Nero wrote:
Calls Mini slightly scummy for finding Rack scummy but she finds Rack scummy and later joined the Rack wagon herself. Cognitive dissonance and possible buddy distancing given that she didn't call anyoneone else scummy only Mini.
In post 133, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Librarian has some good posts about Rack. Then again, Rack is a incredibly easy target and anyone can make the blanket statement about Rack's questions. They're terrible. Follow this with Rack not substatiating his claim about me, and he's looking really bad. This isn't to say that I think Librarian is scummy for liking Rack as scum,
I just don't think he's incredibly town for it.
And I don't think any conjectures can be made about Scooby's confirm post. It's literally completely null until Scooby posts some content.
So, yeah Librarian is town but not as town as everyone seems to think. Probably a slight town lean, just for sincerity in posts.
I really don't get any town vibes from calling some one "not incredibly townie" and "not as town as everyone thinks" AND THEN joining that same wagon.
Also since we have two kills and [most likely] two mafia factions this might be a slip. If she was scum and knew there were two factions she could use that to justify voting for a scum suspect while calling someone else slightly scummy (that's how I interpret it).
Nero wrote:Believes that Rack town told but ignores it since he did something scummy. Town tell + Scum tell=null tell not town tell + scum tell=scum tell
LLD wrote:
RedFF- I don't know what the problem with forcing a hydra to claim their heads is.
I actually found it to be a town tell.
The only reason I'm not doing it, is because at this moment I consider my vote on them and if they refuse to answer my question again, I'll be lynching them day 1. And then it won't matter who their heads are.
Says she thinks its a towntell that Rack didn't want to reveal thier heads but thinks its a scum tell that he dodged questions. I don't see how one outwieghs the other.
Nero wrote:Says its anti-town to explain town reads despite explaining some town reads.
In post 133, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Ninja strikes me as a pure hearted townie of goodness.
KK seems logical town, but I have a real... twinge about KK that I need to check up on. Nothing too serious, I just gotta go read a Metropolis game again. God help my soul. If everything checks out, then KK should be a pretty good town here.
Librarian has some good posts about Rack. Then again, Rack is a incredibly easy target and anyone can make the blanket statement about Rack's questions. They're terrible. Follow this with Rack not substatiating his claim about me, and he's looking really bad. This isn't to say that I think Librarian is scummy for liking Rack as scum, I just don't think he's incredibly town for it. And I don't think any conjectures can be made about Scooby's confirm post. It's literally completely null until Scooby posts some content. So, yeah Librarian is town but not as town as everyone seems to think. Probably a slight town lean, just for sincerity in posts.
In post 378, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:JasonT is town. I've got a dead read on him from the last few games I've played with him. That's as town as Jason gets.
I like how Deas Veil is playing. It's a little cautious, but in this case his caution appears to be town oriented rather than scum.
might be more but these look like her explaning town reads to me.
Nero wrote:
Flips on Fire when Fire didn't post between her posts. Fence sitting, made up read.
In post 387, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 386, redFF wrote:I just don't see what is setting of so many alarms in rack's posting.
LLD, I noticed you haven't said a thing about firestarted all game, what do you think of that wagon?
I do agree that the KK wagon isn't great.
There's a Firestarter wagon? I know a few people were displeased with his opening post, but I didn't see a lot wrong with it.
It was a little weak but not scummy IMO.
In post 450, Lady Lambdadelta wrote: In post 448, mastin2 wrote:8 voters, 2 former-voters, 3 interested players, 13 to lynch.
Rack's been pseudolynched already, even without the above players' opinions. Look at the names involved.
[Benmage, The Mini-Librarian, drmyshotgun, Firestarter, Kublai Khan, Pine, Lady Lambdadelta, Candy Corn Vampire], {NihilisticNinja, Psyche}, (mastin2, Maxous, DV).
[Voting]{Voted}(Interested).
Tell me, LLD, does this look like a town-driven wagon to you?
Um, with the exception of Pine and maybe CCV and
Firestarter
, I believe most players on this wagon to be town.
Ninja is town. Psyche is null-town for me right now.
So I mean, it looks pretty town to me.
She's now explained that she went back and reread and found that his [first] post was scummy afterall. Maybe she's being truthful. Maybe she's scum backtracking, idk.
Nero wrote:Heavily buddies AH in 502. and guess who wound up dead?
You yourself said this was "inherently scummy". I do agree that doesn't mean she killed him but its extremely suspiocios to me.
Nero wrote:
In post 1058, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:I don't know about this Nero wagon. Like I said, I can't tell if his terrible posting is scum or just a genuine dislike for me and based off policy.
I'll go look back through his ISO and interactions with people.
I agree he's just voting me to vote me, but there's a potential it might not be scum.
This is
NOT
a townie response. "Meh, I'm being voted b/c they dislike me. OH WOE IS ME!!!" Is scum
ATEing
and waving the vote off.
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Both yours and LLD's "ZOMG, NERO IZ VOTING PEOPLE B/C HE DOESN'T LIKE THEM!!!" just seems so
ATE
and vote discrediting to me. I mean sure, I could see some issue were people likely think I'm scum (I "scumslip" all the time as town; see mafia om the gulf coast) but I'm not
THAT
bad. While I don't expect you or anyone to believe me (and I'm pretty sure no one will) but I'd
NEVER EVER...EVER
vote someone just b/c I dislike them. That would be against a town wincon/breaking a rule.
As it stands, there are about 3 or 4 people on this site that I think are a P.O.S., none are in this game. Though I will admit that I dislike GI but my vote had nothing to do with it. (I already disliked the slot and his opening that Rack and shotty are both scummy didn't seem to town to me.)
[quote="Nero"
Also I found this fairly interesting.
In post 131, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:
Quite honestly, I make a dozen or more such connections on day 1.
I don't post any of them because in my mind none of them have any relevance until some people die and we have some absolutes to work with.
What makes you so cofident that you'll live to tell? I understand its past day 1 now but you could have died. You could die tonight, the next night etc. I don't see why pesudo-town is willing to with hold information/speculation.
In post 132, Lady Lambdadelta wrote:EBWOP: As such, I find it a LITTLE bit suspicious that people try and do that, because there is scum motivation to state these kinds of reads. (See: Chaining Lynches)
but there's also town motivation to do so but you refuse to do so in fear of comming across scummy. Duly Noted.[/quote]
I can see where people might disagree with this one and while I've head this "town should limit the number of conspiracy theories etc. until there's "proof"." But I don't really see the harm. Sure someone might call you an idiot but I don't see how sitting around and masturbating until there's "proof" is UBER AWESOME PROTOWN!!! Post what you believe, what you feel, what you think. Maybe you're right, maybe you're wrong but either way scum will react and it furthers the game along.
Specifically, LLD (and anyone really} doesn't know when she'll die (with a few exceptions, obviously) so IMHO its anti-town to withold thoughts on the game.
