Left 4 Dead Mafia - Day 6?

[Charlie]

Also deathnote is town. We should all be voting Inhim now.

Confidence level?

[almightybob]

There's too many potential flavour interpretations of Boomer Bile for it to be useful in that sense. It could be a vig, a roleblock, a redirect, a bus drive, a post restriction (although I don't see how that would be a pro-Town use), an investigation (enemies hit by Boomer Bile show up with purple outlines, whereas teammates cannot be hit by the Bile)...

I don't think your plan will work for the Boomer Bile Pome. It might work for different items with a more obvious use (e.g. shotgun) but there's too many flavour interpretations for this one.

[jmj3000]

Mod: I am ending my V/LA early.

Hey everyone, I am going to read over the past few pages and see what I can find.

[Pomegranate]

There's too many potential flavour interpretations of Boomer Bile for it to be useful in that sense. It could be a vig, a roleblock, a redirect, a bus drive, a post restriction (although I don't see how that would be a pro-Town use), an investigation (enemies hit by Boomer Bile show up with purple outlines, whereas teammates cannot be hit by the Bile)...

I don't think your plan will work for the Boomer Bile Pome. It might work for different items with a more obvious use (e.g. shotgun) but there's too many flavour interpretations for this one.

Fair, I agree. Though It's likely that boomer bile doesn't kill, because shotgun would probably do that. Nor do I think that it works as a doctor protesction, because that is most likely covered by medkit. It's hard to guess, but we can use the process of elimination a bit, I think.

[Tarhalindur]

First thoughts: DeathNote and Charlie look scummy as hell to me.

DeathNote: Asking for sample role PM in pregame, IIoA (latter isn't conclusive since he's acted this way before as town - but I don't remember him doing it to the same degree in XABC).

Charlie: Observe...

vote: almightybob

I felt like adding fuel to the fire.

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Hmm... are we certain that they ARE any town PRs in this zombie infested wasteland? Coz I get the feeling that items are there to give a powerless town some leverage.

If a townie gets an item, they become a PR for the entire game (unless they are killed before using their new ability).
If scum gets an item, then nothing changes.

And since the mod is the AI Director, I get the feeling that he'll try to "balance" things out like in the real game
Of course that is purely speculation on my behalf.

Bandwagoning and setup speculation (of a sort that could be particularly helpful for scum). Why the hell wasn't Charlie bandwagoned like hell for this post?

Unvote, Vote: DeathNote
HoS: Charlie

[DocPotter]

Charlie (#61), that Tar quotes above, is closely followed by Dizzy (#68) who brings up DN's question about the VT sample with "I forgot about this for a second... "

From here a DN wagon forms and continues rolling then Dizzy gets off it in #185 for no aparent reason.

So the question I have is:

Is Dizzy's post a (Pretty bloody effective) deflection from a possibly scummy Charlie post?

[Charlie]

Hey Tarhalindur. You must be the dude who made the set of "standard scumtells" found in the wiki. I suppose it is a kind of a privilege to play mafia with you

Anyway, I'm kinda disappointed that you attacked me based on my first post. I asked myself after posting that, :"Is this scummy?" and I found myself answering "No." I'm learning new stuff as I play! (For the record this is my fourth game of online mafia, first ever non-newbie game)

[Amished]

Hey Tarhalindur. You must be the dude who made the set of "standard scumtells" found in the wiki. I suppose it is a kind of a privilege to play mafia with you

Anyway, I'm kinda disappointed that you attacked me based on my first post.

I asked myself after posting that, :"Is this scummy?"

and I found myself answering "No." I'm learning new stuff as I play! (For the record this is my fourth game of online mafia, first ever non-newbie game)

Ruh?

[Ifrinn]

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Tar. The attempt on my behalf was botched. Prepare yourself for an onslaught if you wish to pursue it. Or maybe you could phrase it better than I. Missed the bandwagoning though.

Charlie. I second that "Ruh?"
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[Anon]

[quote"Ifrinn"]Anon. In reference to why my vote is still on DN. I consider there to be a difference between chaotic evil and lawful incompetant evil. Be he town or be he scum, why would he have asked for a sample town pm? When rationally as town or scum you know your going to get into trouble for asking that question. [/quote]
Exactly.

That is basically my point. I can see more of the times a townie asking a questions for the reasons Deathnote provided rather than a scumbag massively getting into trouble just for the lulz?. What is the scum motivation for doing this? I cant find it.

