Mafia 110: Mafia in Hell, Michigan (Tied.)

[Ythan]

He has and I have and make your own points rather than failing to use someone else's, scum.

[Ythan]

If you want to just leave it as is and see what the town thinks we can certainly do that. Are you sure?

[Ythan]

You might want to go ahead and do that.

[Ythan]

You don't have any night actions personally but your mafia faction does as a group?

[Ythan]

Oh sorry, I didn't realize how wrong it is to be skeptical of scum who claims VT.

[Ythan]

For future reference to anyone playing mafia ever don't pay attention to last will posts. If the player was any good they wouldn't be getting lynched day one and so there's no reason to forgo intelligent scumhunting to follow their half assed leads.

[Ythan]

Do you know how to post anything other than spammy insulting inane bullshit? On the off chance that you are town I'd still prefer a lynch on you over anyone else in this game. Call it a get rid of the annoying jackass policy lynch.

[Ythan]

The funny part is that this is exactly as constructive as anything else that you've posted.

[Ythan]

Blah blah blah lynch please.

[Ythan]

I love how you can only point to one single dubiously helpful thing you've done all game.

[Ythan]

Please people lynch the crybaby before his tantrum

completely

ruins the thread.

[Ythan]

Yawn. The fact that you're still pushing a case on me based on nothing but OMGUS is pathetic, not that pathetic is out of character.

[Ythan]

Attacking a terrible player is not scummy no matter what he flips. Let that be yet another lesson in things you don't know about Mafia.

[Ythan]

God he's still talking.

[Ythan]

Haha.

[Ythan]

The argument is actually not about who is scummier but in fact is half him baselessly OMGUSing me for leading a wagon on him and half me talking about what a terrible player he is.

[Ythan]

See that there is not a trace of meaning in his posts, not even the irrelevant meaning that can be found in mine.

[Ythan]

I think he broke the site.

Also my case was not about the smiley, that was one little piece he tried to conflate my attack with entirely.

[Ythan]

Ythan and Horrordude- STFU. You guys are so annoying. And all Ythan is doing is distracting me from trying to get reads on people's alliance. DO you really think we'll lynch him because you keep on calling him mentally inept?

Yeah. And what's troubling you is that other players are not posting, not that we are.

Where did this come from?
You said that you were going to do something...why do you change your mind?

No I actually did it quite a bit ago.

Do you mean my post 142 in iso? He was just following a wagon with momentum without contributing anything of his own.

What I called invalid is invalid. And you said you were going to simplify the attack. Why not anymore?

Again you really need to provide something other than "No, no good." We're not mind readers you know. If you have a problem and it's real then detail it.

Again, could you just sum up the 3 main reasons you believe so profusely that horrordude is scum?

There's a point where even just repeating

references

to old posts where I did this is going to get old.

Sigh. This annoys me.

"When I die lynch this person" posts are probably the dumbest thing I have seen in my time on this site. Does anyone really think that we're losing out on a great analytical boon to town when he dies and that we need him to leave us some clues to follow?

Is your strategy to repeatedly post how stupid and annoying the attacked player is?

Strategy is over, scum has already been revealed.

Explain. Because it still seems as though its based on his use of smilies.

Are you serious. Just do this I'm not typing it up again.

Horror is my biggest read, the others have less evidence and more gut, so let's look at him for the moment and flesh out the cases on the others when he's dead. If it's not the least bit inconvenient iso me and look at posts 34, 36, 56, the bit of 92 about him, the bit of 105 about him, and the bit of 142 about him. It adds up. If you would like me to explain or elaborate on any little thing then by all means ask.

[Ythan]

Our tongues aren't exactly doing much at the moment so I don't see the point in that.

[Ythan]

You keep saying you're going to stop talking. Let's hope this one sticks.

