Mini Normal 2102: Mafia à la Mode! (Game Complete)

[Pretentious]

I also don’t understand the “if DDL and you are both town” comments.

The tris wagon came fast, and if you believe Mizzy to be town, than it wasn’t even scum’s decision completely bar the chance of ScumRCE giving the momentum early.

I feel scum were likely just happy letting the day go with one of DDL and I, which is why nothing happened, scum are probably split up and if DDL is town too, then they still needed a claim from DDL. Scum probably felt like they trapped themselves away from each other, come to think of it. Like one was probably on DDL, one was on me, and they didn’t know how to genuinely move from that. This implies ScumBen even more, one on the DDL wagon, so when the Tris wagon started happening, it likely allowed for multiple scum to hop on naturally, and then this day phase they can continue to hide behind pushing either DDL or Myself, which was proven to already happen earlier in this day phase.

The way the wagons happened actually makes it more likely that it was all town “leading wagons” yesterday, which is another reason I found it incredibly scummy that once people started seeing this, RCE decided to show up and completely halt that progression.

[Pretentious]

Still not sure on Pret but one thign i am sure on is that i dont think pret is the best lynch for today. Is it realy the best wagon to give us the most extra info.

On pret 2 conditions . i,e one where he is town and teh other scum

If he is scum then there are his 2 scum buddies we could try and lynch today.


And im currently at the view that either one of the day one wagons was on scum or that the scum simply didnt care who was lynched

No, because I’m gonna flip town, and then you guys got shit. And RCE already stated that everything would be flipped, and you’d essentially have to reset anyways.

He gave himself the out to start over after my lynch.

[Pretentious]

But I do like those Bob posts. Admittedly, i am biased because he said he doesn’t think I’m the best lynch for the day

[Pretentious]

My gut feeling is that that both pret and DRD wagons have one scum on them. Even if maybe one of teh wagosn was on scum.

If scum is just sitting back. Which would explian teh stalled game state then i do think sald has good chacne of being one.

He realy does need to speak up a fair bit ocne his vla is over

Mind meld with me harder. Fuck yeah

[Pretentious]

If scum have 2 of Salad, LUV, Ben, RCE even to an extent based on pushes, then that is scum waiting for stuff to happen and reacting accordingly, which is actually decently likely. Scum likely don’t have more than one person running stuff, if even that.

I liked when Salad changed from me to DDL, though, and I don’t like that Ben is pushing Salad as the secondary.

[Pretentious]

Unless Ben’s tunneling me, and then shading a buddy, which I could see, but even then I’d want to lynch Ben 100 times before lynching Salad.

[Pretentious]

I forgot A50 made a trash push on me. He’s the semi active scum probably, and potentially the most active one.

[Mizzytastic]

Gonna try spam catch up instead of wall, think it might work better with my brain meats the way they are right now.

First thing that stood out - Salad appeasing Pret by with an FoS on Ben when Pret moves there. +Scum salad

[Mizzytastic]

a50 encouraging pre-flip associations as a defense feels bleh

[Mizzytastic]

I didn't like Vex, a50 pulled it back to neutral mostly from a "I don't know how to read this" standpoint, but that post made me feel bad again

[Mizzytastic]

I would be ok with one of a50 or ddl flipping. I've scum read both their slots at some point and they were both difficult to get a wagon going on.

[Mizzytastic]

My read on pret was he is more likely to be making a claim based on knowing there is a Strongman if he is scum then just completely lying, but I already think there are multiple protectives here so it biases me

[Mizzytastic]

I think I can see what Pret is saying about RCE not engaging, but dunno if that's just a how to handle Pret thing, wanna see a response before I pass further judgement.

I like skitters assessment of the wagons. It makes me think about voting a50 more. Of the people who voted both ddl and tris that's the only one I don't know the alignment of.

Has salad answered why he moved off pret at all? That was the wagon that would have gone through without flashwagon so it seems odd he moved off it just on my summary of the case.

[Mizzytastic]

--snip--

I think DDL is town and there is scum in the common votes between DDL and Tris.

This.

[Mizzytastic]

Hmm, wonder if Saladman ever explained why he thinks RC is being manipulative.

What even is 1369? It's all squicky and political

[Mizzytastic]

Back to saladman sentence challenge, feels like Bob should be stronger than lean based on that description. In general it feels a bit like reads and the sentences are disconnected.

[bob3141]

For now i think we need break bit of the dead lock. Everyone not voting shoudl vote for a player.

I can only a reason for town not to cast there votes.

[bob3141]

For now i think we need break bit of the dead lock. Everyone not voting shoudl vote for a player.

I can't see a reason for town not to cast their votes. Unless there scum sitting back waiting for deadline

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[Mizzytastic]

I don't think Pret was really pushing tris. Ahh, it gets cleared up.

I like what Skellen says.

Pret having no reads makes me feel uneasy. I don't know what to make of it

@Bob I intend to vote once caught up. At the moment I'm leaning back towards a50 I think but still got 5 pages to go

[bob3141]

For now i think ill move my vote to salad. Want too see allot more activity from him and im not likign the lack of active scum hunting. So so narrow. Can only see pushs against pret even though there is more than one mafia. cant see any real attempt at him trying to find who he thinks prets partners would be if he beleives pret is scum
VOTE: Salad

[Mizzytastic]

Bob, I'm just repeating myself but the wagon I was on dismantling was pretty drastic in my books. Up until that point I was on a wagon I was happy with, and DDL hadn't really don't anything to change my views (and only started doing that when he began looking away from pret to be honest, he sounds way more town thinking about other people). It was less than 24 hours and if a different wagon didn't happen the only person on the block was someone who I was only willing at that point to vote cos they had caused so much crazy that I never want to be with the in LyLo. I wanted to lynch someone other than someone I was leaning town on, if unconfidently. I moved from a scum read to a scum read. What's weird about that?

That said, I like you pushing me. I was initially unsure of how unwilling you seemed to vote me but this feels town.

[Mizzytastic]

I don't get where Pret's RCE must have known I'd jailkeep him is coming from. And I find all 3 scum being on Pret when tris got wagoned in less than 24 hours kinda hard to stomach.

[Mizzytastic]

Ok, this is a case on RCE I can dig my teeth into more, and Skellen not being scum in this version of Pretworld is one I find more believable. It's come up a few times now so I will say that RCE's comment on tris did make me feel like that was a viable counterwagon when skitter voted Pret, but it was skit being up for it and the (lack) of response her asking if anyone actually liked tris this game got that was the main reason I felt that was the best spot.

[Mizzytastic]

Hmm, then RCE comes in and his defence makes sense. I can't tell if he's just good at sounding town. Pret's made me paranoid.

[Mizzytastic]

My reasons for RCE town were some mindmeld moments, feeling like he was one of the people with the closest thing to an actual case on you D1, and a tone read you've got me reconsidering cos I should have already realised he's too competent for that to work. It feels like there is a bunch of people where my reads on them feel different based on their interactions around Pret and elsewhere and I dunno what to make of it