Micro 773: Twin Trap - Game Over

[Torn Up]

Flubber had the worst reaction. I don't think RC is scum.

VOTE: Flubber

~ C

I agree with your flubber but I see no reason to townread RC. this is exactly how I expect him to behave as mafia, just push something horribly anti town and pretend it's for outside the game reasons if he can't find reasons within the game to do so.

he is still voting us, cheeky. he didn't even give enough of a fuck to remove his vote on us after you appeared. if that's not indicative of him being scum then IDK what is.

-tor

[RC most awesomest]

I wasn't able to play the last game on MU I signed up for because Zara was indefinitely saying shit about me and the mod team ended up protecting him.
But apparently since that's my fault, this is your fault that you are getting quicklynched. Maybe you should get better friends!

you show your true colours constantly dude.

-tor

I didn't remove my vote because I don't intend to.

[RC most awesomest]

I don't know what alignment you are right now so I don't know if you genuinely believe that I'm scum who feels the need to pursue some sort of vendetta to lynch you.
But when you do end up knowing I'm town leave me the fuck alone.

[Torn Up]

I don't know what alignment you are right now so I don't know if you genuinely believe that I'm scum who feels the need to pursue some sort of vendetta to lynch you.
But when you do end up knowing I'm town leave me the fuck alone.

I think you're scum but I'm sorry for bringing up other stuff, I just got tilted at you of all people saying I was creating a bad environment cause from my experience you don't actually care enough about that stuff.

I was extremely unfair with some comments and I'm sorry about them too. there, I said I'm sorry like 10 times already. if you think I'm scum or you're scum and think this is a good mislynch fine, keep your vote on me it happens it's mafia game. I just hope you don't do it for things that are unrelated with this current game. I'll do the same.

-tor

[Torn Up]

anyway can we have fun now

it may start with us not getting lynched

did anyone notice RC didn't even prod me to hardclaim after putting me on L-1

it's like he doesn't even care about this game at all

probably scum

-tor

[RC most awesomest]

You said sorry and then you followed it up by but I'm right so that made it seem to me like you didn't feel that you had done anything wrong.
I apologize for the personal nature of the vote but I couldn't think of anything else to vote you for and I would have accepted a great deal of retaliation but not for you to blame me for a game where I was clearly the victim.

I'll unvote you but I want you to actually read the game that you called me out for and think about what you should say back to Zara's partner when she tells you that I ruined the game for her, because she personally instigated shit with me with no provocation on my end ignoring what her hydra partner did the entire game.

UNVOTE:

did anyone notice RC didn't even prod me to hardclaim after putting me on L-1

Why would I have prodded you to hardclaim when the point of the vote was to see if you believed that you were hammered?
We're talking two votes here, one that was a short term reaction test that I unvoted and one where I don't actually care about your claim.

[Torn Up]

IDC about reading any games, let's drop that altogether. you're not creating a friendly environment yourself though, so telling that to anyone else is hypocritical.

-tor

[Torn Up]

there is no need for you to put further pressure on me by fake hammering as means to make a read on my slot

it's toranaga and cheeky teeky ffs it's not exactly the hardest read on the planet. just let me work on the game and I'm clear.

-tor

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: Chara

[RC most awesomest]

Call it a personal favor or something: you called me out for creating a toxic environment in that game. I would like you to read the game in question.
Does it not matter to you whether or not you have a fair perspective on something that you obviously feel strongly about?

[RC most awesomest]

And yes I did say that you created a toxic environment but I've repeatedly said that I only said it because I was searching for a reason to attempt to hammer.
And I would be willing to be on the receiving end of a lot of abuse for that but not being blamed for an incident in which I was objectively the victim.

[Torn Up]

I was searching for a reason to attempt to hammer.

Why?

~ C

[RC most awesomest]

Because I thought the reaction would be telling as to your alignment.

[RC most awesomest]

Also because I thought it would be funny, but mostly for alignment indicative reasons.

[RC most awesomest]

Unfortunately the reaction did not end up being at all funny.

[Torn Up]

Because I thought the reaction would be telling as to your alignment.

Really? You think you'd find out more from an obvious derp hammer rather than just pushing our posts? I don't buy that RC.

What are your thoughts on others?

~ C

[RC most awesomest]

I'm not scum and I am in no mood to be interrogated right now, sorry.

[Torn Up]

Fair enough I guess. Hopefully NSG comes to post soon.

~ C

[RC most awesomest]

What do you believe the alternative is? That I actually thought I was hammering and that I didn't check? Or that I faked a hammer for some other reason?

[Kmd4390]

Vote Count

Torn up - 2 - eth0s, flubber
Flubber - 2 - Guiltylion, torn up
Not mafia - 1 - mumble
Rc most awesomest - 1 - hopkirk
Chara - 1 - not mafia

Not Voting: Chara, rc most awesomest

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline is January 29 at 11:00 PM EST

[Torn Up]

What do you believe the alternative is? That I actually thought I was hammering and that I didn't check? Or that I faked a hammer for some other reason?

I don't think about any alternative. I just dont think RC fake hammers for an AI reaction but my meta read could be wrong. I don't think you meant to realistically hammer but you put us in a pretty precarious position for something not really worth it (AI behaviour) and something which I'm pretty sure you could figure out through other measures. Well the first time you L -1'd us anyway. The following revote you said was policy in the heat of the moment.

~ C

[Torn Up]

Yeah I didn't like GL's entrance either, I can't put my finger on it, but it included the fact he didn't vote and it somehow felt awkward.

why is scum!GL more likely to not vote than town!GL?

sometimes it's Friday night and you're not in the mood/mindstate to play mafia so you post lyrics to check in and call it a day

The lyrics plus a vote would've been okay, I guess scum are more likely to hold off voting to prevent closing off useful TRs and to feel out the gamestate before voting to follow the consensus. I know some people don't like to RVS at all though. I can understand your reasoning here and I like the question in your response.

Just out of curiosity, what song is that?

~ C

[Torn Up]

VOTE: Chara

~ C

[RC most awesomest]

I didn't think anyone would quickhammer you and I wasn't intending to leave my vote on you for that long.
As for faking quickhammers and having better ways of doing things, well yes I have better ways of reading your slot and that's called largely ignoring Toranaga because I know how to read you

but at the same time I don't like leaving stones unturned and when there's an opportunity like that one where someone thinks they're getting hammered (supposedly) then I would almost always take it.

Do you actually personally think that I'm scum or are you trying to follow up on Toranaga's scumread of me?

[RC most awesomest]

Like I'm not looking for him to scumclaim, I don't believe in that kind of play happening more than once in a blue moon, I just think whatever reaction he gives will be useful.