[Ythan]

Horror is my biggest read, the others have less evidence and more gut, so let's look at him for the moment and flesh out the cases on the others when he's dead. If it's not the least bit inconvenient iso me and look at posts 34, 36, 56, the bit of 92 about him, the bit of 105 about him, and the bit of 142 about him. It adds up. If you would like me to explain or elaborate on any little thing then by all means ask.

Here is I think the best one.

[Ythan]

Rather than counting down the minutes just let me know if you have any questions when you're done.

[Ythan]

If you're still trying to frame the case against you as being entirely about a smiley then you're not even doing your job as scum right.

[Ythan]

You missed the fact that you're mixing me up with other players.

[Ythan]

I'm not avoiding a question and trying to paint the post I just made that anyone can see as doing that is as idiotic is trying to put the case about day kill incident on me. I don't have any other plain evidence against you though I could include the terrible way you have and continue to handle the entire affair.

[Ythan]

This vote.

while it may not give us much to go on, anything is useful at this point.

Unvote and vote farside22

He's obvious distancing from his own vote, made more plain by how he responds to initial questioning.

[Ythan]

There are answers he could give that would not put the issue to rest completely but would keep him from being such a huge target.

[Ythan]

His was not the only minor point I made near the beginning of the game. His blew up over it though, and here we are.

[Ythan]

Do you even know what you're doing wrong anymore? Also what happened to no more incessant pointless AtE blithering?

[Ythan]

Bells and whistles.

[Ythan]

BTW, what will you say when I flip town? "Oops, thought he was scum. Guess I was wrong. Just trust me when I say that I'm not scum!"

If you think only scum would attack you as terrible as you look you are so far off the mark you weren't even facing the right direction.

[Ythan]

And the mod says L-1.

[Ythan]

Neto, my bad typo.

Pman, you're saying you'd love him because you feel some ownership of the wagon?

[Ythan]

I said those weren't enough for me...
But if you insist that it should be, then I won't inquire further.

I never said that. What I have been consistently saying is that if you can't raise a specific issue with my case then just asking me to make it better is the wrong way to go.

In my opinion, you aren't doing well to counteract that. It really seems as though the smiley thing is the biggest point of your attack.

Oh well, long as he dies.

Good point. Ythan, why can't you talk like this?

I asked for a sum up of your top 3 reasons, and you gave me a bunch of posts to look at. There's a difference. I'm only an SE.

[Ythan]

I can understand the case you're making on NS. I think it will become clearer once Dude dies so the best way to support it is to hammer.

[Ythan]

Adjust?

[Ythan]

No, I am not going to do that yet again. If you are the one who seems to be continuously having trouble with in then take into account the fact that it might not be my fault after all.

[Ythan]

I asked why he used the smiley and shared my interpretation. So yes you are.

[Ythan]

Don't get indignant when I don't repeat myself for the dozenth time.

[Ythan]

I have no problem with you disagreeing with my interpretation. You're the one pushing this argument based on nothing more than our differing viewpoints.

[Ythan]

No, it would be best if hypocrites kept those thoughts to themselves.

[Ythan]

I think it's time for you to ask another player to reexplain their cases to you. There's only so much active lurking you can direct at one player.

[Ythan]

I'm done with you. You're not doing anything constructive at all, you're just repeating the same vague questioning over and over again about someone else's contribution rather than making your own.

[Ythan]

Dude is an opportunistic idiot attempting to ride someone else's flimsy coattails and wagon me. Seriously he even admitted to lurking. Can we just lynch this awful guy already.

DS is not an idiot but simply does not understand that asking the same person the same question over and over again is going to reach a point where that person doesn't give a fuck what you think anymore.

[Ythan]

I'm not dodging your questions. You're asking questions that have already been answered more than once. In fact you're hardly even asking questions, but just asking me to spoon feed you. I'm not going to to that because it is not constructive or meaningful or fun. There are plenty of other players to lynch dude and who can do it without being coddled first.

[Ythan]

Besides, without me this thread would be boring!

Because we wouldn't have such obvious scum to lynch.

