Mini Normal 2108 : 1st game

[Tchill13]

Wake if bob flips town shoot me I don't want to deal with people tomorrow. If he flips scum shoot Tchill for me because I will of proven to be one of the most competent scum hunters here..

hmm...

[Tchill13]

So scum have a doctor maybe ...?

Why would scum have a doctor.

Town Macho I don't have any special abilities or night actions just a macho modifier.

tchill vt
skit vt
wake vig

BEF ???
garmr ???

rob Wont claim

Wait that doesn't make sense. A townie is lying

Because the protective

/Friendly neighbor hasn't been claims. Unless one town is lying/and or it's a hybrid role.

I don't understand my head hurts I'm going back to sleep. Hopefully it sorts itself out when I wake up again.

this maybe what gets me to vote garmr.

[Garmr]

So scum have a doctor maybe ...?

Why would scum have a doctor.

Town Macho I don't have any special abilities or night actions just a macho modifier.

tchill vt
skit vt
wake vig

BEF ???
garmr ???

rob Wont claim

Wait that doesn't make sense. A townie is lying

Because the protective

/Friendly neighbor hasn't been claims. Unless one town is lying/and or it's a hybrid role.

I don't understand my head hurts I'm going back to sleep. Hopefully it sorts itself out when I wake up again.

this maybe what gets me to vote garmr.

If i'm macho there must be a protective unless mod is being a bastard.

[Tchill13]

Hectic's 344 feels an awful lot like coaching to me...

why would that be happening here and not in the scum pt?

bef is still townie

@Skitter

Care to give us a shotgun read on everyone?

robb - scummy
tchill - probably townie but i disagree with a lot of what he's saying
wake - idk / null
hectic - townie (?)
rabid - i think i was townreading him earlier but i'm not really anymore. now he's just null
garmr - townier than null
bef - townie
bob - null/no read

i understand that i have too many townreads; the ones i'm least certain of are garmr and hectic

Bef your progression and vote on me are awful

Scummy rvs vote

Bef's entrance was townie, have no opiniom on tchill's

EBWOP

My vote is on wake because this was going to be my excuse if I have trouble getting engaged on D1.

i think this is minorly townie

wrt bob's rvs vote, i think that popping in and making a vague joke is scum-indicative, and that scum are more likely to make such rvs posts than townies are

Ok maybr tchill is town

We should probably push bef now

I think we should probably be lynching bef today

[Garmr]

So I been thinking since tchill could easily vote me as scum and skitter would vote me automatically after yesterday that would be game for him.

[Garmr]

Hey tchill one question your not a doctor/bp of some kind right?

[Tchill13]

have you? because ive made it very obvious skit would be who id be voting.

no im not.

[Tchill13]

fuck me.

im gonna actually have to think about this.

the other scum practically has to be bp so my shit clearing garmr doesnt hold. it is the only reason i havent already voted.

[Tchill13]

start explaining shit garmr.

[Tchill13]

Official Vote Count 1.17

With 9 votes in play, it takes 5 to lynch.

bob3141:(

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skitter30 Menalque Garmr creature
Tchill13:(0)
Garmr:(1) bob3141
Robbnva:(0)
Wake88:(0)
creature(1) Tchill13
skitter30:(0)
Menalque:(L2)BrightEyedFish Wake88: Robbnva
BrightEyedFish:(0)

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Deadline (expired on 2019-11-29 20:40:00)

thank goodness garmr is on the d1 lynch... i thought it was just skitter lol.

that makes voting garmr easier.

[Tchill13]

skitter, based off my experience, is too good to kill creature there.

the last scum has to be bp, so garmr being in the kill pool doesnt clear him.

skitter has played the end of mylo perfectly imo. everything made sense. the garmr push makes sense based on play.

skitters change of read on me made since given the reasoning and timing.

there are a few posts from garmr that give me pause (both players vied to be the vig kill)

neither had any clear progression on BEF. Skitter TR'd them until it was obvious they'd die.

Garmr hasnt done a thing other than get butt hurt and scream at me.

then he opens this day phase apparently SR'ing me again...

im fully considering and leaning towards voting garmr.

