Mini 653 - Family Guy Mafia - Game over

[reborn537]

I think we have to lynch GW. We'll gain so much information by doing it.

So GW you WEREN'T roleblocked?

That means we lynch you and if you flip town we lynch LF, and if you flip scum we lynch STD.

[GhostWriter]

...

Righto, this is going to not end well. Just wondering, does anyone have anything on me, other than that "roleblock" from PETER? Now, what I'd like to know was who IG protected the past two nights, and what any of you think about him not ever being targeted.

Also, Yes, I'm saying that I got a result as if I simply had not been blocked from using my ability.

[reborn537]

GW... why would the bodyguard ever be targeted? His only power is to protect someone at the cost of his own life, therefore using a nk on him is totally redundant.

[GhostWriter]

You know, that's absolutely correct, and I feel stupid now, for having done it, but I was under the impression that they wanted to kill him to stop him from protecting anyone they really wanted dead.

[reborn537]

Sorry GW, you're definitely going up the gallows today.

[GhostWriter]

I was going up there anyway. That can be denied as much as you like, but it was going to happen. Today, a lynch of either me or STD was going to happen, and LF's roleblock claim of me puts me out in front. However, I have already stated that I think STD is mafia, and had STD been lynched, and flipped as maf, I'd have been killed the very next day. But that is fine. As you say, I do need to be killed for information, and I doubt I have a good survival rate at night anymore, but do not not look at STD after my death.

[reborn537]

I was going up there anyway. That can be denied as much as you like, but it was going to happen. Today, a lynch of either me or STD was going to happen, and LF's roleblock claim of me puts me out in front.

I hate to admit it, but you're absolutely right here.

As you say, I do need to be killed for information, and I doubt I have a good survival rate at night anymore, but do not not look at STD after my death.

Are you admitting to being mafia here? Why aren't we supposed to look at STD after your death? If you flip mafia, then everything you've said immediately becomes a null tell, so I'm pretty sure we'll carry on with the original plan assuming (and this is a big assumption) that STD survives the night. And I hope he doesn't, because I really don't want to lynch someone on the basis of "your scum partner outed you".

If you recall, I was vigged when it happened to me - I think it's the only way to do it without bringing out the horrible arguments.

[LlamaFluff]

My whole getup is the fact that the only way you arent mafia is if scum targeted you N1. I really dont see that happening even with IG-scum given that there were *two* roles that were proveable at some point in the game. All that would of had to happen was NK-reborn, IG says "I protected Llama".

[reborn537]

Also, GW if you could prove LF is innocent by voting for myself and LF that would be very helpful.

[LlamaFluff]

Also, GW if you could prove LF is innocent by voting for myself and LF that would be very helpful.

This isnt productive. GW should make a case on dragon and IG if thats who he thinks scum are.

[reborn537]

Of course it's productive. I want to know if you're scum or not. If GW has two votes, you're cleared. Why wouldn't you want this to be proven?

FoS LF

[Save The Dragons]

(because, yes, I could make my actions when I was "roleblocked", because I sent in my action and got a response of nothing happening),

Wait...what? LF, are you sure your jailkeeping did what you sad it did?

As you say, I do need to be killed for information, and I doubt I have a good survival rate at night anymore, but do not not look at STD after my death.

Are you admitting to being mafia here? Why aren't we supposed to look at STD after your death?

It's a double negative. Do not

not

look at...well...me.

[LlamaFluff]

(because, yes, I could make my actions when I was "roleblocked", because I sent in my action and got a response of nothing happening),

Wait...what? LF, are you sure your jailkeeping did what you sad it did?

Well I woke up with the keys to the jail, so at the very least GW was roleblocked. Last night I remembered giving away my vote, but GW hasnt proven that though.

I know no other form of jailkeeping apart from RB + protect, and given what my specific actions are, I see no reason to think that this JK is any different from the classic JK that you see in most games. I still think that GW is scum who just was unlucky enough to be submitting the kill, the watcher role doesnt really work for me as 100% town either, as its basically a weak rolecop when in the hands of scum.

I still dont see GW-town here. The claim of N1 and N2 actions being identical seals it for me though. Now I know I am dabbling in outguess the mod, but when roles are informational, they NEED to be told if they are roleblocked. Lets say GW is town for a second, and N1 she targeted reborn who was killed by rock. Now if I blocked her and she got "nothing happened" that is just wrong. You would get "You have been roleblocked" or "no result". I want GW lynched, and unless someone is going to take credit for the kill stop, im not going to stop this push.

@reborn - Sorry, I thought you were antagonizing GW, not trying to check and see if he can doublevote. From past experiance though for me doublevote is your vote counts double, not you can vote in two places.

[GhostWriter]

As you say, I do need to be killed for information, and I doubt I have a good survival rate at night anymore, but do not not look at STD after my death.

Are you admitting to being mafia here? Why aren't we supposed to look at STD after your death?[/quote]

You miss read that. Those two "not's" are not a typo. I'm telling you that when I flip town, do not make the mistake of assuming that STD is not mafia. I understand that being seen as a mistake though.

Also,

Vote: reborn, Vote: LF

Hope that works.

[reborn537]

Sorry, misunderstood the two "nots".

[RestFermata]

As for cases on you, GW, aside from the jailkeeping thing, there's another thing that I think pretty much cinches you as scum:

Scum Rock tried to defend you by claiming "Watcher" and saying that Llama performed no night action the night Llama said he roleblocked you. Sounds like one scumbuddy defending the other to me.

[elvis_knits]

Also, Yes, I'm saying that I got a result as if I simply had not been blocked from using my ability.

You're L-1 now I think.

So, claim, and give these "results."

[RestFermata]

He claimed.

[elvis_knits]

Oops, okay, I see it now...

He says he's quag, watcher.

I remind us all:

The Watcher is a somewhat common information role that can target a person at night and learn who targeted that person the same night.

And he says he targetted IG both nights and nobody went after IG. Well, duh. There's no need for mafia to target IG, when they can just kill whoever, and if IG is protecting them, IG would die. Right? So esentially, GW made a big miscalculation in watching IG, or he is faking these results because faking anything else would get too complicated and prehaps "out" GW.

I don't like the results.

And I can think of no other reason we didn't have a kill N1 that GW being jailkept. I repeat: I could not have prevented a NK on N1 (or any night). I think everyone else also said they could not have prevented a kill. So the only explanation is GW was prevented from killing by LF's jailkeeping.

[farside22]

Mayor Adam West: I stand beside my decision, this press conference is over. [covers eyes] I can't see you now, I can't hear you now, You're not here now. La la la la la, la la la, la la la la la.

Vote count:

GhostWriter 3 votes: (restFermata, reborn537, Elvis_Knits)
reborn537 1 vote: (GhostWriter)

not voting:

kloud1516
Inspector Godot
LlamaFluff
Save The Dragons


With 8 alive it will take 5 to lynch.

Deadline October 1st, 2:00pm PST

The answer to all questions is I'm a bastard mod.

[reborn537]

unvote

LF, explain yourself.

[LlamaFluff]

Probally rule 12 - votecounts can be misleading. All I know is the result of my action sound like I gave GW my vote.

[reborn537]

vote GW

In fact, we still kill you. You're definitely still the best option. If Farside is really a bastard mod, as she claims, then that could explain the lack of a double vote. Either way, we'll find out whether LF is scum when you die.

Sorry dude.

Back to L-2. Kloud and IG need to stop lurking and come to the fore.

[farside22]

Prodded IG. Kloud has posted since the game started.

[reborn537]

Yeah, I know, it was pretty concerning really, wasn't it?

Care to post your thoughts on today's lynch farside?