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Post Post #1625 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:13 am

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In post 1620, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, have you solved game as you said you would in Havo?
Yes I have.

Texcat and Skygazer are the remaining scum.

I voted Tex because I didn’t want to get into a 1v1 with Sky right now.
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Post Post #1626 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:56 am

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In post 1610, Skygazer wrote:tw im p sure ur town here believe it or not
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Post Post #1627 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:57 am

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In post 1618, Havo wrote:VOTE: texcat

The squeeze is on.
is voted votes town lynchbait
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Post Post #1628 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 8:59 am

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In post 1625, Havo wrote:
In post 1620, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, have you solved game as you said you would in Havo?
Yes I have.

Texcat and Skygazer are the remaining scum.

I voted Tex because I didn’t want to get into a 1v1 with Sky right now.
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Post Post #1629 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:15 am

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In post 1619, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Havo, why did you vote for Texcat after saying Skygazer was scum?

Also, I don't like Sky's insistence that the scumteam must have been bussing. Two people voted GE, so that would have been an attempt at a counterwagon. I don't understand why she is certain the scum were bussing.
In post 1620, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, have you solved game as you said you would in Havo?
There’s a question I asked you earlier about something you asked about Havo, I can quote it if you can’t find it
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Post Post #1630 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:17 am

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In post 1624, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Looking at Texcat's ISO, the only comment about GE before the vote was in , so I would like an explanation as to why they did it.

Also, Garmr, the reasons why I didn't vote Wh4t immediately are these:
1. I didn't like the fact that the same people who mislynched FA were all agreeing to get Wh4t as well. I thought that since there was probably at least one scum in there, it might be a bad idea to follow their lead.
2. I figured that if only Wh4t was pushed or questioned, there would few AI interactions regardless of Wh4t's alignment. If he was scum, then all teammates would surely bus for example. However, I believed that if I presented other potential lynch targets, then the reactions from others would be telling.
3. I also thought that some people(like TW) were not answering questions and needed to be pressured.

The reasons why I changed my mind were these:
1. I didn't feel that great about Wh4t, as posts like and demonstrate.
2. I liked RC's unvote and revote after I suggested he be lynched if Wh4t flipped town, the fear and uncertainty he showed seemed more likely to come from a town perspective than a scum perspective. Since he was one of the main people pushing the wagon, that made me feel better about it.
3. Once two quick votes were cast against GE, I started to suspect that the scumteam was trying to start a counterwagon.
Texcat still is scummy for the same reasons I’ve felt they were scummy the whole game: the lack of presence reminds me of our scumgame together in Large 213
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Post Post #1631 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:18 am

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In post 1628, the worst wrote:
In post 1625, Havo wrote:
In post 1620, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, have you solved game as you said you would in Havo?
Yes I have.

Texcat and Skygazer are the remaining scum.

I voted Tex because I didn’t want to get into a 1v1 with Sky right now.
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Post Post #1632 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:20 am

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In post 1631, Gamma Emerald wrote:This confused the fuck out of me for a second
:lol: least I didn't say the sky is emerald :shifty:
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Post Post #1633 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 9:49 am

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In post 1624, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Looking at Texcat's ISO, the only comment about GE before the vote was in , so I would like an explanation as to why they did it.
This is bananas! My ISO is not so long or dense. You should be able to see where I have been suspicious of IAI/Gamma Emerald since the beginning of the game.
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In post 859, texcat wrote:VOTE: FA_Q2

Sheeping RC + OMGUS + I think we need to start consolidating.

I could also vote for Worst or Gamma. Gamma is a little more townie than IAI was, but is still on the scummy side.
In post 352, texcat wrote:
In post 346, Saudade wrote:I liked horrordude better
I don't know what this means.
In post 350, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Texcat, can you explain what made you suspect Saudade initially? You alluded to having some speculation about his potential motivations for entering as he did in , but I would like you to further elaborate on why you think a scum player would bother acting like Saudade did. Also, are you less suspicious of him now that you have voted for IAI? If not, then which of them do you think is more likely to be scum?
I don't think town players need to announce that they are town, at the same time claiming that they are not overly defensive, in their first post. I don't know why scum would do it, but I don't know why town would do it either. It was a page 2 scum read, and I haven't seen anything much to solidify it.

I don't know what's up with IAI. He never answered my question. I was voting him, but unvoted when he got to L-1. I don't want him hammered without replying.

@mod Are IAI and Fred Campbell being replaced? Their prods were over 48 hours ago and we haven't heard from them.
In post 285, texcat wrote:
In post 281, FA_Q2 wrote:@texcat then why not put the pressure there?
OK.

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Post Post #1634 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:13 am

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In post 1445, Havo wrote:
In post 1443, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Basically, I'd would normally be voting for Wh4t right now, but I'm currently hesitating to do so because plenty of people from the FA wagon(you, Sky, Havo, TW) are on it. RC, I followed your lead once and it didn't pay off, now I want to be more careful before doing what you say. If you and others engaged with me further, this problem might be fixed.
If RC is scum, there’s a very good chance that he’s the only scum on the FA wagon.

