Mini Normal 1989: A Perfectly Normal Day -- Game Over

[Joey_]

2 posts is enough for nero to be in his obvious town self

[Chumba]

can anyone remember why havo thinks I am scum? Has havo even make a case on me? If not a case has he even given reasons why I am scum? I tried looking through his iso and don't really see anything.

I at least have given reasons and said them over and over again. You can choose to believe them or not to believe them but I have put them out there. Why hasn't havo?

for those voting me, if you are town shouldn't you at least try and figure out why he thinks I am scum?

[Jodaxq]

I also felt like Havo was town from it because of the way profii acted around Havo's bandwagon. Profii's vote on Havo and his "no need for further scumhunting" post really made me think profii was scum and Havo was a mislynch target for him.

this part is kinda dumb b/c he's dead confirmed town now. Like, I get that you felt this way about it THEN but there's not really a point in still believing in this and if you don't then I'm not sure why you are adding it to your response.

"Remind me of your thoughts" sounds like you wanted to know how I felt then. I do not still believe this. Havo looks less town because of profii's flip, but I still find Chumba scummier, mainly due to his softclaiming of knowledge without wanting to come out with it outright.

[Chumba]

but I still find Chumba scummier, mainly due to his softclaiming of knowledge without wanting to come out with it outright.

that's a stupid reason to find me scummy. It's a stupid reason to want to lynch somebody.

This is why I seriously doubt you are town and why I think you look like his scum buddy. You have to look at each person's play overall. Havo is resorting to adhom attacks , he has said that I am hurting town (which can't be possible if I am scum), and he hasn't one given reasons on why he thinks I am scum (not that I can find anyway, can you? if yes, please link it for me)

[Chumba]

If havo legitimately scum read me, do you think he would make this post? If I am scum, how can I be hurting town?

So you’d rather have town lynch a self proclaimed townie, than let a replacement come in and undo your death tunnel and actually help town?

Sorry, I wasn’t gonna address you again, but you just continue to try and hurt this town. It’s ridiculous.
Replace out and let someone rational play your role.

also

Twice Havo says I am better than this but then there is the post in the middle. Anyone who has played with me or my alt know that I am not a better player than how I am playing here. Everyone who has ever played with me knows I am a death tunneler and while I know I am not wrong 90% of the time, I do concede I am wrong a lot. Havo trying to imply he knows I am a better player is just a lie.

You’re tunneling

Why yes I am.

You’re a better player than this. That’s why I think you’re scum.

@Chumba

EVERYONE KNOWS WHAT YOUR TUNNELING GARBAGE LEADS TOO!!!!!!!!!

WE HAVE ALL SEEN IT BEFORE AND ITS WRONG 90% OF THE TIME!!!!!!!!

100% OF THE TIME ON DAY 1.

You’re a much better player than what you have shown here.

Havo knows I am town, but he doesn't like the fact that I am scum reading him so he just wants me gone either by lynch or by replacement.

He also throws digs at town for being apathetic and then throws jabs at Nero by saying that if he were town he'd have found scum by now.

havo isn't relying on any scum hunting. He basically OMGUSd ethos and OMGUSd me and now he is OMGUSING Nero.

I really wish town would have listened day 1 and lynched one of us day 1, but they didn't so you have to do it today.

I feel like i have given the most evidence as to why havo is scum. I feel like havo has provided no reasons for why I am scum.

idk what else I can do or say at this point to get people to listen to me but havo is the right lynch.

[insanity018]

Votecount 3.4

Havo

(3): Chumba, Chickadee, Nero Cain

osuka

(2): osuka, Jodaxq

Chumba

(2): Havo, schadd_

Not Voting

(2): Joey_, HeWhoSwims

With 9 alive, it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline

: (expired on 2018-03-03 10:40:00)

osuka is V/LA until February 20.

[Havo]

Remember this

Nero/Chick/Chumba

[Chumba]

What’s the case for each of those 3? You can summarize. i mean besides the fact all 3 of us are voting you.

[Joey_]

Havo's scum pool is about exactly the opposite of my reads from skimming the last few pages

[Chumba]

Can you share some scum reads and reasons?

[HeWhoSwims]

Chumba, there is literally one question everyone seems to want the answer to, and please for fucks sake just answer it;

DO YOU HAVE LEGITIMATE, INCRIMINATING GAME INTELLIGENCE?

Your further reads e.g. scum on Joda are literally based on nothing (or it seems so) but Havo being scum. Which might not even be the case unless you have evidence. If anything you're being the scummier one.

Havo, those scum reads could do with some explanations (mainly the first two). Don't see Nero scum right now and idk what to really think of Chick right now except I share her sentiments about where this game is headed :/

[Havo]

I’ll post my reasons when I get home to my lap top.

[Havo]

For all the townies bitching abwhere this game is headed. Or where it’s at.

I say this.......

Change the narrative. You can easily change this. Start playing the game.
We are at this point because the Tunnel has simply filled the void of the rest of town NOT PLAYING.

