Elemental Mafia- Game Over!

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1575 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 1:58 pm

Why do you guys think Erg0 is not scum?

Muerrto · Post Post #1576 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 1:58 pm

Shrug I'm all for Cave too I meant if Xtomx is the cop which I don't expect but is possible.

Muerrto · Post Post #1577 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 1:59 pm

Ergo is a recruit, not a recruiter. He's minor scum, not the town's concern atm.

Macavenger · Post Post #1578 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:00 pm

DrippingGoofball wrote:Why do you guys think Erg0 is not scum?

Erg0's more likely to be a recruit. Rather go for a possible recruiter.

@Muerrto right, but I actually know I'm a jailkeeper, so I'm more confident than you can be taht Xtoxm will come up CL.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1579 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:00 pm

Macavenger wrote:
Vote: Cavebear

Since I actually do know I'm a jailkeeper, this makes me extremely confident in which way the lynch scene is going to go, and I'm not worried about having to lynch DGB.

What's the deal with Cavebear?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1580 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:01 pm

Macavenger wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:Why do you guys think Erg0 is not scum?
Erg0's more likely to be a recruit. Rather go for a possible recruiter.

What is the evidence?

armlx · Post Post #1581 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:07 pm

DrippingGoofball wrote:
Macavenger wrote:
DrippingGoofball wrote:Why do you guys think Erg0 is not scum?
Erg0's more likely to be a recruit. Rather go for a possible recruiter.
What is the evidence?

Another CL wouldn't protect xtoxm like that. A recruit would.

Muerrto · Post Post #1582 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:12 pm

Ergo and Farside were 'cleared' by Xtomx so we're assuming they were recruited by him.

Cavebear's claim was quite...interesting. But his actions after the claim made me more and more convinced he's cult, maybe not a recruiter but a good chance.

Pooky and DR are my next choices.

armlx · Post Post #1583 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:14 pm

Cavebear is obv lying. Just an issue of leader vs. recruit, but I would think a recruit would use their original role as a claim.

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1584 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:17 pm

armlx wrote:Another CL wouldn't protect xtoxm like that. A recruit would.

I see. What of the possibility that he might be the CL for the other temp cult? He'd want to see me dead instead of Xtomx too, no?

DrippingGoofball · Post Post #1585 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:18 pm

Muerrto wrote:Pooky and DR are my next choices.

Why?

armlx · Post Post #1586 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:19 pm

DrippingGoofball wrote:
armlx wrote:Another CL wouldn't protect xtoxm like that. A recruit would.
I see. What of the possibility that he might be the CL for the other temp cult? He'd want to see me dead instead of Xtomx too, no?

Then his actions would be the exact same as any town player making the decision. I also have felt Erg0 has been acting pro-town all game.

Muerrto · Post Post #1587 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:23 pm

Well Pooky was Mizzy and neither played like town. Mizzy questioned being town as good and Pooky has lurked consistently all game.

DR was Roland who lurked but popped in twice.

But mainly because everyone else has some type of claim or semi-claim or town feel that they're all that's left. See the list a few pages back of the planned lynches for today.

If Xtomx is cult, you're confirmed, Mac's confirmed, Kison is already confirmed, we're shrinking the possible cult left.

Andy's somewhat confirmed, Everyone who's not cult has been quite sure me and Armlx are town etc. and your investigation of Armlx at least half helps that since you're confirmed etc.

Muerrto · Post Post #1588 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:24 pm

In fact, now that I think of it, DR, Pooky, and Cave are really the only ones left that

could

be recruiters unless we disbelieve Elvis, Andy etc.

armlx · Post Post #1589 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:27 pm

Muerrto wrote:In fact, now that I think of it, DR, Pooky, and Cave are really the only ones left that
could
be recruiters unless we disbelieve Elvis, Andy etc.

I thought that was determined about 10 pages ago, +/- xtoxm and DGB.

Muerrto · Post Post #1590 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:31 pm

It was, I just hadn't realised we've got 2 recruiters left(assuming Xtomx is one) and 3 candidates. We've actually done quite well today.

Also, DGB has decided to rejoin us so I was recapping. If he's confirmed town I'd like him to be informed lol

Muerrto · Post Post #1591 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:32 pm

armlx · Post Post #1592 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:33 pm

You sarnathed me on the gender thing. As for doing well today, we better after our record yesterday.

Muerrto · Post Post #1593 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:34 pm

Well once we killed half the town, finding the cults were easy. It's like Iraq...only funny because it's not real.

armlx · Post Post #1594 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:36 pm

Muerrto wrote:Well once we killed half the town, finding the cults were easy. It's like Iraq...only funny because it's not real.

Sig'ed

Macavenger · Post Post #1595 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:38 pm

Kison is not confirmed. I highly doubt he's a recruiter at this point - fake claiming watcher and just using 1 breadcrumb to line up your info would take some pretty big balls as a CL (my thinking in saying we could psuedo test him with an mneme lynch was if mneme came up recruit, bang), but I could see him being mneme's recruit, possibly. Regardless, he's a bad lynch for today.

Don't entirely rule out Erg0/Farside as recruiters. They're far more likely to be Xtoxm recruits, but there's no rule that says he was successful both nights, and he has to come up with faked cop results either way. Still probably bad lynches today.

armlx · Post Post #1596 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:40 pm

Macavenger's post is pretty much right.

Muerrto · Post Post #1597 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:42 pm

Um...Kison set up the kill of Nmeme by saying he saw Adel go to his house night 0. He bussed his recruiter?? Not likely. And since Adel DID go to Nmeme and that was confirmed because of his death, I'd say that pretty much confirms his role about as much as it can be confirmed.

Is he recruitable? Not sure, we'll kill him tomorrow if need be.

As for Ergo/Farside? Why'd Xtomx pick them? Why'd they both defend him? Not likely again. I'd say it's pretty clear they're his lackeys.

I understand playing devil's advocate but these are pretty cut and dry.

Also, Ergo dissappeared since Xtomx's death...

Macavenger · Post Post #1598 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:43 pm

Something I posted 8 pages back that seems to have gotten lost in the mneme death that I'd like to see a bit of comment on:

Andy/Muerrto/armlx are only psuedo-confirmed through Andy's results and their own interactions with each other. They could all be cult together with Muerrto or Andy as the recruiter. I find this highly unlikely, especially given the blowup over Andy's claim yesterday with Muerrto nearly charging him to a lynch, but it's worth considering if we totally run out of options.

Is it worth forcing Andy to target someone like myself or
Xtoxm
DGB tonight in order to confirm him, or more valuable to just let him track someone random and see what he turns up?

Again, not saying we should go after any of them today, or even until we've tried other alternatives like Erg0/Farside, but it's worth thinking about a little bit. Especially interested in people's thoughts on the Andy targetting.

Muerrto · Post Post #1599 (ISO) » Sun May 18, 2008 2:45 pm

I think you guys are feeding into paranoia and 'what if' too much. Since Xtomx's death, Ergo's been AWOL whereas before it he was posting alot. He saw his chance to win the game die and gave up. Period. If he actually thought Xtomx was a cop he would've stayed and discussed ramifications etc.