Tar, is Deathnote scum only for IIoA. Really?

[Anon]

Anon. In reference to why my vote is still on DN. I consider there to be a difference between chaotic evil and lawful incompetant evil. Be he town or be he scum, why would he have asked for a sample town pm? When rationally as town or scum you know your going to get into trouble for asking that question.

Exactly.

That is basically my point. I can see more of the times a townie asking a questions for the reasons Deathnote provided rather than a scumbag massively getting into trouble just for the lulz?. What is the scum motivation for doing this? I cant find it.

Tar, is Deathnote scum only for IIoA. Really?

[Anon]

I could also go for Charlie's head. Who the hell, as town, asks "is this scummy"? after reading a post?

[bv310]

Anyone trying too hard not to look scummy.

[bv310]

Mod: I am ending my V/LA early.

Hey everyone, I am going to read over the past few pages and see what I can find.

Also, any luck on this?

[Ifrinn]

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Anon. As town or scum i have never asked for a sample pm. On one hand its a whole bucket of WIFOM and on the other he could be town. I dont see why tow DN would not have registered "Hm. Maybe this qusetion shouldnt be asked in public and i should pm the mod." considering he has done it before too. On the other hand why would scum DN do it? Town DN has nothing to gain from it imo. Scum DN has meta up his sleeve. But then why would DN have intentionally sabotage himself in the first place in another game prior to this as you say "just for the lulz" Its just head desk all over. As of the moment I would not like DN to be lynched but if he is consistent with his scumminess (because this is what i consider it to be) then i would like him lynched somewhere in the future provided he is not given a PR.

I need to read over the nine pages and compare with my other half.
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[jmj3000]

@bv130: I am still rereading and making notes. My rereads go me reading the wholr topic at a glance, then reading it in detail, then isoing everyone, so it takes me a while.

[bv310]

^Fair enough.

[Pomegranate]

BV, looking at this page, I see that have three posts, two of which regarding a lurker, all three of them one-loners void of scumhunting.

So I iso'd you. I found 18 post (which I willingly admtt is larger than the number of posts I have). But most of your posts are one-liners, and the ones that aren't are only a bit longer. And I mostly find comments on the game, but hardly any real scumhunting. You voted three times in your first four posts, twice for Bob, and once for Deathnote because he requested a sample Role PM (now, I don't mind that vote, but you didn't five

any

explanayion for your vote, only jumping on a popular bandwagon).

Unvote; Vote: bv310

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Please respond in your next post.

[thatguy00]

I hate to be 'that guy' but i'm not sure what "Iso'd" means, checked the wiki, didn't find anything about it, if someone could give me the jist of it, a few more things would make alot more sense to me.

[bv310]

It's either "In Isolation", or "In Sequential Order". Either way, it means going back and rereading all posts a particular player has made.

Pom, I'm not sure what you want me to respond. I already explained my DN vote, and every time I notice something, it's already being discussed. What would you like from me? I can give you my Player-by-player reads, I can do a page by page, or I might just iso someone and see what comes up.

[Pomegranate]

What would you like from me? I can give you my Player-by-player reads, I can do a page by page, or I might just iso someone and see what comes up.

I'd probably be happy with any of those, if you really put in the effort and did some scumhunting.

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@thatguy- At the bottom of the page, it says display post (from):
So if you choose a specific player, rather than all users, you will only see the posts that that player has made in-game. It's called someone's iso, or iso'ing someone (some people write it without the apostrophe) because you are viewing one person's posts in isolation.

[bv310]

I'll try and do a Player-by-player and an iso of someone tomorrow. It's a bit late to start reading now.

[thatguy00]

Ah, how convienant. Thanks. I'll have something to say soon, I'm sure.

[The AI Director]

Glork replaces CSL.

Francis

: I hate lawyers. When are they gonna get done practicing law?

The Fourth Vote Count of Day One

DocPotter (1): Glork
Ifrinn (6): Dr.Cyanide, Socrates, Amished, Anon, DocPotter, thatguy00
Pomegranate (1): xofelf
DeathNote (5): Ifrinn, almightybob, bv310, Charlie, Tarhalindur
bv310 (1): Pomegranate

Not voting (4): DeathNote, jmj3000, Fongoid, thatguy00

[Glork]

Unvote

I might read the game tonight. I'll definitely have some scumbaggoes handpicked and on a silver platter by the end of the day tomorrow.