Micro 759: Tarot uPick III - Game Over!

[nancy]

Would like to see four more votes here please. That's Dunkerdoodles, garaputo (x2) and Yetichain whenever y'all have checked the game next.

Last chance to be on a scum lynch this game NK15.

[Yetichain]

We also have a possible explanation for the no kill.

We roleblocked drealmer N1. Possibilities after the no kill with mine and garaputo's claims are

1. Dunkerdoodles was targeted for the kill and was jailed
2. Dunkerdoodles is scum and was jailed
3. drealmerz7 is scum and was roleblocked

I'm not as dead certain as nancy claims to be, I think there's the possibility of North shooting Dunkers, but I'm certainly not opposed.

VOTE: drealmerz7


-Key

[nancy]

@drealmer please claim or do anything if you're town here because you being like this now as well as the rest of the dayphase just makes me think you're mafia giving up. I was townreading you because I thought that you'd have more self-respect than to play the way you have been here as mafia but I think with the roleblock happening it really eliminates that reasoning and I think it makes a lot of sense that you realized at daystart that you were potentially roleblocked and threw out your claim offer as a way to potentially circumvent that, I can't fathom how you have absolutely zero WIM here when town is an excellent position and aren't doing anything to figure out who mafia is, you spent a lot of time saying a lot more effort should be spent on day 2 but you've not followed through on that and I think the logical conclusion here is that it's because you're mafia.

You were also the only player to defend Varsoon and while I can understand that from you suddenly being paranoid thinking that Varsoon was flipping town with his rageposting, it's not a great look all things considered. You've not addressed any of the concerns I've had about your slot all game, you've not engaged substantively on reads, you've not elaborated on why you felt NK15 was a good lynch yesterday and I don't think it's realistic at this point that you could have a credible reason for being so close-lipped, just basically finding it super super difficult to see anything you're doing being you as town here especially with your last post basically OMGUSing me in a completely thoughtless manner that shows no progression, so if you are somehow town here please do something to that effect.

[nancy]

@garaputo at some point before EoD would love it if you would confirm that you'll jailkeep Yetichain tonight, think that's the only slot that's capable of endgaming here if we mislynch today.

[nancy]

Also I'm not actually serious that I want drealmer majed today in case it wasn't clear that I was kidding there.

[nancy]

@garaputo at some point before EoD would love it if you would confirm that you'll jailkeep Yetichain tonight, think that's the only slot that's capable of endgaming here if we mislynch today.

Meh. This doesn't even clear them since if they're mafia they can just roleblock you.

So we actually need our investigative role (presumably tracker?) and garaputo to target them.

[nancy]

To be clear I think we're pretty much always in 1 of 2 worlds here, first world Yetichain tried to kill Dunkerdoodles thinking that was a hider crumb from NK15, second world drealmerz7 was roleblocked trying to perform the kill. Since no one wants to lynch Yetichain I'm not seeing any other option than to leash the JK + investigative onto their slot and lynch the other world.

So again, drealmer, please respond to my points above because there's under a week left in the dayphase, there's time to talk and I'm by no means locked into my scumread of you.

[fferyllt]

Vote Count 2-7

drealmerz7

(3): nancy, Porkens, Yetichain

Dunkerdoodles

(2): northsidegal, Not Known 15

garaputo

(1): drealmerz7

Yetichain

(1): Dunkerdoodles

Not Voting

(2): garaputo, Woman of Crystals

With 8 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: January 3, Midnight US Eastern Time.

Countdown: (expired on 2018-01-02 21:00:00)

Mod Notes:

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[Porkens]

All aboard

[Porkens]

Ps crumb for post game.

Trbiaofaianffinmktfi.

[nancy]

Excellent, crumb Porkens.

I don't actually want him speedlynched, though.

[nancy]

Excellent, crumb

Yes...

[Dunkerdoodles]

VOTE: dreal

L-1

[garaputo]

Would like to see four more votes here please. That's Dunkerdoodles, garaputo (x2) and Yetichain whenever y'all have checked the game next.

