post #1353 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:18 pm

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In post 1351, flow trap wrote:
In post 1347, Morning Tweet wrote:It's not even so much that townreading T3 in of itself is a problem (although i find it questionable), it's just that you had absolutely zero backing to the read whatsoever yet you blindly defended him against all accusations, even reasonable ones.
I defended them against one post iirc

If all the accusations were in one post, then they would still be here rn
In post 1207, flow trap wrote:
In post 1206, Farren wrote:Trying to justify anti-town behavior. (1152)
"Trying"
In post 1154, flow trap wrote:Made up reason#Made up read
In post 1152, flow trap wrote:
In post 1151, Morning Tweet wrote:i dunno, we got T3 voting Farren (most likely elimination that might work), giving reads, going back and saying he made up the reasoning rather than not just outright saying he doesnt have reasoning, and some "scum!me doesn't do X" type stuff

I have never seen T3 completely make up reads. Have reads without elaboration, sure, but does town!T3 feel the need to make shit up..? Surely town!T3 doesn't give any fucks right?

And again it's just convenient his scumread happens to be Farren who gamestate-wise *could* be elimed if enough ppl sheeped Ich.

T3's best arguments for being town are that he would've sent me to Heaven if scum (???) and that he's more involved with discussion as scum. Oh and that he's lazy as town but not as scum??
In post 1148, T3 wrote: Not true. Town!me is usually passive and blurts things out meanwhile scum!me actively engages with discussions. Also, town!me often will skim over walls andnot respond to them.
Are you using ignoring redtea's posts as proof you're in your town meta?!?! So in other words, if you were scum, you would read their posts but since you're town you just skimmed and forgot about them?

Is that your argument for you being town?
Scum has more of an obligation due to their life being more important. I don't think T3 voting Farren is scummy either, I don't see the point of pushing someone who isn't viable, and it makes sense that
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would push the most viable one otherwise it wouldn't be the most viable. Tbh sometimes I make a read and forget why so I make up a reason that sounds like it could work only to remember later. I do agree that saying I don't do X as scum isn't a good argument though. Saying being bad at defending yourself could potentially fall under fallacy fallacy, so it would probably be better to focus on how they do what they do instead of what they do. The casual language and the short sentences are a good sign due to an unconscious bias when trying to appease someone to use "fancy text." They've already said they haven't made up reads, just "making up or greatly exaggerating reasons." To peruse this line of making up reads is likely misrepresenting what they meant.
In post 1008, flow trap wrote:
In post 1002, Morning Tweet wrote:could i ask why you like or liked T3 perhaps?
Yes, but I forgot :good:

I think they sounded relaxed which is towny
In post 992, flow trap wrote:
In post 986, Morning Tweet wrote:You wanted to heaven T3?
I appearently didn't say T3 was a TR or if I did I can't find it

I kind of implied it here

Spoiler:
In post 763, flow trap wrote:
In post 761, Ich Troje wrote:
In post 756, flow trap wrote:I don't recall you saying you TR enchant, so is there another reason?
vote farren
In post 762, Ich Troje wrote:im intending to switch to t3 regardless b4 deadline. I'm not letting a wagon farren wants get through
Ok, VOTE: Farren
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In post 159, T3 wrote:Actually I don't know why I'm townreading flow trap.
My charm obviously :D

Though, perhaps a sense of TvT banter
So you replied to a few posts, but sure I'll give you that you didn't defend against every. single. one.

