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Post Post #1725 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 7:56 pm

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In post 1723, Wickedestjr wrote:Okay, thank you. He HAD actually claimed. I was just testing you. I was kind of hoping you would claim something else... You are either town or scum that skimmed the recent pages AND/OR copper's iso.

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Ok, this confirms my read on you.
I'm going to be gone for a few hours but will continue later.
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Post Post #1726 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:01 pm

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Also the "Townsperson" is misleading, I'm more experienced here than it seems.
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Post Post #1727 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:02 pm

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How experienced?
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Post Post #1728 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 8:03 pm

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A year this site and more on others, I'm aware of most the players meta in this game. Also...
UNVOTE:
Please don't lynch anyone while I'm gone.
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Post Post #1729 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:33 pm

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Penwin is probaly town.
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Post Post #1730 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:44 pm

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It's late. I'm distracted. But...
In post 1714, Teapot wrote:Well, the situation looks grimm. Tracker and Jail-Keeper killed night-1.
I can still point out newbscum tells, and I do mean, classical, fundamental, "well, that sucks", been around since the days of JEEP TELLS, scumtells, in this.

Teapot's scum.
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Post Post #1731 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:49 pm

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BBT is ringing scum for me, I'll see how this works out as I go on.
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Post Post #1732 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:50 pm

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Hi Mastin, I'm not new.
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Post Post #1733 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:51 pm

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Beast could also possiby be scum, worse than BBT.
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Post Post #1734 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:53 pm

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Vettrock's looking town.
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Post Post #1735 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:54 pm

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Mastin could very well be scum with BBT.
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Post Post #1736 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:54 pm

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(I'm at page 17 and forming reads if it isn't clear.)
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Post Post #1737 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 10:55 pm

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The slot titus is in is town.
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Post Post #1738 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:07 pm

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In post 1732, Teapot wrote:Hi Mastin, I'm not new.
Then that makes you, and your posting, all the more worse.
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Post Post #1739 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:13 pm

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In post 1738, mastin2 wrote:
In post 1732, Teapot wrote:Hi Mastin, I'm not new.
Then that makes you, and your posting, all the more worse.

Posting on a phone from class, once I'm home and have access to a PC my posts will get better.
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Post Post #1740 (ISO) » Tue Feb 03, 2015 11:32 pm

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Ok I'm going to give reasoning for my scum reads, they are going to be based off looking who joined the Dave wagon and how they did it, how people positioned themselves with the main wagons throughout Day 1 and who's voting Copper (How they joined the wagon) as I know he was town.
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Post Post #1741 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 12:58 am

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I believe Mastin2 and BBT are scum partners together. Beast is probably also not town however e could be the Serial Killer. I haven't seen any Vig claims so I doubt that there is one.

Mastin and BBTThe early-game mock around looks to me like they were having a little fun as partners. They're bussing each other softly and jokingly saying the other could be scum, this could be distancing. Both of them are experienced players, this would make little plots like this more likely. This on it's own is not really alignment indicative at all, it's just a lump of pre-flip associative tell however I wanted to state it before I went into explaining why I think they are scum.

Mastin keeps her options open early game by saying that her reads are "fluid". She's already tunnelling Dave and seems to not be outing reads on anyone else. This isn't scummy, she'd the first one Dave, however it's not really pro-town to already be tunnelling. (Is this common Mastin play?)
BBT in the meanwhile is just lurking. I know from him that as town he often tunnels people, he's also stubborn about his reads. However he is usually active, hunting for scum in his own manner. I haven't seen this type of play so far this game. He starts posting in what he calls "Chunks" and catches up. Usually he tl:dr's and says screw catching up. I think that he's using these catch up posts to vote people and look town as scum. I'll explain why later.

He throws comments around her and der, even saying some things are scummy. However he doesn't continue to push any of these reads, besides Dodgy. He randomly voted Dodgy a while back as a sort of OMGUS and he since then he's been attempting to justify it. It feels forced, as if he just searching for reasons to say Dodgy's scum. He even claims at one point that "it will become clear why he voted Dodgy" through his catch ups. He voted Dodgy and later said he was going to catch up, there's a contradiction here. He's basically saying he already had good reasons for voting dodgy, that would imply he's reading the thread, however he catches up the game quite a few post later implying he hasn't. I think the whole catch up is being used as a tool. The dodgy read is also dropped rather too quickly, it once again feels unnatural.

In the meanwhile Mastin is lurking. Until she comes back, says Copper's town as well as BBT. She then also scum reads Davesaz, conveniently as he's now under a lot of pressure. It feels opportunistic.


That's where I'm at now, I know Dave was town due to the first mod post. Still 30+ pages to go, my reads may completely change.
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Post Post #1742 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 1:44 am

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In post 1724, Teapot wrote:Anway, I believe you are town from play so far. Shame my two town reads were killed off.

Scum post right here.

Can we lynch this slot now?
Meta this. Meta that. Meta Everything. Meta is not a good scum-hunting tool. PEOPLE CAN MANIPULATE THEIR META. Stop it. Stop. It. Now.
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Post Post #1743 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:37 am

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Sure, I'll flip town. That's satisfying,
then I'll vengekill you, even more satisfying.
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Post Post #1744 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 2:42 am

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Wicked, – so, do you think that I wanted to save Copper's Day because I mentioned
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possibility amongst many others, when I summarized all of the possibilities that came into my mind? Do you think that
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single thing is more important than all of my posts about scumreading Copper?
I know it's off but why do you think that Copper had to be replaced (without a warning)?

Wicked, – your logic is perfect... IF Vettrock is town. But that doesn't proove that Vettrock is not scum.

Your reaction test on Teapot is another towntell on you, anyway.

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I'm reading your posts but I won't express my opinion until your catchup has been finished. I have a very good reason for doing so: your slot is my main scumread. You'll find a little summary about Copper in .
Also: Either will you find everything about the current situation during your catchup, or you have already known the most important things. (Whether you're scum or not.)
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Post Post #1745 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:01 am

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Actually this is copper's common play, meta him. His newbie game is a good one showing his town play as PR. BBT was also in that game as town.
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Post Post #1746 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:02 am

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Anyway, I'm continuing.
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Post Post #1747 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 3:32 am

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You are obviously not caught up...
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Post Post #1748 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:10 am

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In post 1747, Titus wrote:You are obviously not caught up...

Indeed that is a correct observation.
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Post Post #1749 (ISO) » Wed Feb 04, 2015 4:26 am

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I'm really not used to this BBT type of play, I'm going to have to look at some more of his game but I no longer think he's scum.
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