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[T3]

VOTE: mena

[GrandpaMo]

so reading this thoroughly, you actually have some of same thoughts as me.

honestly, this is what i was waiting from you t3. because yes i do agree i have been blindly tunneling you; and it could just have been the same sitatuion with lukewarm where i tunneled them for a first bit.

but this whole thing could have been focused to set it up to get you condemned. and that is what i was scared about on day 3. HOWEVER, everyone pivoted on to Johnny. And so now I have paranoia on the back of my head, hey do I push this here ( in which i ultimately decided to do in the earlier post where u responed to ) or do i just sit back again another day (which is what i did on day 3).

So I am in a mixed spot about you, like I really want to get you right that you are scum because everything just points to you-- but again this whole thing could have been set up in a way where you look bad.

I have the same exact thoughts on Bingle and Mena.

but i do have some questions if you are willing to answer.

The sudden change was the strange cc. I think what you're saying about the pr vt claiming makes sense, actually. I guess I had some bias because you've been pushing me the entire game.

so then why did you call me scum? or did you just think about it now?

And actually now that I think about it, the fact that you weren't voting Drap D1 is towny. Because at that point if you were scum then you would have voted Drap.

yea i want to make that claim as well, and im like if i was mafia, why would i defend scum so hard here especially considering when i could have gotten towncred-- but i tried to ignore saying that claim just because it can be used as wifom against me.

About the eod vote by me at this point you'll just have to take my word for it that I thought he was null and then reread.

that's one of reasons why i thought u were scum, because of that pivot. do you think i would have been scum if all of a sudden i defend drap then be like oh drap is scum then proceed to vote them?

Also, Dannflor was one of my biggest defenders Day 1. Dannflor then dies. I have no reason to kill Dannflor, it only hurts me.

i actually hate this quote here. as scum you would want to kill the people who townread you. and now you saying that and actually pointing that out --- because i never pointed that out until now, but now you saying that actually makes you look bad.

Bingle's mechtalk was towny but that's it.

i agree with this; this is why i have a STRONG null read on bingle, however im town leaning them for right now since i have a solve.

NM claimed vt, other than that idk but he hammered Drap.

same thing with bingle, but this is more a stronger rtownlean on nm, but there is actually something to scumread them of. if i am believing what bingle says about NM then this would make NM town; however there is a possibility scumpair could be Bingle and NM hence why the game has been hard to read since those two have been backing each other up and everyone just tagged along townreading both -- deep wolf type game as VFP would say:(

Mena didn't do anything because of rl stuff, then comes back and pushes someone who is now confirmed town.

i was thinking the scumpair could be you + mena atp. wait, do you scumread mena?

because thru these reads, you townread me, gypyx, nm. and null read (sorta townlean?) bingle and scumread mena? is that correct?

Gypyx Drap interactions are towny.

[GrandpaMo]

forgot to add that i agree with post 1548^^

[GrandpaMo]

forgot to add that i agree with post 1548^^

regarding drap being towny--

i think you meant gypyx. but in that interaction i thought gypyx was way more scummier.

i let go of gypyx because since i had everyone who was town townreading them.

but when it gets in mylo sitatuions like this or whatever it is .

then im down to put everyone back on null and view them again from another perception

[T3]

I think I would have scumread you for that.
Yeah, those are my reads.

[GrandpaMo]

I think I would have scumread you for that.
Yeah, those are my reads.

what do you think bout nm + bingle?

[GrandpaMo]

im not used to this t3; im too privileged for u

[T3]

I think I would have scumread you for that.
Yeah, those are my reads.

what do you think bout nm + bingle?

It's definitely a viable scumteam. Bingle was reallyonly town for mechtalk, then there was Bingle's hammer on johnny. The real question is does scum NM do this much effort.

[lendunistus]

Open 810 Official Vote Count - 4.1

PookyTheMagicalBear

(1): Menalque

Menalque

(1): T3

T3

(1): GrandpaMo

GrandpaMo

(1): Not_Mafia

Not Voting

(3): PookyTheMagicalBear, Gypyx, Bingle

With 7 alive, it takes 4 to make someone drink energy core liquid.

Deadline

: (expired on 2021-06-01 15:00:00)

[GrandpaMo]

I think I would have scumread you for that.
Yeah, those are my reads.

what do you think bout nm + bingle?

It's definitely a viable scumteam. Bingle was reallyonly town for mechtalk, then there was Bingle's hammer on johnny. The real question is does scum NM do this much effort.

i believed bingle's talk on how nm is town because of the effort they gave.

what effort? im confused

and i think @bingle you never answered this question, idk if u missed it or ur not here.

but can u explain specifically wym

[GrandpaMo]

I think I would have scumread you for that.
Yeah, those are my reads.

what do you think bout nm + bingle?

It's definitely a viable scumteam. Bingle was reallyonly town for mechtalk, then there was Bingle's hammer on johnny. The real question is does scum NM do this much effort.

i believed bingle's talk on how nm is town because of the effort they gave.

what effort? im confused

and i think @bingle you never answered this question, idk if u missed it or ur not here.

but can u explain specifically wym

i meant to say "but looking back at it, and truly analyzing what bingle said, what effort...***

[Bingle]

You think NM put effort?

On a scale adjusted for meta, NM is unironically the highest effort slot in the game and effort is actually town indicative for him ime.