If RC is town, then there’s a very good chance at least 2 scum on that wagon.

Just vote What, and I’ll solve this game tomorrow.

That’s why my activity has been throttled. I’m waiting patiently for Day 3. If What is the lynch today, we’re good. If someone other than What is the lynch, then all bets are off. I know it’s asking a lot, but I’m supremely confident here.
What made you change your mind about at least 2 scum on the FA wagon?
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Post Post #1635 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:31 am

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In post 1628, the worst wrote:
In post 1625, Havo wrote:
In post 1620, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, have you solved game as you said you would in Havo?
Yes I have.

Texcat and Skygazer are the remaining scum.

I voted Tex because I didn’t want to get into a 1v1 with Sky right now.
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Is this 99% or more?
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Post Post #1636 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 10:39 am

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In post 1635, Havo wrote:
In post 1628, the worst wrote:
In post 1625, Havo wrote:
In post 1620, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Also, have you solved game as you said you would in Havo?
Yes I have.

Texcat and Skygazer are the remaining scum.

I voted Tex because I didn’t want to get into a 1v1 with Sky right now.
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Is this 99% or more?
if you won't explain your nonsense y shld I
assume I'm open to hearing you out here. like texy was my first scumread and skyg is wolfy... so......
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Post Post #1637 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:29 pm

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Nah. I got nothing solid.

I was trying to draw the night kill actually.

Because......

If what flipped town then RC was scum.
If What flipped scum, the RC was town.
RC is a much better player than me so I was trying to keep a town RC alive basically.
It didn’t work because scum figured they could discredit my arguments as opposed to
Leaving RC in the game.

But I heavily scum read Tex.
Sky is scummy but could be town.

I think TC and Garmr are town currently
Gamma I lean town on
You I lean town on.
I think Ruby is town based mostly on Saudales play
He who swims is kinda null.
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Post Post #1638 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 12:31 pm

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What are your thoughts on HWS and Gamma?
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Post Post #1639 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 1:02 pm

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In post 1637, Havo wrote:If what flipped town then RC was scum.
If What flipped scum, the RC was town.
problem here is like RC's most famous thing is being good at scum because he's an excellent busser and distancerer so I'm really not sure why Wh4t flipping red cleared him fypov. actually I'm pretty sure most would agree his randomly being correct on a scumread super early, getting distracted then annihilating them d2 is bus indicative. but the fact you feel otherwise makes me think you would have been likely to perform the NK on RC lol

Your language yday was also not NK baity. you didn't sound very confident in your ability to win even in like a misplaced way. you just felt overly confident you would be alive d3 and this feels like a kind of after-the-fact justification for your posting d2 :(
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Post Post #1640 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:33 pm

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This site exhausts me. People here are obsessed with scum bussing. I’ve never seen anywhere like it.
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Post Post #1641 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:36 pm

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I told you and everyone else that I had a strategy for playing with guys like RC that never fails me.

Once again it came thru.
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Post Post #1642 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:38 pm

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If I was scum RC would have died Nite 1.
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Post Post #1643 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:46 pm

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1640 totally ignores my point ok nice thanks
1641 also ignores my point
1642 is just bad self meta


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Post Post #1644 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 2:55 pm

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Ignores your point?

I disagree with everything you said.
Because it’s ALL wrong.

I don’t think you’re scum. So you need to really evaluate what this is.
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Post Post #1645 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 3:03 pm

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ok tell me why I'm wrong
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Post Post #1646 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:20 pm

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In post 1644, Havo wrote:Ignores your point?

I disagree with everything you said.
Because it’s ALL wrong.

I don’t think you’re scum. So you need to really evaluate what this is.
In post 1643, the worst wrote:1640 totally ignores my point ok nice thanks
1641 also ignores my point
1642 is just bad self meta


ok thx
I agree 1640 is bad, looks like complaining about being caught
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Post Post #1647 (ISO) » Wed Sep 12, 2018 4:32 pm

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In post 1621, Garmr wrote:
In post 1619, Completly Trustworthy wrote:Havo, why did you vote for Texcat after saying Skygazer was scum?

Also, I don't like Sky's insistence that the scumteam must have been bussing. Two people voted GE, so that would have been an attempt at a counterwagon. I don't understand why she is certain the scum were bussing.
VOTE: Completly Trustworthy
I don't like the fact he is throwing around that concept to see how people react (that the two people voting GE should be scum.)

He pretty much set this up yesterday. Yet he didn't come into today with a vote or a case or even a look at both players. Instead he left it in the open. You would think someone who believed in this concept would work from there. Also he ignored the people who didn't vote.
Deleted the bit you answered to my satisfaction this is the bit I have a problem with. You pretty much ignored the existence of people not voting as well.
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