[Ythan]

Even his attempts at insulting threads are just no u. Somebody shoot the doorman.

[Ythan]

That makes nine. Dude please vote yourself so that Rich can hammer you.

[Ythan]

Someone tell him that suicide is acceptable so he'll do it.

[Ythan]

I'm L-1 right now I believe

Eleven minus nine is in fact two. I just checked every player's last vote.

[Ythan]

Sorry, I missed the Farside unvote

Save the disdain for yourself.

[Ythan]

I'll bet it isn't.

[Ythan]

Again with the petty bullshit. Don't blame me for your lynch, you had it coming.

[Ythan]

Congratulations you are the worst player I have ever seen or ever will.

[Ythan]

You don't even understand the reasons you're being lynched, or you're being intentionally obtuse in a terrible scum play to save your neck.

[Ythan]

Wow, I almost feel bad about how much I must have upset his delicate sensibilities. But he brought that aspect into this argument so it's his own fault for not being able to take it in return.

[Ythan]

If we get lucky he might just be modkilled.

[Ythan]

You're the one who brought personal attacks into the argument. If you're going to get so upset over someone responding in kind, albeit in a somewhat better thought out manner, let this be a lesson to you.

[Ythan]

Not going to comment.

[Ythan]

Oh come on, my signature's not even a part of the game.

[Ythan]

For you, Neto, anything.

[Ythan]

If you're going to bring this up as an afterthought I'm not going to feel bad about anything that came before. Sorry about your parents, not sorry about anything else.

[Ythan]

I need to give NS another read but I don't recall him being particularly noteworthy.

[Ythan]

1. SaintKerrigan
4. WRP_Beater
6. RichardGHP

9. horrordude0215

Dude today, reevaluate cases on Kerrigan, Beater, and Richard tomorrow?

As much as it physically pains me to agree with Ythan, I do.

unvote

vote horror

He just keeps getting worse.

I'm not happy about Rikenslope's sudden jump onto the Beater wagon, either.

Okay.

unvote.

Vote: Richard

GPS

GHP

I think that HDude is just being too-newb. I don't think he's scum. (HDude: If you do flip scum, I will hate you. Forever.)

FoS: Ythan.

Too much attention being paid to HDude. Let's do Richard today, possibly StKerrigan (or maybe, just

maybe,

you!) tomorrow. Deal?

Here's the deal: I'm sick of the bickering.

Vote: horrordude

I read the forty-two-thousand pages of back-and-forth; I don't recall another vote besides farside's; she says he's at L-1, I think he's at L-2. Either way, if I'm hammering, so be it.

Guys, what do you think of this?

***

Farside, which vote? Can you link me to the part of the game you're talking about?

This post?

[Ythan]

I have thoughts as well, but if you have a reason why I should wait until tomorrow, and I agree with it, I'll do so.

[Ythan]

I disagree but it will be moot as soon as dude gets the axe.

[Ythan]

A note, anyone who's tired of bickering should hammer.

[Ythan]

Goodnight.

[Ythan]

In before night?

[Ythan]

Glad the Richard issue was cleared up. And dead scum too!

Need to reread isos again in light of stuff.

[Ythan]

Kerrigan
1 RV on confirmed scum.
* Wishy washy voting.
40 I thought you had vibes on Dude.
42 Ace, active lurking, really?
46 Unvoting when he's replaced? So was it a scummy vote or a policy vote?

[Ythan]

Really, apart from the first point that all falls under strange voting pattern.

[Ythan]

I have trouble seeing Mr. Four Posts as active anything.

[Ythan]

An unconfirmed townie, at that time.

[Ythan]

jesus didn't realize this was page 5. haven't read. I'll go back and find reasons ace is scummy or die trying.

Christ 13 pages in a day and a half? I'll probably just end up supporting whatever wagon is leading. Give me some time.

This, immediately followed by content-heavy activity, gives me headaches. I'm putting you in a corner until we work out the easier problems.

[Ythan]

Bah.

