135 is my answer to that.curiouskarmadog wrote:also so they dont get lost, I am still waiting for Zaj to answering my questions for 134
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THIS JUST IN.
Paltry and Sotty are both sexy and have equally sexy points on Enigma.
Vote: Enigma-
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Zajnet wrote:
135 is my answer to that.curiouskarmadog wrote:also so they dont get lost, I am still waiting for Zaj to answering my questions for 134curiouskarmadog wrote:Zajnet wrote:Sorry about the jokes, buttwoStar Wars references become that obvious and I have to jump on it.
I could say the same about you, actually. You're reasons so far have been "I like this wagon more than AGar," and "gut vote."
I think metas are relevant, but when you bring up your own meta is diminishes its worth. This is mostly why I voted SV.
what is your point? At least I am providing a stance, and some basic reasonings, I have to ask to get it out of you....can you please explain to me why he is scummy for the way he brought up his meta? Feel free to use his quotes.
I asked you why he was scummy, you give me a post where he is being an ass (which I think is probably how he rolls)...so how is what you quoted, scummy?Zajnet wrote:
The way I worded that was slightly off, but this is the quote that irks me.Shattered Viewpoint wrote:If you can't handle Advanced Scumhunting 101, you're on the wrong site.NO YOU'RE OVER DEFENSIVE-
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"Please please please please please please please please" says a mechancial voice over and over.
Distracted, the team splits up to locate the source of the annoying sound. It's the kind of annoying like when you're on a cross-country road trip in mom's station wagon, and there's some damn toy in the back that keeps getting turned on over and over and playing "It's a Small World" until YOU JUST WNAT TO !@#$%!@%
Anyway, someone eventually finds the severed head of a flight attendent. "Please please please put your seats to an upright position" she says in a clipped mechanical voice. There's wires dangling from the bottom, they're robots? This explains everything.
Fifth Votecount of Day 1
1. Col.Cathart (0):
2. KageLord (1): Zorblag
3. Chronopie (1): curiouskarmadog
4. ConfidAnon (1): AGar
5. Gammagooey (0):
6. AGar (1): Enigma
7. Zajnet (4): smashbro_of_the_SSS, Beefster, ConfidAnon, StrangerCoug
8. Zorblag (0):
9. tumescence (0):
10. Enigma (2): PaltryExcuse, Gammagooey
11. StrangerCoug (0):
12. smashbro_of_the_SSS (1): Shattered Viewpoint
13. Beefster (0):
14. Shattered Viewpoint (5): Sotty7, Col.Cathart, silverbullet999, Zajnet, Chronopie
15. Sotty7 (0):
16. PaltryExcuse (0):
17. curiouskarmadog (0):
18. silverbullet999 (0):
Players not voting: KageLord, tumescence
With 18 players alive, it takes 10 votes to lynch.
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silverbullet999.Shattered Viewpoint wrote:
I'm having trouble with this. Who, exactly, do you think is avoiding questions?StrangerCoug wrote:
This is not a newbie game; therefore, I expect him to know better than to think he should be ignoring questions most of the time. Willfully ignoring a player is scummy.Gammagooey wrote:So I think these arguments that SV is town because the wagon moved fast are pretty silly given that there are only 4 scum in the game, so with 7-8 players on his wagon the majority of those are almost certainly town, BUT I still like SC for scum more than SV, silverbullet is reading town to me right now and SC's vote on him looks more like an excuse to have a serious vote down than reasoning behind silver being scum.
I conflated viable and plausible. Thanks for straightening me out.Beefster wrote:
I'm not really seeing how it is fallacious. I never said he was wrong, I just said that his statement wasn't viable. Viable =/= Plausible. Viable in this case means it can legally be used. Plausible just means that itStrangerCoug wrote:
This is fallacious. That everybody disagrees with you does not mean that you are wrong. If it means anything more than that, it means you have to build your case to get people to rally for your cause.Beefster wrote:Mafia is a game of evidence. You seem to be the only witness of "scum skim," therefore it is not a viable point. In courts and whatnot, you typically need at least 2 witnesses for any evidence to count.