And okay, so you're either town that decided T3 is town on like no basis to the point he was your strongest townread, or you're scum that already knew the answer. At the very least, you have to concede one of those things is a lot more intuitive.
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Post Post #1354 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:20 pm

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Ok 1207 and 1154 are follow ups to 1152 and 1008 and 992 aren't defending them against a post just saying I TR them?
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Post Post #1355 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:21 pm

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I am so embarrassed right now

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Post Post #1356 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:24 pm

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D1 hell wagons at their heights (roughly):

Esooa: T3, NSG, Farren
redtea: Farren, Esooa, T3, Ich
Enchant: flow, Ich, T3, Dann, Farren
T3: Enchant, Esooa, Farren
Farren: Ich, flow, Enchant
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Post Post #1357 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:25 pm

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In post 1354, flow trap wrote:Ok 1207 and 1154 are follow ups to 1152 and 1008 and 992 aren't defending them against a post just saying I TR them?
That's my point

those are all of your posts on T3

And he's your most heavenable town and your most vocal read on D2

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Post Post #1358 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:30 pm

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In post 1357, Morning Tweet wrote:
In post 1354, flow trap wrote:Ok 1207 and 1154 are follow ups to 1152 and 1008 and 992 aren't defending them against a post just saying I TR them?
That's my point

those are all of your posts on T3

And he's your most heavenable town and your most vocal read on D2

Lol
Lol

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I'm so bad at communicating :cry:
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Post Post #1359 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:35 pm

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bless you ich for not throwing the game
i thought we win if they chose correctly though i was so confused for a second

sorry to do this at an interesting time but
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Post Post #1360 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:35 pm

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In post 305, flow trap wrote::eek: I don't know what to do if someone uses 2

VOTE: Redtea
In post 306, Esooa wrote:VOTE: red tea
In post 329, Dannflor wrote:VOTE: redtea
In post 338, flow trap wrote:
In post 328, Dannflor wrote:
In post 309, Ich Troje wrote:dannfloor/nsg
this pairing is interesting

ive been nursing a paranoia nsg read since basically her entrance but i think that paranoia was bound to come up at some point this game so im not really giving it any credence until nsg gets a chance to play more

what exactly pinged you about either of our posts?
I like this post
In post 343, flow trap wrote:UNVOTE: Redtea
why the unvote here? ^^^ Redtea hadn't joined and you just expressed good feelings about Dann the most recent wagon joiner

Farren and T3 start a counterwagon on Esooa which you elect to not join as well, so again, why the unvote

NSG votes Esooa

You reiterate that you TR Dann and then vote Ich (?)

Ich and Dann start a wagon on NSG
In post 462, ManateeDude wrote:
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With 9 alive, it takes 5 to send someone to Hell


Esooa (3):
T3, northsidegal, Farren
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Ich Troje, Dannflor
redtea (1):
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In post 465, Farren wrote:UNVOTE: Esooa
VOTE: redtea

And yes, I am aware that I am jumping from the person I was voting for to the person that she's currently voting for.
In post 511, Esooa wrote:VOTE: redtea I dunno where this guy is and I want him back lol
In post 527, T3 wrote:VOTE: redteah
In post 530, Ich Troje wrote:i tried to meta redtea and their towngame has a depth that is not present here but also they've had town games where they literally just half flake and its -_- how do I read this shit.


VOTE: redtea fuck it.

WIM is at an all time low and we need a flip to kickstart this shit b4 apathy sets in

praying for a scum flip

sorry for sending u to hell redtea
^^ Ich thinks this is a hammer genuinely but it isn't. But redtea quite possibly coulda died had you not left the wagon for seemingly no reason earlier. You didnt express a scumread on Ich either, if i recall right you had JUST said
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In post 362, T3 wrote:I might be misremembering this but the last game I played with scum!Koba they had lower post density.
I'm waiting to read DK tbh
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Post Post #1361 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:37 pm

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In post 1360, Morning Tweet wrote:why the unvote here? ^^^ Redtea hadn't joined and you just expressed good feelings about Dann the most recent wagon joiner
See message where I bolded the things and also the latter I pay no mind to so
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Post Post #1362 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:39 pm

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In post 1360, Morning Tweet wrote:You didnt express a scumread on Ich either, if i recall right you had JUST said
I'm confused on the relevance of this statement

Cause I voted them? So? that doesn't mean I SR them; I've already stated I don't like not voting and also
In post 600, flow trap wrote:Yeah, I noticed you didn't have your full town edge, which is why I voted you
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Post Post #1363 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:42 pm

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In post 1348, flow trap wrote:
In post 1343, Morning Tweet wrote:I see a part on day one where redtea
hadn't entered the thread yet...
and they would have been killed if not for an unvote by flow. What a coincidence
(pages 19-23ish)
I bolded the explanations, you're grasping :igmeou:
You thought redtea worthy of a vote.... Esooa + Dannflor join... and you unvote at X-2 because redtea didn't join the game yet.