Town has this in the bag.

Playing town.

[Ythan]

Believe me, I'm a VT. Why would I lie when I am daykilled? You've just wasted a daykill.

I read this as very not genuine.

[Ythan]

1. SaintKerrigan
4. WRP_Beater
6. RichardGHP

9. horrordude0215

Dude today, reevaluate cases on Kerrigan, Beater, and Richard tomorrow?

Dick and dude are dead. I'm gonna go with SK today.

vote SaintKerrigan

[Ythan]

At the start of each day in any game I review each living player. Just a habit.

[Ythan]

Queen Bitch of the Universe today.

[Ythan]

Also, aren't you being a little ungrateful?

Please put this in context that doesn't make it look bad.

[Ythan]

Last night was an odd night. If you know what I mean please say so.

[Ythan]

SK, where did you go. We were getting somewhere?

[Ythan]

EBWOP, switch those two punctuation marks.

[Ythan]

How do you feel about SK's wishy washy wagon hopping and the like?

[Ythan]

Also, aren't you being a little ungrateful?

Please put this in context that doesn't make it look bad.

Explain.

It looks like you want someone to lay off you because you did something for them.

[Ythan]

Because you're asking someone to lay off their case for an unsound reason.

[Ythan]

Mum's the word.

[Ythan]

Happy to see such a contributive post from you.

[Ythan]

Not having his head in the game just replaces one reason to lynch him with another.

[Ythan]

Perfect tell, commenting on the obvious. You mostly appear town, but IGMEOY.

Think more, read the wiki less.

Four. Top four. Someone really needs to explain to me this 'ungrateful' thing. Also, I find myself, on preview, agreeing with two of my top picks. Hmmm. I need to read a few people in iso.

I took Saint to be claiming that he should get off the hook because he had done something or other in the past and farside's response made me think it was something best not to delve into. You know the sort of thing I'm talking about and also to shut it for a bit, though I'm sure you're brought it to great enough attention already. That being said I'm not sure at all what was going on.

Unknown == scum.
Yeah, I have really mixed feelings about Ythan.

I've been accused of rolefishing before because I more or less share this sentiment (more or less) but the town has mysteries too. This is what I took it for and why I set it down for the moment.

It just seems a little off that a person who I had an FoS on would in one day slide from my FoS to my least scummy suspect. Also you now have deemed SK to be your apparent target this round for who you want to get rid of with this lynch.

I said yesterday he was one of my three suspects for tomorrow. One of the others died and I picked SK over the remaining one because he's been around to pressure.

And like I said you have some valid points, but it is weird how on day one you were trying to get everyone off of SK's back by saying anyone who voted for SK are scummy:

That's not exactly the case. The things SK was under suspicion for at that time didn't click for me. That came later.

[Ythan]

Vote count please?

[Ythan]

plz do l8r

[Ythan]

Arguing that a point is not good because it comes from someone you're voting is patently ad hom.

Also, Rike, are you voting me for anything other than the three-way?

[Ythan]

If you feel that way, Unsight, would you agree that it's better to lynch SK first? It seems that your theory hinges on his being scum. I do see that that is where your vote sits, in case you're wondering.

[Ythan]

It was a weak case, but at least I was right.

These two things together do not help you get out of a case on you.

[Ythan]

I know exactly the post you're talking about. I thought he was saying that he, and therefore maybe other players, don't like having questions leveled against them without some indication in the post of who they're for.

[Ythan]

That's assuming that there is a doctor. However, even if the doctor was suspicious of Richard it might have been best to protect someone that obvious if truthful anyway.

[Ythan]

I have one, I'm just not allowed to share it yet.

You better come clean on this later and it better be good.

[Ythan]

(2) it's retarded that no one bothered to protect richard. utterly predictable kill

Why do you think we have to have a protective role? If a doc thought he was scum I don't see why they'd protect him anyway.

If it's between one scummy claimed PR and everyone else in the game it's understandable, to me.