Last chance to be on a scum lynch this game NK15.

I think you'll hvae to wait a few more hours for me. I don't think it's appropriate for me to do a cursory review and just fire 2 votes willy-nilly here. I'd like to preserve the opportunity for a flawless victory.

@garaputo at some point before EoD would love it if you would confirm that you'll jailkeep Yetichain tonight, think that's the only slot that's capable of endgaming here if we mislynch today.

Strong possibility of this, but I'd like to think about what a mislynch means here first.

I'm driving houseguests home today, should be back later tonight to share in depth thoughts and likely vote.

[northsidegal]

garaputo, target two people for jailing tonight.

[nancy]

I agree garaputo I'm not in any rush here and you don't need to vote until we're much closer to deadline, I'd like to give drealmer time to respond and everyone else to give their thoughts on the lynch.

northsidegal he needs to be confirmed targeting only one player so that if he dies that player is confirmed town (except in the case of Yetichain who could potentially be a mafia roleblocker, hence the need for an investigative as well so that it's impossible for both of them to be roleblocked; there's realistically never a third roleblocker in the setup of either alignment so that's the only slot that needs to be targeted by both in order to be cleared). And while my scumread on Yetichain is pretty weak at this point I think that's the only slot that's capable of actually winning this game as mafia and would like to eliminate any possibility of a mafia win here.

[northsidegal]

northsidegal he needs to be confirmed targeting only one player so that if he dies that player is confirmed town (except in the case of Yetichain who could potentially be a mafia roleblocker, hence the need for an investigative as well so that it's impossible for both of them to be roleblocked; there's realistically never a third roleblocker in the setup of either alignment so that's the only slot that needs to be targeted by both in order to be cleared). And while my scumread on Yetichain is pretty weak at this point I think that's the only slot that's capable of actually winning this game as mafia and would like to eliminate any possibility of a mafia win here.

huh? how does him targeting two people (not yeti) not confirm those people as town if he dies, as opposed to just one? also, what's the point in both jailing yeti and investigating her?

[nancy]

Because it's WIFOM as to whether he targeted the right person or not; if either of the people in the jail pool are mafia they're going to be shooting at him 100% of the time and we'd have no way of knowing whether he jailed the right one. Yetichain has claimed roleblocker; roleblocking actions resolve before jailkeeping actions therefore if Yetichain is a mafia roleblocker they can roleblock garaputo, kill garaputo, and be false cleared; tracker/follower targeting them as well means there's no false clear, or if it's a watcher they should watch garaputo for the same effect.

[nancy]

What are your thoughts on the lynch?

[Porkens]

LYNCH
LYNCH
LTNCH

talk about it tomorrow

[Porkens]

happy birthday nancy

[nancy]

Thanks, Porkens.

How likely do you think it is that there will be a tomorrow?

[Porkens]

50%?

[garaputo]

I agree garaputo I'm not in any rush here and you don't need to vote until we're much closer to deadline, I'd like to give drealmer time to respond and everyone else to give their thoughts on the lynch.

northsidegal he needs to be confirmed targeting only one player so that if he dies that player is confirmed town (except in the case of Yetichain who could potentially be a mafia roleblocker, hence the need for an investigative as well so that it's impossible for both of them to be roleblocked; there's realistically never a third roleblocker in the setup of either alignment so that's the only slot that needs to be targeted by both in order to be cleared). And while my scumread on Yetichain is pretty weak at this point I think that's the only slot that's capable of actually winning this game as mafia and would like to eliminate any possibility of a mafia win here.

Alright, I'm in no rush either. I think we can wait to see responses to the roleblock and we don't have to play fast and loose from and advantageous spot here.

[drealmerz7]

oh geez

I'll try and deal with this stupid shit tomorrow

I guess I'll just claim

geez wtf, talk about lameass wagon

the hermit
seeking neighborizer - find a specific significator and we form a hood and gain an ability (not saying which significator or ability, if I even know them)

I believe the roleblock (not that it's necessarily town, at all) because my result on seeking N1 was as if I coudn't perform the seeking action