Mafia 89: Revenge (Game Over)

[Azrael001]

Woo. Go me.

[popsofctown]

If you were nicer to your so he'd shoot every night :p

[Xylthixlm]

If you were nicer to your so he'd shoot every night :p

Once again, in English?

[Kmd4390]

Who killed me?

[Phate]

List of night actions pending.

[Vi]

Well played, Shanba. Well played. B&B did well as well, for the short time he was here. And much as I hate to admit it, so did CESc. With each game that this happens, the more I realize that nothing should excuse scumminess in the present, especially in the endgame.

@Xyl: You were an obvious Mafia kill.
@Kmd: You were an obvious Mafia kill.
@pops: Why didn't you shoot?

Everyone not mentioned in this post, myself included: Let's pretend this game never happened.

[Mafiaplayer]

I would've won the game if you FOOLS hadn't lynched me!

Eh, nah, I was pretty crappy. nvmind

[Kmd4390]

Vi, I was more curious why I was killed so early.

[Shanba]

I told you it was lylo.

Kmd: Yos was the mastermind behind your kill. Ask him.

I feel slightly guilty about bussing Yos. However... I don't think it was a terrible move. Perhaps not optimal, but not terrible. Truth is, it all but cleared me - and that's the sort of bussing people should do - and even had we let azrael run to a lynch, the game was a long way from a foregone conclusion. But it prob wasn't necessary.

[popsofctown]

Since you guys were all "oh pops is sk so let's ignore the obvious threat and kill him and talk about skdom all day", I figured I'd have to blackmail you guys to even live. So I changed my mind about shooting cesc and decided to assume two scum and no shoot, which would hopefully cause a 2 town 2 scum 1 sk day, which is lynchmafia or lose.

Looking back and remembering my reasoning, itwas the perfect decision, the liberal scum estimate was already a loss, even if I shot.

I think vi's preoccupation with the so hurt both of the two factions that were LOSING at that point, decreasing the energy spent considering cfr's claim. It pushed me into voting him defensively too. And as I said earlier, I would have functioned more like a big if you guys didn't start attacki me so much, which would have made a diff if there were actually fewer scum.

I'd like to point out that I'm the only one who killed any scum this game. ( joint or alone)

[Vi]

I'd like to point out that I'm the only one who killed any scum this game. ( joint or alone)

Yos2 lynch, etc.

And as I said earlier, I would have functioned more like a big if you guys didn't start attacki me so much,

As far as I could tell you were acting like a vig all game. It's just that all the obvscum in this game happened to be Town.
And IIRC people only started attacking you to any significant extent ~D4, etc.

[popsofctown]

I helped kill yosariam.

Yeah it only hurt us d4.

Azrael should try harder etc

[CF Riot]

So who shot Light, who shot TCS, and were there any other shots that one night? GG scum. On the last day 2/3 of the remaining players were scum, and I still managed to call for a town lynch. I called CESc and Shanba the two worst lynches. =/ Not a good game for me. Lurking reinforces itself as a useful scum tactic yet again.

[CF Riot]

Oh, and MP were you lying or did Phate really tell you that you got roleblocked N1?

[Cogito Ergo Scum]

Were you NK-immune, Pops? It would've been so much easier for us if we'd known.

Thanks for the game, Phate, Gorrad, and everyone.

Shanba played incredibly tight, I must say. Kudos.

[popsofctown]

I dunno if iwas night kill immune.

I shot mm, light, armlx, and mykonoan. No shot final night. All my kills succeeded

[BridgesAndBaloons]

This is why you lynch lurkers

I was lurking all game because I was scum and wanted to see if I could go away with it. I was really busy, so I decided

not

to replace myself. Unfortunately, I forgot about the three prods = replacement rule, so I got replaced by MME.

This game really showed how anti-town lurking was.

I'm extremely surprised no one was going to lynch me. (when I was in the game).

[BridgesAndBaloons]

Also, I'm not proud of my play, it was not fun to be a lurker, and I don't plan on ever doing it again.

Also Also,

BandB: Why am i an SK? T

answer is in your quote. Bolded the key points.

that chart hurts my head.
What i know is,

SKs don't have roleblocking power.

If light-kun could be SK, and btw

his behavior is really SK-like (with the shrugging but not really seeming connnected to anyone)

, then lynching him today could prevent a NK tonight. That's important.

actually, I'm nearly willing to vote you on this alone. (Of course, I should actually read your other posts first...)

How do you know that "SKs don't have roleblocking power?" There's two explanations I can think of, and both point to you being a SK:

1) You would know that SKs don't have a roleblocking power if

you

were the SKi that didn't have a roleblocking power.

2) You're trying to convince us of something that isn't neccesarily true. Only a SK would want us to underestimate the SK. Why, as town, (or even as scum?) would you want the town to not fear the SK?


Another point, you're putting this additional, almost, preemptive strike against L-k as the SK. What I mean is that the best way to not be lynched as SK yourself is to blame it on someone else. If he's not nightkilled, you're setting up a lynch that's not yourself (which as SK would help you), or you're trying to get him night killed by some anti-town and/or pro-town person, which still helps you because it would be another person not targeting

you

.

I need to look at your other posts more carefully, but I feel that the mafiaplayer wagon is more pressing since he's close to being lynched, so I need to look at that first before I look at you.

did this post scare you, pops? Why didn't you think to nightkill me after that? I really thought you were the SK, but I was worried that town would percieve me as SK-hunting and not scum-hunting, so I kind of forgot about it

[Mafiaplayer]

Yeah, phate really told me I got roleblocked.

[Knight of Cydonia]

You're shitting me. Seriously?
Even if I had been notified, the sheer improbability of that happening (first time I've seen this in, like, FOREVER) would have probably made me keep quiet.

[Mafiaplayer]

Assuming I can quote pms since the game's done...

You have been blocked.

[Xylthixlm]

Too much exposure to XylBot.

Shakes head sadly

[MonkeyMan576]

Thanks for the game everyone, and I'm glad my side won even I got killed early:P

[Shanba]

Too much exposure to XylBot.

Shakes head sadly

Or not enough.

Roleblockers can't be blocked, dude. :P

[popsofctown]

I'm really sorry for the lack of activity in this game. I keep posting this and getting prodded, but I've been super duper busy. At this point, I've contributed so little I feel like it would be better if I tried to find a replacement for me.

Bb, you posted stuff like this the whole game. If you weren't actually too busy to post, you were lying about outside cirumstances, which many people consider to be cheating. ( try searching it in mafia discussion. )

It's a brokenly good strategy. If players can lie about outside circumstances, you become indistinguishable from town aligned players who actually got busy, meaning you have to lynch neutral-towny players who got too busy just to get people like you. At one point you said "this is the busiest time of my life".
You had a really good d1 IMO, and you combined that with what I see as a broken strategy (not cheating if phate didn't call it so.). To win. I was working on the assumption people don't lie about outside circumstances, so to me you were towntell for d1 and nulltell for having a busy life and posting no further. I didn't shoot you because I thought you were town.