[Ythan]

It fits well within the framework of Lowell as scum.

[Ythan]

I didn't say I think you're scum. Temper.

[Ythan]

Farside, are you saying that if there's a doc we should consider that it might be a mafia doc?

Vote: WRP_Beater.

You really need to break this habit.

Ok then.

WRP_Beater, is that all you've got to offer?

That was to not be prodded.

Someone who's only posting to avoid being prodded should probably replace out.

WRP makes me wish for a vig. I just read it all as VI and non helpful.

Huh?

Unvote: WRP_Beater. Vote: Farside22.

You're an SK.

Ugh.

Actually it makes sense that wishing for a vig after seeing two kills is an odd thing to say.

[Ythan]

Odd thing to say, but last night was an odd night. You know?

[Ythan]

Rolefishing from SK.

[Ythan]

There is no way you can spin that as anything but extremely blatant rolefishing. Or that you can avoid your lynch today.

[Ythan]

Breadcrumbing is not a scumtell. Rolefishing sure as hell is. As for farside being an SK, she made one odd comment.

[Ythan]

Since when did I say your breadcrumbing was a scumtell? I just said it wasn't helping the town. I don't like how you're trying to spin this as rolefishing, considering you about as good as stated that you had a role.
Seriously, stop breadcrumbing.

You might just want to stop.

[Ythan]

As for Farside, why do you think it's merely an odd comment, and not an SK-slip?

I think that's quite a stretch and I think you're falling into selective scumhunting.

[Ythan]

http://www.mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php ... cumhunting

This might be even worse in that you're looking for an unconfirmed faction. Also I could apply the term more generally and say that your scumhunting is generally selective.

[Ythan]

For someone who was trying to make comments earlier today about me being greatful you certainly jumpy about things you know nothing about SK.

What was the point of this?

[Ythan]

SK is acting extremely opportunistically here.

[Ythan]

How am I supposed to know that? For that matter, how am I supposed to believe you?

I take it by your subsequent unvote that you're out of the tunnel I see in this quote?

[Ythan]

Good, anyone who was swayed by SK's case on farside can now go back to the one on SK himself.

[Ythan]

That's a hell of a thing for you to say after that business with farside. And no, I'm not tunneling. Throwing that accusation out when there are no other active cases will never work.

[Ythan]

I hadwave that statement with an accusation of opportunism.

[Ythan]

By active I mean currently under discussion. He accused me of tunneling him but there is nothing else going on at the moment. Since you asked, I will also give my thoughts on the other cases.

[Ythan]

Do you want to see anything other than jb and myself?

[Ythan]

SK's analysis of your comment made enough sense to not itself be criticized too much I think. His use of it, eh.

[Ythan]

It's not a great thing to consider if doc is scum or town it's just something to keep an eye on.

And this is something I'll be keeping my eye on if I see you on a doctor wagon at some point in the future.

[Ythan]

Are you saying a doctor would have a 50/50 chance of being town or scum?

[Ythan]

I don't consider you bringing it up in the first place null.

[Ythan]

I don't think that not wondering about the alignment of an unconfirmed doctor is an indicator of knowing too much.

[Ythan]

My resolve is absolute!

[Ythan]

Oh yeah. I went off to post in another thread before setting myself to the task and it slipped my mind. JB first. He seems to pretty well quote everything he responds to so I'm going off of his iso. If there's anything else you want me to consider I'd be happy to. Numbers are just generally a good post to look at for what I'm referring to.

27 What JB is saying he had been saying all along, I saw all along.
32 Same here. His vote on me was not unreasonable and neither was his explanation for it.
33 I disagree that two posts can't shoot someone straight up a scum list, but based on the two posts he's referring to it's understandable.

I really think he satisfactorily explained everything that came up, there's not much to say except that I think he's town.

[Ythan]

I don't do as well quoting everything to which I respond so I'll be looking at relevant posts by my two voters in iso. Again, if there's anything else (particularly another person who just isn't voting for me) you want me to address, go ahead.

