Open 628: Masons and Mafia | Endgame

[Jeanne11]

I don't know what to do now, so I'll

VOTE: acryon

[Titus]

Go town.

Dead by post 200. Lols.

[lane0168]

What is going on here? Scum have 1 shot left looks like. They are 2 for 3. Not bad scum. Not bad.

VOTE: kirroha

[D3f3nd3r]

Scum can shoot infinite times, technically. Beeboy could have shot all three times for all we know (if I'm reading the Wiki right). Two went through on masons; the third failed and he died as a result.

[acryon]

What did you read as a wifom-y joke? And why did you quote my post directed at Lowell? You think we should ignore the claim? For how long? And I think it's pretty obvious were not going to be trying to sort out who is or isn't masons.

First scum lean here. Didn't like interjection with obvious statement.

Why would you possible think this was a real claim?

I feel like the claim came early enough that it's most likely just a joke. I feel like if it was any later - for example, if it was interjected into the discussion now - it would have more of a meaning. Now there is definitely the chance that it's more strategy than humor, but there's by no means a guarantee of that...and even then there are the different layers and possibilities that Kernel mentioned in #30.

There is a lot of overexplaining going on for something that was very clearly done in jest.

What do you love about it? What is the tactic you love? Claiming?

Do you think it helps town to claim mason or helps scum to know who is mason? Best benefit I see is 1 confirmed town for the masons, for day 1.

Dead tonight.

Worst case scenario is people push him for it, and the mason buddies have to defend it while not giving out that they know too much. Or he's scum, and is pushed by masons. Which reveals masons. Our town block.

So why do you love it?

lane seemed to be under the incorrect impression that mafia has nightkill, something which actual scum would've known from the role PM on this site.

So either he was faking a townslip or it was a genuine one. Unless evidence arises to the contrary I'm inclined to believe it to be genuine for now.

By the way, speaking of which, just a note to observe about the setup. This is different from a typical mafia game in that

lynching is much more beneficial to scum than to town

. Scum only has to lynch 1 Townie in order to win (since they can kill the 4 masons, once they are found, with their daykills). Town has to lynch 4 scum in order to win. Make of that what you will, but it's because of this that in this particular game I'm a lot less inclined to trust people who push wagons too hard, because they could well be scum just trying to get their 1 Townie lynch in order to win the game.

And that's why I'm not pressuring anyone just yet. Which makes me wonder, why are you so against me joke-voting the mod, lane?

I'm also inclined to believe this was a genuine townslip.

And it's always possible for scum to force mason to claim by driving them up to an almost-lynch, then daykilling them after. So I daresay lynching is a really powerful tool for scum in this game.

Isn't it actually optimal play for masons to

not

claim if they are run up? If they claim mason, they will just be daykilled immediately and we still have to lynch someone that day, and especially since this will probably be close to deadline, we will be forced into a rushed lynch, which is good for scum. Ideally we can avoid the masons being run up by natural-looking defense by the fellow masons.

I guess you have a point there regarding the prolonged nature of the slip. Meh, I'll go do another reread when I'm less tired.

Others need to post more. Just arguing between three players is kind of pointless.

^ What I said. I checked the role PMs, but in hindsight with your posts over pages 1-2 I concede that it doesn't look like a fake townslip after all. Maybe I just shouldn't be posting when I'm stressed and pissed off, sorry. Your posts felt like they were deliberately rude (well they might not have been, but I was tired and perceived it so maybe) at the point when I was reading it so I got rather annoyed, and when I read the Role PMs on the wiki I was almost completely convinced that you were lying.

In any case, I don't want to waste any energy on a TvT, so I'm waiting for other people to post more.

Why haven't you unvoted then?

[acryon]

Yikes these scum are good shots.

[vettrock]

What is going on here? Scum have 1 shot left looks like. They are 2 for 3. Not bad scum. Not bad.

VOTE: kirroha

Scum can shoot infinite times, technically. Beeboy could have shot all three times for all we know (if I'm reading the Wiki right). Two went through on masons; the third failed and he died as a result.

Scum can shoot until they hit a townie. Then they fail and die.

[Lowell]

VOTE: kop

Be with me on this, gang. His ISO is of someone paying careful attention but not really wanting to show his cards.

[vettrock]

Official Vote Count

acryon

(1): Jeanne11

Kop

(1): Lowell

kirroha

(1): lane0168

Not Voting

(7): InsidiousLemons, Cobalting, Hershey Kiss, acryon, D3f3nd3r, Kop, kirroha

With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-03-07 02:14:23)

[Lowell]

Also

fos insidious

after rereading 145. Looks like he's trying hard to explain what needs no explanation. What I read is "LOOK HOW TOWN I AM, GUYS!".

Some of these titus-sheep have to be scum.

[acryon]

VOTE: kop

Be with me on this, gang. His ISO is of someone paying careful attention but not really wanting to show his cards.

I'm with you here Lowell.

VOTE: Kop

[Plotinus]

As the sun sets, and the journey continues, there is a sudden flash of steel as the setting sun gleams off of a dagger emerging from the end of a long green sleeve.

Another figure in a green tunic turns quickly, draws a sword and slices off the hand holding the dagger.

Kop falls forward holding the bleeding stump of an arm that once held a dagger, as the other figure tucks their sword away, pulls their hood forward and blends back in with the others.
as Kop lies on the ground bleeding, s/he shout, "The Mafia will stop you! Those are our diamonds! You won't get away with this."

Kop a

Mafia Goon

, died Day 4.

[Plotinus]

Official Vote Count

Not Voting

(9): InsidiousLemons, Cobalting, Hershey Kiss, D3f3nd3r, kirroha, Lowell, acryon, Jeanne11, lane0168

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2016-03-07 11:52:46)

[Jeanne11]

Well, I'll go with next possible suspect, then

VOTE: kirroha

[Jeanne11]

Also,

THIS IS SPARTA.

[lane0168]

This game is awesome lol. I love all the random deaths.

VOTE: kirroha

[acryon]

So Kop is essentially conftown.

[acryon]

So Kop is essentially conftown.

Sorry, I meant Lowell.

[acryon]

Well, I'll go with next possible suspect, then

VOTE: kirroha

Why?

[Lowell]

I am literally the greatest.

Also ditto the above, explain kirroha.

[Lowell]

Also lane, begrudgingly, is town.

[lane0168]

Why begrudgingly?

[Lowell]

Because I hate you.

[Lowell]

nah jk you're all right.

[lane0168]

Lol