Open 645: C9++ - Game Over

Ranger · Post Post #1500 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:57 pm

LicketyQuickety wrote:Ranger previously mentioned that they would not be reconsidering their read on RC. This time its you.

...While speaking to RC.
Obviously, when speaking to the person I'm not reconsidering my read on, it's a given I'm not gonna reconsider my read on them. If I had, then I'd have included "even you". But I didn't, because the implication was obvious.

If ranger is relying so heavily on their meta of me they should have 5 times that many games played with me for it to mean shit.

I don't recall stating I was scumreading you off of meta.

You're scum because you're acting like scum. It's that simple.

Ranger · Post Post #1501 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 5:59 pm

Zachstral wrote:Why is that?

Because I actually have experience with dave enough to know he's not scum.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1502 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:06 pm

Ranger wrote:
Zachstral wrote:Why is that?
Because I actually have experience with dave enough to know he's not scum.

Yeah! I totally have that down as a valid reason 100%!

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1503 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:09 pm

What's your case on Umlaut BTW?

Ranger · Post Post #1504 (ISO) » Sun Jul 03, 2016 6:30 pm

Zachstral wrote:What's your case on Umlaut BTW?

Combination of gut + POE, mostly.

texcat · Post Post #1505 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:08 am

In post 1488, Zachstralkita wrote:So yeah but I'm not sure how that exactly constitutes a scumslip.... assuming someone is Town is not necessarily scum-indicative as it's a pain in the ass to treat everyone as neutral in every single statement that you make.

In post 1490, Zachstralkita wrote:I'm sorry but that seems too fucking dumb to be a scumslip, say what you want

Nevermind that some people can read sarcasm very well through text, while others have absolutely no indication for it

I can agree that neither of the slips is, by itself, conclusive. But I do think they add to what I think is a growing body of evidence. When I was reading through LQ's iso I also noticed that he seemed focused on himself. He asked people how they were reading him. Again, not conclusive, but something that I think scum do more than town.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1506 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 3:43 am

texcat wrote:
In post 1488, Zachstralkita wrote:So yeah but I'm not sure how that exactly constitutes a scumslip.... assuming someone is Town is not necessarily scum-indicative as it's a pain in the ass to treat everyone as neutral in every single statement that you make.

In post 1490, Zachstralkita wrote:I'm sorry but that seems too fucking dumb to be a scumslip, say what you want

Nevermind that some people can read sarcasm very well through text, while others have absolutely no indication for it
I can agree that neither of the slips is, by itself, conclusive. But I do think they add to what I think is a growing body of evidence. When I was reading through LQ's iso I also noticed that he seemed focused on himself. He asked people how they were reading him. Again, not conclusive, but something that I think scum do more than town.

ok besides LQ who are your scum reads?

texcat · Post Post #1507 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 4:50 am

Until Titus claimed 1-shot cop, I had her and Ranger in the scum and possible scum columns. While neither Titus nor Ranger are absolutely clear yet, they're certainly not our best lynch.

I have Smith and Umlaut in the town column.

That leaves A Plain Farmer, Bins, RC, Davesaz, listed from scummiest to towniest. I'm really unsure on Davesaz. I seem to remember a game that he had me totally fooled into thinking he was town when he turned out to be scum. RC seems impossible for me to read.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1508 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 5:59 am

Hey! We should pioneer a Plain Farmer lynch!

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1509 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 7:58 am

VOTE: Ranger

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1510 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:04 am

I'm voting Ranger because they refuse to read me as a player.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1511 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:54 am

So you don't give a shit about Titus' claim? LOL

How do you expect to not get lynched when you don't work off of the information given?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1512 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 8:58 am

In post 1511, Zachstralkita wrote:So you don't give a shit about Titus' claim? LOL

How do you expect to not get lynched when you don't work off of the information given?

Ranger could still be Scum. Titus could be lying. Number of things, but Rangers Scum read on me is just stupid. I have reason to believe she is doing it just to spite me.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1513 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:05 am

? Town can do stupid things. Town can also do stupid things to spite people.

What motivation does Titus have for lying and clearing Ranger?

Yes there is an off chance that Ranger is still scum, but I feel like the whole situation bumps her down on the list of priorities at least for today

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1514 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 9:56 am

In post 1513, Zachstralkita wrote:? Town can do stupid things. Town can also do stupid things to spite people.

What motivation does Titus have for lying and clearing Ranger?

Yes there is an off chance that Ranger is still scum, but I feel like the whole situation bumps her down on the list of priorities at least for today

There is no motivation for Ranger to Scum read me like this unless they are Scum.

If Titus is Scum it gives here the perfect reason.. She claimed she was a 1-shot cop so its easy to get away with.

Ranger needs to do something besides baselessly push my lynch. Ranger knows I have a Scummy meta based on the game I played with her when I was Town and she was Scum. She started out pushing me right away knowing that there would be a good shot at me getting lynched knowing I am lynch bait. I said this before, she is not reading the player (me) but instead pushing what looks like an easy lynch.

davesaz · Post Post #1515 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:03 am

I don't think Ranger is the only one scum reading you.

a plain farmer · Post Post #1516 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 10:04 am

VOTE: texcat This is gut.

Lickety, Ranger's not happening today (and she does have legitimate reason to think you're scum). What's your read on texcat?

Titus · Post Post #1517 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:03 am

@LQ, Really, I planned since start of day to claim 1-shot cop as scum? Lmao.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1518 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:08 am

In post 1515, davesaz wrote:I don't think Ranger is the only one scum reading you.

Yes and they are all equally piss poor reasons.

In post 1516, a plain farmer wrote:VOTE: texcat This is gut.

Lickety, Ranger's not happening today (and she does have legitimate reason to think you're scum). What's your read on texcat?

You have played a fairly analysis heavy game up to this point. Why the gut read now?

In post 1517, Titus wrote:@LQ, Really, I planned since start of day to claim 1-shot cop as scum? Lmao.

Why is that out of the question? Do you take me for a fool that you couldn't plan something like that?

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1519 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:10 am

My read on Texcat is that I just don't know - Null. Not seeing the great possibility that Texcat is Scum tbh, but then again they haven't done a whole lot for Town either.

Why are people just going along with Titus in her saying it is between Texcat and myself? What logical basis is there for this?

texcat · Post Post #1520 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 11:51 am

In post 1519, LicketyQuickety wrote:Why are people just going along with Titus in her saying it is between Texcat and myself? What logical basis is there for this?

This I can agree with.

Ranger · Post Post #1521 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:28 pm

LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm voting Ranger because they refuse to read me as a player.

I don't recall saying this.

LicketyQuickety · Post Post #1522 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:30 pm

In post 1521, Ranger wrote:
LicketyQuickety wrote:I'm voting Ranger because they refuse to read me as a player.
I don't recall saying this.

But you are doing it nonetheless.

RadiantCowbells · Post Post #1523 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:32 pm

In post 1517, Titus wrote:@LQ, Really, I planned since start of day to claim 1-shot cop as scum? Lmao.

I'd believe it.

Zachstralkita · Post Post #1524 (ISO) » Mon Jul 04, 2016 12:57 pm

VOTE: a plain farmer