[Tchill13]

skitter, based off my experience, is too good to kill creature there.

the last scum has to be bp, so garmr being in the kill pool doesnt clear him.

skitter has played the end of mylo perfectly imo. everything made sense. the garmr push makes sense based on play.

skitters change of read on me made since given the reasoning and timing.

there are a few posts from garmr that give me pause (both players vied to be the vig kill)

neither had any clear progression on BEF. Skitter TR'd them until it was obvious they'd die.

Garmr hasnt done a thing other than get butt hurt and scream at me.

then he opens this day phase apparently SR'ing me again...

im fully considering and leaning towards voting garmr.

[Tchill13]

So bef, do you have any other thoughts on the game? Reads on anyone else?

The game got off to a blazing start, making me dizzy and paranoid.
Here is a shotgun reads list, and before anyone asks, these are all gut reads based on ISO reading:

bob3141 - null, 1 RVS post
Tchill13 - Town lean, his "i've changed" post seems genuine. However, alone it's not AI and could be a ploy.
Garmr - I don't get why he scum reads me but if this game is anything like my other games, I'll probably say something "scummy af" get a wagon on me (usually led by scum)
Robbnva - Null - The amount of posts makes me want to put Robb in the scum pile but I don't like committing too early.
Wake88 - My RVS vote is there now, but I feel fine leaving it there even out of RVS for now
skitter30 - I always think skitter is town and I'm pretty sure I've never played with scum!skitter. Just going on odds RN. Town.
Hectic - Hectic's post fit his name well. Scum lean just for the abrasiveness.
Rabid Schnauzer - I want to put Rabid in the scum pile but as I'm writing this I am getting the feeling that I am just scum reading the most active players.

im usually extremely inconsistent and if youve made statements similar but im completely igonring youre posts...

then im not seeing the statements. so i cant push you for those statements.

So you're just not reading my posts then?
(After the whole 'skitter is gud' thing?)

I've also given reads on bef and rabid on the previous page.
Hectic gut town, robb is scummy

Skitter is town.

it's really annoying, and scummy when a player says players are scummy without explaining why even when asked. It is also annoying when a player doesn't explain why they are town reading people and when shown really damning evidence to counter the town read and is asked to comment on it, ignores it completlt.

I have revised my lynch list to rabid/skitter/hectic/wake in that order. I actually think skitter may move ahead at some point because I don't see myself agreeing with much of anything she has said this entire game and the fact that she blatantly ignores important questions and can't be bothered to actually explain why she has the reads she has, leans super scummy.

I'm starting to doubt my skitter TR. This feels right in a weird way. It's like I don't want to get caught up in conf bias by SRing but I never really thought about it could go the other way with TRing skitter.

@Skitter

Care to give us a shotgun read on everyone?

GEEZ

Now I just want to lynch both tchill and garmr just to get them to stop. This feels like something personal and has nothing to do with this game.

@Garmr
Are you just OMGUSing tchill for his vote or are you still mad about another game?

Besides tchill who else do you find scummy?

UNVOTE:

Since this was a L-2 and now I am totally lost on both slots. I think it could still could be TvT but these 2 have something to work out that doesn't feel related to this particular game.

@tchill


I'm justgoing to stick with robb at least he hates everyone the same and besides he is putting in the most work.

VOTE: skitter

I really need BEF to come in and contribute more.

I don't want him getting mislynched for not being active.

TAADAA, ask and you shall receive...

Sorry. Been on daddy duty since my kids kindergarten is closed today and tomorrow but I'll post when I can.

The rational and statistically sound option is to lynch from the bob wagon. If that wagon was all town then we are doomed anyways.
Let's start at the beginning.

VOTE: skitter

bef do you not understand that if we mislynch and wake shoots town tonight (hey maybe even your fn) it doesn't matter whether or not the fn announces himself to someone else, since the game will just be over

and isn't it better for the fn to conftown himself to everyone now instead of to just one other person tonight?