JB - Addressed him in my last post. His vote is based on anti-town bickering from yesterday. Understandable.
Rike - Based on confirmed scum's wishy washy behavior toward me and thinking I was wishy washy toward SK. I addressed this and he never responded, but his vote is still there.

[Ythan]

Konowa's vote on NS makes sense. Pman's on Rike isn't what I'd vote Rike for, might be reaching a little, but the facts of the case are valid.

[Ythan]

Did not tunnel Horror, case on Horror was not about smilies. Been over that. Him flipping town does not make it worse. Town is uninformed majority. You're going to have to stick to things I knew before he flipped. And I didn't flip flop on SK. Also been over that.

[Ythan]

I knew I was forgetting something.

vote SaintKerrigan

[Ythan]

This mod is on the ball.

[Ythan]

One thing, no indication that there's an SK and not a vig. And, opportunism my be a nulltell but it's anti-town.

[Ythan]

Opportunism does not indicate scum hunting. It indicates lynch hunting.

[Ythan]

I suppose it is more likely for scum to lynch hunt. I often think of tells in terms of something definitely scummy, rather than the better definition of something more likely scummy.

[Ythan]

It's quite odd that he didn't elaborate on his mixed feelings.

[Ythan]

I was looking for something and found this.

As much as it physically pains me to agree with Ythan, I do.

unvote
vote horror

He just keeps getting worse.

Okay.

unvote.
Vote: Richard

GPS

GHP

I think that HDude is just being too-newb. I don't think he's scum. (HDude: If you do flip scum, I will hate you. Forever.)

FoS: Ythan.

Too much attention being paid to HDude. Let's do Richard today, possibly StKerrigan (or maybe, just

maybe,

you!) tomorrow. Deal?

Here's the deal: I'm sick of the bickering.

Vote: horrordude

I read the forty-two-thousand pages of back-and-forth; I don't recall another vote besides farside's; she says he's at L-1, I think he's at L-2. Either way, if I'm hammering, so be it.

Blech. I'm rereading SK soon.

[Ythan]

good morning everyone.
don't have much to go on today, as you can see, my scumhunting failed yesterday. I'll observe for a bit until I see something.

Still looking and ugh.

[Ythan]

Here's what I was looking for.

Glad the Richard issue was cleared up. And dead scum too!

Perfect tell, commenting on the obvious. You mostly appear town, but IGMEOY.

Morning all...
So Richard is gone and so is Crypto.
One townie, one mafia.
Not bad for a night 1...I guess. Although I could have done without seeing a townie PR gone so quickly. I am going to re-read day one and come up with a more substantive post a little later.

Nothing.

[Ythan]

Glad the Richard issue was cleared up. And dead scum too!
Need to reread isos again in light of stuff.

Perfect tell, commenting on the obvious. You mostly appear town, but IGMEOY.

Holy flimsy batman.

Vote: Nobody Special

- That post of yours reeks of someone trying desperately to find stuff to comment on.

You don't want to address this?

The 7-minute gap being pushed as a 'simulpost' makes me think that Unsight was reaching; trying to force a case where there wasn't one.

Talk about irony.

It fits well within the framework of Lowell as scum.

I didn't say I think you're scum. Temper.

Hair-splitting. Any reason why you said this and then tried to backpedal?

Perfect one. I wasn't backpedaling at all.

I see the world in very black-and-white terms, for better or for worse. Everyone should do things as I do, and if they don't, I like to know why. (Yes, I'm like this IRL; be glad you don't know me.)

Quite glad, and that's shit for a response.

I don't think that not wondering about the alignment of an unconfirmed doctor is an indicator of knowing too much.

I think that wondering about the alignment of an unconfirmed doctor is an indicator of knowing too much.

Would you say these two statements are equivalent? Anyone may answer. In fact, I'd like a plethora of answers to that.

