Mini 1939 - Organization XIII (Game Over)

[IV Vexen]

Alright. Time for the reveal.

I'm both a protective role, and an investigative. I'm probably not going to die tonight, so if there's another protective they shouldn't target me tonight, but I'm almost certainly biting the bullet tomorrow night.

Every night I target someone, and all actions taken against that target fail. If I target someone for the second night in a row, I'm told that person's alignment.

Now you know why I had literally 0 doubts I wasn't getting lynched today.

My big theory post at Xemnas is still relevant too, but should be delayed due to the obvscum lynch tomorrow.

[V Lexaeus]

Lol.
"Huge difference."
The quote is literally the definition of rolestopper.
Ahahahaha

Yes it is now if you don't mind I am trying to figure out something fishy if you don't mind I am trying to scumhunt here and actually giving credence to what you're saying could you not be difficult about it?

[X Luxord]

Sure thing

[IV Vexen]

Xemnas (Replaced once)- IC
Xigbar- Informed Infinite Commuter/ Most of the power remaining in town role that he refused to elaborate on and tacked on 6 pages later.
Xaldin- Tracker w/ 4 targets N1, 3 N2, etc.
Vexen (Replaced once)- ^
Lexaeus- Protective of somekind with an additional bit of role
Zexion- Unclaimed
Saïx- Bomb/1 shot vig, either but not both
Axel- Stopped N1 made everyone hated D2, proven
Demyx (Replaced once)- Softed investigative, specifically tracker, which is worth considering
Luxord (Replaced two times)- Neighborhood that makes people hated
Marluxia- unclaimed
Larxene (Replaced once)- Flipped investigative immune Roleblocker
Roxas- Proven roleblocker, claimed infinite shot BP.

There, from memory. Not gonna find links to individual claims, but Demy's soft was immediately after Xal's claim. He asked if him being a tracker would change my desire to get results before lynching Xal, and I berated him over the soft.

[V Lexaeus]

Xemnas (Replaced once)- IC
Xigbar- Informed Infinite Commuter/ Most of the power remaining in town role that he refused to elaborate on and tacked on 6 pages later.
Xaldin- Tracker w/ 4 targets N1, 3 N2, etc.
Vexen (Replaced once)- ^
Lexaeus- Protective of somekind with an additional bit of role
Zexion- Unclaimed
Saïx- Bomb/1 shot vig, either but not both
Axel- Stopped N1 made everyone hated D2, proven
Demyx (Replaced once)- Softed investigative, specifically tracker, which is worth considering
Luxord (Replaced two times)- Neighborhood that makes people hated
Marluxia- unclaimed
Larxene (Replaced once)- Flipped investigative immune Roleblocker
Roxas- Proven roleblocker, claimed infinite shot BP.

There, from memory. Not gonna find links to individual claims, but Demy's soft was immediately after Xal's claim. He asked if him being a tracker would change my desire to get results before lynching Xal, and I berated him over the soft.

Where was the hood openly stated hated?

I said neg util but not hated?

[IV Vexen]

@Vexen you claimed doc?? Where?

Not outright doc, but it's functionally my role. Link momentarily, but I roleblock everyone who targets my target, including NK's. If I target them twice I cop them.

Why do you think Town would have two roleblockers?

Because there's a flipped town roleblocker.

Regardless of which one of me/Xig is town there's two roleblockers. His is reflexive, mine is everyone else who targets a player. Anyway you slice it, there's a lot of town power here which probably means a lot of scum power.

[IV Vexen]

I don't think it should if you scumread my slot regardless if I claimed Cop/IC you should vote my slot.

I'm a neighborzier each day I pick someone to invite to a game that we play in the neighborhood the winner will be loved the next day while the loser is hated.

[IV Vexen]

Didn't specify whom he was targeting, but this was D1, iirc.

[IV Vexen]

Roxas is doublevoter, not roleblocker. Sorry, typod there.

[IV Vexen]

Oh, btw, clarified this with anti pretty much immediately after I replaced in. If someone with a role like mine were to target someone who is investigation immune, only the cop function would fail. The two actions resolve separately.

[V Lexaeus]

@Saix How would a doctor interact with your Bomb? The wiki says to ask the mod.

@Vexen -- Hypothetically, assume day ended this second: Would you be on the IC or another player with all the protectives that are claimed?

[V Lexaeus]

Don't say who obviously if someone else.