Well then maybe wake should holster tonight.

i mean i asked you about y our vote on me but you ignored me so

I'm working my way through the bob wagon. You were the first stop and I think i don't need to go any further atm.

Good. Gooood.

ALL players have had a chance to post, now.

Assuming Scum have Day Talk, they did not quickhammer on BEF for game.

SO, BEF is Scum. Scum would not wait to win the game when they could have quickhammered as I slept.
.

Yeah but I'm sure one scum (skitter) was already on my wagon.

I confirm Rob as the FN.

I'm VT. Skitter claim has to be bogus don't care about the other scum right now (probably garmr or tchill)... can't focus. Every game I'm in I eventually get mislynched. I guess it just my style and other town have no problem seeing me go. and I really don't get it. Blah Blah Blah lynchbait, blah blah blah for mechanical reasons it just gets frustrating. I get this is a game of manipulation but people always get tunneled on me and just will kill me out of spite.
I've really got to evaluate how to approach a game.

I'm VT and Rob is FN. That's all the info I have.

robb hasnt agreed to send the message to me.

All players have posted and Scum didn't quickhammer.

You do realize you can say this same thing about skitter.

I don't know what else you want from me. I was wanting to scum hunt but you wouldn't let the FN thing sit aside long enough for me to talk about anything else and I couldn't really get invested in it.

I still think we HAVE to lynch from the bob wagon.

in fact you KNOW that town!rob is on the skitter slot and your biggest TRs skitter and tchill are sitting on me? Think about that...

well i dont believe that BEF plays his scum partner like this.

[Garmr]

So I been thinking since tchill could easily vote me as scum and skitter would vote me automatically after yesterday that would be game for him.

This isn't me scum reading you this is me giving you a town point for not voting me straight away.

So your not a doctor or protective of anykind.

The mod of his game is bastard.

[Tchill13]

I personally think BEF is the best lynch today

Garmr is probably the other scum

He isn't doing anything of importance

this is nice.

[Tchill13]

I do think tchill vs garmr could be TvT tbh

. tchill seems pretty confident in his meta read and his push feels real and I don't think scum!tchill would make a big push on town!garmr this early in the game.

That being said, I don't think garmr is scum, he just seems indifferent imo.

literally only thing i seen bef say about garmr.

meanwhile BEF has that long drawn out change of Town! skitter to Scum! skitter.

[Garmr]

VOTE: Skitter
Well this is easy for me I'll let tchill work out the rest.

[Garmr]

Tchill just vote me and get this over with town is going to lose and it looks you made up your mind.

[Tchill13]

lol.

freaking out much?

[Tchill13]

im gonna go get a drink to show skitter im town.

then im gonna tell you why you're scum with one quote.

[Garmr]

apathetic at this point. Also if I was scum I wouldn't have a bp modifier.

[Tchill13]

you realise that with this setup town had the ability to win this game in one day phase?

and if you are an RB instead of a BP it'd be even more ridiculous given you may never know who the vig or FN is.

you maybe BP RB, to cause confusion of the FN by chance.

but if you do not have the BP modifier I really do think this is the most inexcusable joke of a setup that could ever have been made.

[Tchill13]

well... i'll give you two quotes, but this really could just be one.

[Garmr]

If I were to guess at the set up it would be basically two goons. No rbs no Bps nothing. Maybe scum have a strong arm or something to throw them off towns roles.

[Tchill13]

GEEZ

Now I just want to lynch both tchill and garmr just to get them to stop. This feels like something personal and has nothing to do with this game.

@Garmr
Are you just OMGUSing tchill for his vote or are you still mad about another game?

Besides tchill who else do you find scummy?

UNVOTE:

Since this was a L-2 and now I am totally lost on both slots. I think it could still could be TvT but these 2 have something to work out that doesn't feel related to this particular game.

@tchill


I'm justgoing to stick with robb at least he hates everyone the same and besides he is putting in the most work.

VOTE: skitter

zero, no reason other than to hop on robb's rage in hopes skitter gets lynched.

if you're going to bus surely you'd at least find a decent reason to do so given that busing with no reason defeats the purpose.