Is this more stretching for a case or stretching for a waste of time?

unvote vote Nobody Special

[Ythan]

Too big to repost. If the mod would care to fix the tag I wouldn't complain.

[Ythan]

Anything else NS?

[Ythan]

It would be out of character for NS to ignore honking big posts.

[Ythan]

I think it quite possible that someone's going to drag "I am probably going to skim most of it at most. It isn't completely required for my method of scumhunting anyway." up in the future. Not something I'd be so upfront about.

[Ythan]

That's the spirit.

[Ythan]

I'm doing some rereading as well. NS might be a better lynch than SK today.

I don't really mean

might

, I didn't already move my vote.

[Ythan]

Make that did already.

[Ythan]

Thanks sweety.

[Ythan]

Ythan: Do you believe that Jb's vote on you has some validation?
Lowell: Please expand more on this belief you have on DS. It's very vague.

32 Same here. His vote on me was not unreasonable and neither was his explanation for it.

[Ythan]

Point. It does seem as if there is enough going on in the thread not to vote for a bully.

[Ythan]

Also ythan: I have to say I find it odd you don't see his comment about you pushing a lynch on horror while he sat back and said nothing as a no comment and reasonable response.

Looking over this.

[Ythan]

Makes sense. I'll definitely keep this in mind once NS is dead.

[Ythan]

NS posted in another game at 2:46 today. But nothing here despite so many ignored questions.

[Ythan]

It's not a matter of having backed up questions to answer. He has answered questions posed after questions which he has not answered, which means he's not pressed for time but simply ignoring some.

[Ythan]

Any ideas as to connections between the two?

[Ythan]

Me or Konowa?

[Ythan]

Ah, thought you meant one's change of heart on NS.

[Ythan]

I'm in another game with you. If you need a few minutes don't waste your time deflecting before doing something meaningful.

[Ythan]

Newb does not imply not noob, to use that pointlessly constructed terminological differentiation.

[Ythan]

He can be scum tomorrow. Today NS is scum.

[Ythan]

Here's what I was looking for.

Glad the Richard issue was cleared up. And dead scum too!

Perfect tell, commenting on the obvious. You mostly appear town, but IGMEOY.

Morning all...
So Richard is gone and so is Crypto.
One townie, one mafia.
Not bad for a night 1...I guess. Although I could have done without seeing a townie PR gone so quickly. I am going to re-read day one and come up with a more substantive post a little later.

Nothing.

This is also an interesting piece of that particular puzzle if you didn't see.

[Ythan]

Congrats! Hot date will take your mind off a stretched neck.

[Ythan]

ythan: What happened from saying Jb is a solid lynch for tomorrow to going after WRP?

From whom?

[Ythan]

Can we hang him yet? Pretty please???

Preaching to the choir.

[Ythan]

In regards to Jb:

Makes sense. I'll definitely keep this in mind once NS is dead.

It was a point that simply paled in comparison to what we have on NS.

In regards to WRP

He can be scum tomorrow. Today NS is scum.

This was more "Focus on NS today."

[Ythan]

How anti-town is it if you like the results?

[Ythan]

JB's voting Kerrigan now I think. Although he's still holding onto an Ythan lynch for later.

[Ythan]

NS, are you explaining more that one point as a "brain fart"?

vote count please

[Ythan]

I sure hope you're not lurking now that the heat is on someone else.

[Ythan]

More so. Looking over who's pushing Beater when there are such great active wagons to choose from.

[Ythan]

Somebody not voting NS request a claim from him. And then vote him.

[Ythan]

Now we'll have a new player in SK's slot and we can watch how they behave for the rest of the day and tomorrow. So anyone voting for SK should switch.

[Ythan]

One replacement each for six out of twenty slots isn't so bad.

[Ythan]

DS isn't hunting.

[Ythan]

Deflection.

[Ythan]

I was ninja'd by your double post. Now you're not deflecting, but you're also still not hunting. Consistently not.