Post, scumhunt, ask questions, apply pressure.

Hell its not that hard.

[Chumba]

DO YOU HAVE LEGITIMATE, INCRIMINATING GAME INTELLIGENCE?

Yes and I’ve already shared it with everyone yet nobody is listening to me.

Havo has intentionally manipulated ethos posts
Havo has intentionally lied about me and my meta.

Those are legitimate. Those are incriminating.

For all the townies bitching abwhere this game is headed. Or where it’s at.

I say this.......

Change the narrative. You can easily change this. Start playing the game.
We are at this point because the Tunnel has simply filled the void of the rest of town NOT PLAYING.

Post, scumhunt, ask questions, apply pressure.

Hell its not that hard.

Then why aren’t you doing this? You are telling people to do things you aren’t willing to do yourself.

I expected better for your first scum game on this site.

[HeWhoSwims]

Those are not investigation results which you softcrumbed earlier.

If you're town and don't want to be lynched, fess up and tell us whether you have a guilty investigation on Havo y/n. It is IMPOSSIBLE to be 100% sure if you don't have a cop/neapo/gunsmith/whatever result on him that screams HEY YALL HAVO IS REALLY ACTUALLY SCUM.

I don't feel there's much to play about now if this is taking up most of the time no? Osuka's self vote is wacky but idk what to think of it and honestly can I do anything else right now? Pressure my ass, it's clearly not helping to resolve this shit at all.

Sorry for my language but

gah

[Chumba]

I am town and don’t give a shit if I’m Lynched or not. Town didn’t want to lynch obv scum day 1 and they didn’t want to do it day 2 either. We are on the right track day 3 but if it doesn’t happen I’ll be happy to be done with this game.

Don’t worry about if I crumbed a result or didn’t crumb a result. If you are town rely on your own fucking scum hunting abilities and decide who’s scum or not.

And you are wrong, It’s possible to know somebody is scum without actually having a guilty on them. I’ve done it before.

[HeWhoSwims]

The thing about voting Chumba (or Havo) is that if they flip town you essentially have about just nothing because town can be stupid and flipping one as town doesn't necessarily make the other one scum :/ I lean towards voting chumba at this point. He's being the scummier between those 2 imo, should probably read back though.

[Chumba]

How am I scummier? I have given reasons. I’m asking people to go back and reread.

Havo hasn’t given reasons for me this entire game (not that I can find anyway)

He just sits and screams I’m scum without backing it up. He mentions how I’m a shity player in other games which is irrelevant to this one.

Havo blatantly misrepped ethos. Havo ignored ethos explanations.

Havo said the 1v1 between us happened because I “attacked” him. I didn’t attack him. I called him out for misrepping ethos.

Havo has twice lied and said I’m better than the way I’m playing. That’s not true at all. This is how I play and havo admitted he knows that.

Now his entire scumpool just happens to be the people voting him? Havo had a town read on chick early on, even tried to get her to hammer profli and suddenly she’s a scum read?

Let’s also not ignore the multiple posts he’s made that implies he knows I’m town who’s just playing bad or ruining the game.

Even now havo is telling people to do things he hasn’t done himself.

All signs point to havo scum. I’m town as fuck.

Don’t agree then vote me and get me out of this game so when we lose I can at least say I tried and nobody listened to me.

[Chumba]

should probably read back though.

That’s what I’ve been asking people to do...

Nobody has linkes me to havo’s “case” on me. If you are saying I’m scummier, first find his case and tell me what you agree with. Second, put into words what makes me scummier than him


Thank you

[Joey_]

Scum is hws + havo + 1/2 of joda/osuka, will pursue reading the thread

[Joey_]

Chumba is extremely obvious town
Nero is atrocious as scum and is a pain in the ass as town as shown in this game
Chick is a town gut town read that is weak but doubt is wrong

[Joey_]

Shadd's town too
Havo and Hws kinda team told by avoidance d1-d2 with the all town wagon imo on hws, havo just ignored hws and tried to CW is with a t vote onto ethos

[Joey_]

Votecount 1.2

HeWhoSwims

(5): sheepsaysmeep, Nero Cain, Chumba, Tchill13, Not Known 15

sheepsaysmeep

(2): Jodaxq, eth0s

schadd_

(1): profii

eth0s

(1): Havo

Chickadee

(1): osuka

Havo

(1): HeWhoSwims

Not Voting

(2): Chickadee, schadd_

With 13 alive, it takes 7 to lynch.

Look at this first vote count, its pretty funny how HWS voted his partner because he expected to be fliped and thus, would give a non-team tell because "havo is the only slot hws pushed".
Also HWS is an all town wagon

[Joey_]

Osuka non-team told with havo and joda is scummy

my 3/3 is hws/joda/havo

[Joey_]

VOTE: havo <- voting for the most voted scumread in my pool, im down to lynch any of those three atm