Mini 1792: Baccano! Mafia [Game Over]

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, so you're telling me that in the event that dwlee/nos are scum, they've already won?

[Cerberus v666]

Anyways, I suppose ths means that you do indeed need to get nos to hammer alpaca, or convince dwlee/nos/alpaca vote for me, because I'm not going to enable your foolishness.

[Nosferatu]

What's the point of a Cop if there's a GF?
What's the point of a tracker if there's a ninja?
Simply because counters exist does not invalidate the existence of roles, or that mods often use them in specific conjunction with other roles that preclude them.

but you're suggesting a counter to offset a problem, and the counter doesn't fix the problem. If there's a scum strongman to get rid of the IC BP, putting a BP in the game isn't really fixing that. It also doesn't mesh with the subplot of the game: the assassin trying to find the BP. If scum can just kill the BP, that completely destroys a whole alignment, and from florestan's flip, scum knew about you being the BP, but didn't do anything. It's just, why?

[Cerberus v666]

Oh, I almost forgot.

VOTE: Cerberus v666

Dwlee or nos, if you're scum, enjoy your free win.

[Dwlee99]

just HAMMER ALPACA FOR FUCKS SAKE

[Thor665]

Oh, so you're telling me that in the event that dwlee/nos are scum, they've already won?

Yes, I am.

What's the point of a Cop if there's a GF?
What's the point of a tracker if there's a ninja?
Simply because counters exist does not invalidate the existence of roles, or that mods often use them in specific conjunction with other roles that preclude them.

but you're suggesting a counter to offset a problem, and the counter doesn't fix the problem. If there's a scum strongman to get rid of the IC BP, putting a BP in the game isn't really fixing that. It also doesn't mesh with the subplot of the game: the assassin trying to find the BP. If scum can just kill the BP, that completely destroys a whole alignment, and from florestan's flip, scum knew about you being the BP, but didn't do anything. It's just, why?

In a general sense I agree with you.

I'm voting Alpaca, last I checked.
Why aren't you?

[AlpacaAlpaca]

Well at this point I have tried to convince that this is a bad mistake so you can choose to beleive me or not but I think a Cerb lynch is the right way to go for town.

VOTE: Cerberus

[Cerberus v666]

Meh.

VOTE: AlpacaAlpaca

Primarily because I believe that vote goes contrary to everything he's said prior to this point.

[Dwlee99]

scum ??

[Dwlee99]

alpaca were you scum?

[Cerberus v666]

Well, if he wasn't town gets to lose. *shrug*

[AlpacaAlpaca]

rip yeah I was scum, but this being my first game I learned so much and messed up so many times oh man

[AlpacaAlpaca]

Highlight of the game goes to HA for eating Ari and causing me to lose my shit in the middle of class

[AlpacaAlpaca]

Also when Nos said I had claimed Flores' husband and I was like o shit cause I actually am Ladd so I thought I had posted Ladd instead of Luck and freaked out

[Cerberus v666]

Claiming your actual role (which I assume you did) was a bit of a problem for you. The other problem was hopping on my wagon there. If town, since you had just gone off about how they shouldn't just rush to lynching me, voting me didn't make much sense. Neither of us should have wanted the other lynched if we were town and believed rhe other had a good chance at being town, since we'd know it was a guaranteed town loss. The main reason why I argued with Thor so much was just in case it turned out you were town. I wanted there to be at least a tiny bit of doubt in thors mind so I could at least try to get the other person, who I'd know was scum, lynched over me.

[AlpacaAlpaca]

Makes sense, and yeah I claimed my real role which was a huge mistake that I regretted since I didn't consider game balance for if I was town

[Dwlee99]

ay I dun did it
Gg, you actually had me completely fooled until you claimed BP, alpaca. Gj

[AlpacaAlpaca]

Yeah I really should have thought that through a little more, my only concern at the time was matching role to flavour

[Cerberus v666]

Like, I was frustrated enough with Thors stubbornness that I wouldn't have voted you, so just waiting for thor to swap votes to me, amd then hammering, woulda been good enough to buy you one more day at least...and then you could have no killed, to cast shade on dwlee, and also forced town to have 3 people agree to lynch you for you to get killed tomorrow, instead of you always being the default lynch.

Still, gg, the flores thing kinda sucked but I'm fairly certain he would have been lynched anyways, but it depends on what you did.

I still don't think you guys knowing who maiza was by default makes lots of sense. I'd have modified your kill somehow perhaps, where if it was used on maiza you gained an additional kill to use on the next night, or that day perhaps. So not knowing who he was wouldn't have cost you a kill, and it would have been more interesting of an interaction with that minigame, while still making the role of IC significant. Probably woulda had two more uninformed too I guess. 6 uninformed, half of which are not town, maiza, and 6 informed town. Seems like it would add some more to the minigame going on there.

Thanks for the game Jeanne and Kagami, much apprecisted.

[Dwlee99]

yea, thanks for modding. I had fun.
Sucks what happened with the mod error.

[Nahdia]

gg nerdz

[Dwlee99]

I'm rollin' in the town wins

[Cerberus v666]

Okg Nahdia guess what you have a town win now!!!!!!

[Dwlee99]

Also, cerb, I really started to town read you later in the day which is why I was arguing with thor about just straight up lynching you if alpaca flipped town.

[Cerberus v666]

Oh oh oh and guys I loved the lovers vig pair that had to agree on targeting. Super cool..