FoS: Beefstercouldbe true. "Scum skims" is plausible, but not viable- as no other witnesses are backing it up. Much like how the flying spaghetti monster is plausible but not viable.
I was explaining out why "I have seen it" isn't a good reason. I suppose I should have made that fact more clear.Un-FoS.
Generic questions, I see your case, but I still beg to differ with your wording "maybe". There are very few instances where ignoring questions is just fine, and the "maybe" wording implies the odds of ignorance of questions being scummy being somewhere in the middle of the road. I did not join this game to argue over trivial semantics, so I may have to agree to disagree here.Gammagooey wrote:
NOPE. In a different situation maybe, but not wanting to answer someone's generic questions because they already answered the same person's generic questions elsewhere is not scum motivation.StrangerCoug wrote:
This is not a newbie game; therefore, I expect him to know better than to think he should be ignoring questions most of the time. Willfully ignoring a player is scummy.Gammagooey wrote:So I think these arguments that SV is town because the wagon moved fast are pretty silly given that there are only 4 scum in the game, so with 7-8 players on his wagon the majority of those are almost certainly town, BUT I still like SC for scum more than SV, silverbullet is reading town to me right now and SC's vote on him looks more like an excuse to have a serious vote down than reasoning behind silver being scum.STRANGERCOUG: Stranger Than You!
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I wouldn't say I'm confident Shattered is town, I'm just not confident he's scum either. I'm seeing it more as a difference in playstyle / frustration with early pressure. This wishy-washy read of mine pales in comparison to someone who I believe has acted scummy.Sotty7 wrote:I'm liking Paltry's 163 post on Enigma. It is a newbie scum tell but can be applied here. I will have to go back and read and see the context. Paltry, are you pushing on Enigma because you think Shattered is town?
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You know, for the purpose of this question I even ISO'd him.PaltryExcuse wrote:@Col. Cathart, Zorblag & silverbullet999: What do you think of Enigma's play?
strike one: Lot's of talking about theory, absolutely no talking about anyone at least potentially scummy, I didn't notice that before, awfully scummy.
strike two: hesitance to vote. One of my favorite personal tells, usually works like gold for some reason.
That's easily 2x as much as I had on both Beefster and SV.
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vote: Enigma[b]Mini 934[/b] is [b]over![/b] Thanks to everyone participating.
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Hmm.. LALurkers isn't my style.
Enigma is definitely leaning scummy. But I much prefer ConfidAnon's hypocrisy.Ski mask? Check! Sawed off? Check! Guilty conscience, fear of death? Check! Check! Check!
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ofc I am. One game at a time, in order that I get the emails to my inbox.curiouskarmadog wrote:in other news, Chronopie is posting all over the site (10+ times today)...can we please start a wagon here and not reward him for lurking.ShowHe'sbaaa-aaack
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Sorry for being dead lately...
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Where else have I been ignoring questions?, I expect him to know better than to think he should be ignoring questions most of the time.
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Isoing now...What do you think of Enigma's play?
Wow... not much of a contributor atm. To push him to actually scumhunt and what not...
VOTE: Enigma
(I still am leaning SV as scum though...)
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Although happy with an Enigma vote, I'm looking for scumhunting from your slot as well. If you think SV is scum your vote should be there. I'm through with pressure votes and now I'm voting ye who I find most likely to be scum. You not doing the same is scummy in my eyes.silverbullet999 wrote:-Paltry
Isoing now...What do you think of Enigma's play?
Wow... not much of a contributor atm. To push him to actually scumhunt and what not...
VOTE: Enigma
(I still am leaning SV as scum though...)