[Ythan]

Jumped on the NS wagon while distancing from your vote. After that, it's hard to provide examples of what you're not doing.

[Ythan]

I don't think you're genuinely hunting, how much plainer can I get than that. And save the false indignation.

[Ythan]

Emotion helps some factions. Town is not one of them.

[Ythan]

Emotion is a revealing response.

[Ythan]

No today you have to vote for NS.

[Ythan]

Now we'll have a new player in SK's slot and we can watch how they behave for the rest of the day and tomorrow. So anyone voting for SK should switch.

Newbie question: Why is replacement warrant for unvoting?

I'm not opposed to lynching Nobody Special today (just means we switched the lynching order of SK/NS), but whoever replaces in is still burdened by the veritable bonanza of scummy activity on SK's part.

Mostly because I want NS dead first.

[Ythan]

How about this. Who is everyone's number one and number two?

[Ythan]

SaintKerrigan

MoleStargazer

Lowell

WRP_Beater

Nobody Special

Kison

JBernier93

RayFrostWikiManager

Farside22

JBernier93, Nobody Special

Rikenslope

pman5595

DedicatedScribe

Riddick

Dr. Cyanide

Unsight

Ythan

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

Konowa

[Ythan]

How about this. Who is everyone's number one and number two?

Nobody Special in the 1st place. For the 2nd place, I wanna see how who replaces SaintKerrigan will act first.

You've got to have a number two suspect wishwash.

[Ythan]

WRP_Beater

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

Farside22

JBernier93, Nobody Special

Ythan

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

[Ythan]

WRP_Beater

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

Farside22

JBernier93, Nobody Special

Ythan

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

Konowa

Nobody Special, Rikenslope/SaintKerrigan

[Ythan]

WRP_Beater

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

Farside22

JBernier93, Nobody Special

Riddick

Nobody Special, WRP_BEater

Ythan

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

Konowa

Nobody Special, Rikenslope/SaintKerrigan

Riddick, anything to say in that list about WRP?

[Ythan]

Acceptable.

[Ythan]

He still hasn't claimed has he? He dodged it last time.

[Ythan]

See DGB's signature.

[Ythan]

WRP_Beater

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

JBernier93

SaintKerrigan, Ythan

Farside22

JBernier93, Nobody Special

Riddick

Nobody Special, WRP_BEater

Ythan

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

Konowa

Nobody Special, Rikenslope/SaintKerrigan

[Ythan]

I'm having some trouble finding anything in JB's history to indicate any suspicion of me before his vote, or much at all after it even.

[Ythan]

WRP_Beater

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

jbernier93

SaintKerrigan, Ythan

farside22

jbernier93, Nobody Special

pman5595

Rikenslope, Nobody Special

Riddick

Nobody Special, WRP_Beater

Ythan

Nobody Special, SaintKerrigan

Konowa

Nobody Special, Rikenslope/SaintKerrigan

[Ythan]

You might want to just claim.

[Ythan]

I think we know what time it is.

[Ythan]

molestargazer

jbernier93, startransmission

WRP_Beater

Nobody Special, startransmission

jbernier93

startransmission, Ythan

farside22

jbernier93, Nobody Special

Rikenslope

Nobody Special/Ythan/startransmission/jbernier93

pman5595

Rikenslope, Nobody Special

Riddick

Nobody Special, WRP_Beater

Ythan

Nobody Special, startransmission

Konowa

Nobody Special, Rikenslope/startransmission

Rike, I asked for your top two not your top four. Pick two or give me an order.

NS refused to paraphrase his wincon. But he's HAMMAHed so moot.

[Ythan]

You never cleared up why I'd be your number one suspect. After being asked about it.

[Ythan]

That's a reach.

[Ythan]

Oh Rike, maybe by the morning you'll know what you're talking about.

[Ythan]

I pointed out that his suspicion of me is out of the blue. That it was out of the blue before and despite his protests it's still out of the blue in light of no explanation. I don't know if he knows that I can read posts in iso but.