Why did you vote him in the first place if you had no interest in voting him to pressure for content or whatnot? Like what was your original intention behind it if you're just going to unvote in response to nothing happening
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Post Post #1364 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:44 pm

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In post 1362, flow trap wrote:
In post 1360, Morning Tweet wrote:You didnt express a scumread on Ich either, if i recall right you had JUST said
I'm confused on the relevance of this statement

Cause I voted them? So? that doesn't mean I SR them; I've already stated I don't like not voting and also
In post 600, flow trap wrote:Yeah, I noticed you didn't have your full town edge, which is why I voted you
Okay so if you're not voting your scumreads, then you like moving your vote around to pressure and be active yes? So why would you take your vote off of a slot at X-2 in response to nothing happening at all? Nothing happened with redtea nor Ich and you liked the player who joined the wagon

Help me understand flow!!!!!
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Post Post #1365 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:46 pm

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In post 1363, Morning Tweet wrote:Why did you vote him in the first place if you had no interest in voting him to pressure for content or whatnot? Like what was your original intention behind it if you're just going to unvote in response to nothing happening
The vote count was incorrect at the time of my unvote; they were at e-1
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*It said they were at e-1
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Post Post #1367 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:48 pm

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Even if your votes don't follow much logic, as you claim, I'm still going to go ahead and say they were pretty convenient for Esooa and redtea, and I can just leave it at that then. You voteparked Ich when the heat got onto redtea and you didnt join the growing Esooa wagon when the heat was on her (just kept the votepark). So it's lucky for those two

pedit: Ah I see. That makes a little more sense. Point still stands that your push on Ich is convenient to redtea/esooa though
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Post Post #1368 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:49 pm

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For a change of pace I think Dann's end of the last day was towny, as well as his individual reads he made on Esooa and T3 and redtea (and me). All seemed natural and uninformed
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Post Post #1369 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:50 pm

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Perhaps you'd like to chat about who my partner is/isn't, flow
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Post Post #1370 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:52 pm

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In post 1367, Morning Tweet wrote:Ah I see. That makes a little more sense. Point still stands that your push on Ich is convenient to redtea/esooa though
¯\_(ツ)_/¯ well I mean that's just unfortunate for me
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Post Post #1371 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 1:54 pm

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In post 1369, Morning Tweet wrote:Perhaps you'd like to chat about who my partner is/isn't, flow
I'm bad at partnering and all my reads are like surface level anyways, so maybe when I
stop procrastinating
have time to iso people
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Post Post #1372 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 3:58 pm

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Well not so much who my partners are associative-wise, necessarily, I just mean who you think is scum besides me. Maybe we can agree x3
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Post Post #1373 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:47 pm

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In post 1372, Morning Tweet wrote:Well not so much who my partners are associative-wise, necessarily, I just mean who you think is scum besides me. Maybe we can agree x3
I have a question first

Why do you think DK killed Eso over Farren
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Post Post #1374 (ISO) » Sat Aug 07, 2021 4:51 pm

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If I recall correctly, DK had Esooa as a "maybe scum".

Redtea/me/Dann? all read Farren as town so it's possible we helped convince DK

Additionally DK's reads were changing a little bit as they left, they seemed to scumreaad me at first but then they offered to let me go to heaven b4 them

I also think Esooa looked worse after T3's flip since basically her only hard stance all game was that T3 was definitely scum

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