@CKD: Is this a policy lynch of Chronopie, or is there some underlying meta of lurking-Chrono = scum-Chrono?-
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>_< closed the tab yesterday on a Wall-o-text. lost it all.
Lets try this again...
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. . . you didn't read my post, did you?AGar wrote:Because you haven't posted a single thought of your own in this game yet, just opportunistically hopped on bandwagons (one of which, you hopped on because a player was himself being opportunistic) and posted "I agree with X."
Oh well, no point arguing about this particular subject.
Anyways, I iso'd SV, Enigma, and Zajnet.
I still like my vote on Zajnet over the other two.
SV seems to be actually making an attempt at scumhunting, and although Enigma is quiet, his posts seem to be trying to prompt discussion. Also, I can see the town motivation for withholding a vote, it doesn't seem to me like a scum only tell. Zajnet has a bunch of noise, and the content he does give is short little blurbs like "the quote irks me" or "gut read + the unvote thing." (Those aren't verbatim.)-
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Asking for a prod is effortless, and gets him here and talking sooner rather than later. I'm not going to suspect someone based on "they aren't here playing the game". If you can give me one good reason not to ask for a prod of a semi-absent player in comparison to waiting until the next day phase I'm all ears.Shattered Viewpoint wrote:PaltryExcuse wrote:If you're concerned with smashbro's activity, why not ask for a prod?Shattered Viewpoint wrote:We'll get to him tomorrow.
Constant theory talk, which led me to Enigma, is why I suspect him. Theory talk is easy to do as scum as you can be truthful without revealing ANYTHING. They encourage talk meant for MD and doesn't aid in scumhunting, it hinders it. I don't mind a little when defending yourself / explaining yourself, but he has done nothing but it. Do you know Enigma's suspicions? I currently have vague guesses but really no firm idea.ConfidAnon wrote:SV seems to be actually making an attempt at scumhunting, and although Enigma is quiet, his posts seem to be trying to prompt discussion. Also, I can see the town motivation for withholding a vote, it doesn't seem to me like a scum only tell. Zajnet has a bunch of noise, and the content he does give is short little blurbs like "the quote irks me" or "gut read + the unvote thing." (Those aren't verbatim.)-
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Good point.PaltryExcuse wrote:Constant theory talk, which led me to Enigma, is why I suspect him. Theory talk is easy to do as scum as you can be truthful without revealing ANYTHING. They encourage talk meant for MD and doesn't aid in scumhunting, it hinders it. I don't mind a little when defending yourself / explaining yourself, but he has done nothing but it. Do you know Enigma's suspicions? I currently have vague guesses but really no firm idea.
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Oh I'm sorry, you used a "reaction" (crud) and an "explanation and speed of the wagon" (also crud) to justify votes. So much better..ConfidAnon wrote:
. . . you didn't read my post, did you?AGar wrote:Because you haven't posted a single thought of your own in this game yet, just opportunistically hopped on bandwagons (one of which, you hopped on because a player was himself being opportunistic) and posted "I agree with X."
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@AGar, how long is it reasonable to let people go in a game without contributing?
@Paltrey Excuse, I don't love Enigma's play by any stretch. Not moving his vote since his first post despite apparently finding things he dislikes at least enough to say that he dislikes them isn't great. He is mostly focused on theory which isn't what town should be doing. The part about StrangerCoug's knowing what the claim would be is a bit off. Right now I wouldn't mind if he got lynched at all. I've still got more from him than I do from tumescence though.
@tumescence, we're still waiting for that read and post. 4 words over 8 pages fails to impress me.
@Zajnet, so having a reason other than joking for doing something you know doesn't make sense or is otherwise unnecessary is scummy? I don't think I buy that.
UNVOTE: KageLord
VOTE: tumescence
I'd be willing to lynch any of the following if it came down to it right now without feeling the least bit bad: Chronopie, Enigma, silverbullet999, tumescence, Zajnet. That list could be longer without much trouble at all but it's already more players than there are scum.
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