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Just get rid of the grandpa

I have no idea how to distinguish between Pooky town rage and Pooky scum flail

im literally the conftown role in the setup bro

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

The real question is does scum NM do this much effort.

NM is at IC levels of effort

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

im just waiting for mena to find the inner wolf inside him to come at me with a cc and really big balls it

[GrandpaMo]

You think NM put effort?

On a scale adjusted for meta, NM is unironically the highest effort slot in the game and effort is actually town indicative for him ime.

still dont get what this means. it makes no sense. you can't compare effort to everyone in the game to just to show how "towny" he is. everyone has their own playstyle of effort. see like you could be scum putting in this effort. i would argue that at this point lukewarm has put in more effort than nm. you would probably dissent and argue that you were comparing to NM's meta >>> but then you saying "highest effort slot in the game" contradicts that. do you understand? can you help me make me understand unless ur spitting out weird fake bs.

The real question is does scum NM do this much effort.

NM is at IC levels of effort

what does ic mean

[Bingle]

IC is innocent child = confirmed town.

I'm also not comparing N_M to anyone in this game. I'm comparing Not Mafia to Not Mafia in other games. He's town, and I'd bet the game on it. And at least one other town player has the experience to be able to say that.

Anyone who says N_M could be scum here either has never played with N_M or is themselves scum.

[GrandpaMo]

IC is innocent child = confirmed town.

I'm also not comparing N_M to anyone in this game. I'm comparing Not Mafia to Not Mafia in other games. He's town, and I'd bet the game on it. And at least one other town player has the experience to be able to say that.

Anyone who says N_M could be scum here either has never played with N_M or is themselves scum.

well jeez i just wanted to know what u mean. u still kinda didnt answer my question; it leads me to ask, then why say that in the first place yk? like if you say you aren't comparing to meta when you clearly said "to meta" that you know he is town because (it implies) that this how he plays in other games.

forget NM's allignment here in the question.

i just want to know what you are saying because now you are saying a completely different thing than what you had at first? unless i misunderstood.

[Bingle]

Adjusting N_M's amount of effort this game to the amount of effort N_M usually puts into games, he has comparatively put more effort into the game than any two other slots combined. This is not at all a joke. Remember, Mena wanted to PL him and asked if he was going to actually play this game when he repped in.

[Menalque]

*sigh*

VOTE: mena

Release me from this mortal coil

Best guess? T3 + NM but honestly I’m not super sure

My exceedingly lazy logic is:

Pooky clear

Grandpamo I’m just effort clearing basically

Gypyx something something D1 stuff seemed like he wasn’t scum so let’s just stick with that but the way he’s dropped off the face of the earth is ~worrying~

Bingle could easily be scum and is where I think I’m most likely wrong

T3 seems like obvscum at this point and if he and I are both town I think we’re doomed anyway

NM I’m thinking is scum for the way that he’s been targeting people who want T3 like with his vote on grandpa today, reminds me of what he did in PyP when I was calling him scum and trying to get him limmed and his response was to just naked vote the skitt/me hydra day after day

[Menalque]

Meh actually

VOTE: bingle

Is probably the right thing to do

[GrandpaMo]

Adjusting N_M's amount of effort this game to the amount of effort N_M usually puts into games, he has comparatively put more effort into the game than any two other slots combined. This is not at all a joke. Remember, Mena wanted to PL him and asked if he was going to actually play this game when he repped in.

1st what is ur definition of effort, because we have 2 different defintions here

2nd; again, it looks like u are comparing him to from your past perception of NM (usually from past games) so why r u saying u weren't?

[Menalque]

My logic is that bingle + NM is also very viable here and if by some miracle T3 is town and I don’t get misyeeted today this might be the route to a win

Alternatively if T3!scum I reckon I have better odds of beating him in 3p lylo than I do NM or bingle, whichever is his partner

[GrandpaMo]

im just waiting for mena to find the inner wolf inside him to come at me with a cc and really big balls it

*sigh*

VOTE: mena

Release me from this mortal coil

Best guess? T3 + NM but honestly I’m not super sure

My exceedingly lazy logic is:

Pooky clear

Grandpamo I’m just effort clearing basically

Gypyx something something D1 stuff seemed like he wasn’t scum so let’s just stick with that but the way he’s dropped off the face of the earth is ~worrying~

Bingle could easily be scum and is where I think I’m most likely wrong

T3 seems like obvscum at this point and if he and I are both town I think we’re doomed anyway

NM I’m thinking is scum for the way that he’s been targeting people who want T3 like with his vote on grandpa today, reminds me of what he did in PyP when I was calling him scum and trying to get him limmed and his response was to just naked vote the skitt/me hydra day after day

mena doesn't cc -- and finds t3 and bingle as scum and probably NM as an associate read ( u can correct me if im wrong mena; im just assuming that since u voted bingle) >> how do you feel now?

[GrandpaMo]

My logic is that bingle + NM is also very viable here and if by some miracle T3 is town and I don’t get misyeeted today this might be the route to a win

Alternatively if T3!scum I reckon I have better odds of beating him in 3p lylo than I do NM or bingle, whichever is his partner

honestly im stuck. everyoen is just at everyone.

i paired you + t3.

the fact that you aren't voting t3; concerns me.

you could possilby have t3 in ur scumread, just to get towncred if we do end up bwing t3