[V Lexaeus]

Be back in 30 but with all the claims mass claim is hella in order at this point.

[IV Vexen]

@Saix How would a doctor interact with your Bomb? The wiki says to ask the mod.

@Vexen -- Hypothetically, assume day ended this second: Would you be on the IC or another player with all the protectives that are claimed?

His bomb is only for NKs.

I'd target one of you, Xem, Rox. I really want a cop result on Rox, because he's perfectly emulating or is one of the people who I believe can completely outplay me as scum. I would be using an rng pattern to choose between the three to disincentivise scum killing either you or Xem.

[IV Vexen]

I asked a fruit vendor or other relatively useless targetting role to confirm Saix not killing power when targeted, btw, because he clarified to bomb from PGO, and I cannot see town PGO playing the way he has.

[V Lexaeus]

@Saix How would a doctor interact with your Bomb? The wiki says to ask the mod.

@Vexen -- Hypothetically, assume day ended this second: Would you be on the IC or another player with all the protectives that are claimed?

His bomb is only for NKs.

I'd target one of you, Xem, Rox. I really want a cop result on Rox, because he's perfectly emulating or is one of the people who I believe can completely outplay me as scum. I would be using an rng pattern to choose between the three to disincentivise scum killing either you or Xem.

Correct. The wiki states to ask the mod what happens if a Bomb is killed doc heals Bomb. I am asking Saix about that scenario.

[IV Vexen]

Be back in 30 but with all the claims mass claim is hella in order at this point.

Not today. Too little time to discuss and reason it out.

Not tomorrow either, unless we lynch Xig today, because it won't effect the correct decision of lynch Xig, and just gives scum a chance to play around anything town that comes out.

But yeah. Full massclaim, as described in my big theory post to Xemnas earlier today is in the near future.

[V Lexaeus]

I asked a fruit vendor or other relatively useless targetting role to confirm Saix not killing power when targeted, btw, because he clarified to bomb from PGO, and I cannot see town PGO playing the way he has.

I can see a Town Bomb claiming PGO. It discentivizes town PR deaths and draws the NK as PGO is faked by PRs. It is a site meta.

[IV Vexen]

I'm saying he's already answered. He kills anyone who attempts to kill him. The kill still succeeds.

[IV Vexen]

Yeah, but claiming PGO then switching to Bomb is most certainly something scum PGO would do, and I'm not discounting that option given the amount of power town has.

If a fruit vendor dies tonight, Saix is confscum.

[V Lexaeus]

Yeah, but claiming PGO then switching to Bomb is most certainly something scum PGO would do, and I'm not discounting that option given the amount of power town has.

If a fruit vendor dies tonight, Saix is confscum.

No Saix is confTown.

Reasons.

You'll see when I die.

[IV Vexen]

If someone targets me at night, they will be killed automatically.
I can kill someone at night, but if I choose to do so, I will forfeit the first ability.
So, in effect, I have only one functional power but been given the option to choose out of the two.

Lynching is the only likely way I will be shown the door, unless the scum can afford to reduce by 1. I can go to the endgame if people believe me.

*If someone targets me at night for a nightkill

[IV Vexen]

If a fruit vendor dies tonight, Saix is confscum. If he's conftown, that won't happen. If there is a fruit vendor and they DON'T die, that's good evidence for Saix town that doesn't rely on your role or you being town.

It's just correct play. If you are a fruit vendor or similarly useless night action, target Saix.

[V Lexaeus]

If someone targets me at night, they will be killed automatically.
I can kill someone at night, but if I choose to do so, I will forfeit the first ability.
So, in effect, I have only one functional power but been given the option to choose out of the two.

Lynching is the only likely way I will be shown the door, unless the scum can afford to reduce by 1. I can go to the endgame if people believe me.

*If someone targets me at night for a nightkill

Would you stop spamming the thread already?

https://wiki.mafiascum.net/index.php?title=Bomb

Last sentence Variations is what I want to know.

[V Lexaeus]

If a fruit vendor dies tonight, Saix is confscum. If he's conftown, that won't happen. If there is a fruit vendor and they DON'T die, that's good evidence for Saix town that doesn't rely on your role or you being town.

It's just correct play. If you are a fruit vendor or similarly useless night action, target Saix.

A) There is no claimed fruit vendor.
B) I am telling you Saix is confirmed Town.
C) This setup looks to be designed in such a way that confirming yourself via role is useless.