charter wrote:Wow, Fonz boils the magna wagon down to "magna didn't claim when at L-1" which I'm fairly certain is not a reason anyone is voting him, and ignores all the other reasons people are voting him.
Oh no?
Katsuki random voted. Mac voted based on his secret scumtell that later turns out to be meta that he still won't share.
Untrod Tripod wrote:MacavityLock wrote:I know who needs wagoning. It's Magna! VOTE: Magna
now this is a wagon I can get behind.
unvote LMP, vote Magnaface
UT makes a vote which looks very much to fall into the wagoning for the sake of wagoning/pressure vote class. Not scummy in itself, but very much an early game thing, that doesn't appear to have anything else behind it.
Then your own vote, which you describe as a 'blind leap of faith' in other words, sheeping on Mac.
After that,
LynchMePls wrote:LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH LYNCH!
Unvote
Vote: Magna
Here's a nice change of pace for you Magna, you can be lynched D1 instead of NK'ed N1!
A vote about which you actually had to enquire whether it was a joke. RVS level of reasoning for an L-2 vote. But no, I clearly don't have an actual reason to find LMP scummy.
rajrhcpfreak wrote:
and in light of MoI's quick defense of Katsuki i'll
unvote
vote: MoI
lets see some pressure.
OK, this is a reason. It's a bad one, but we'll take what we can get. Though note 'Let's apply some pressure' argument at L-2. I think he was pretty clearly already under pressure, wasn't he?
Peanutman voted based on two things: he thought LMP and MoI looked like they were distancing, and he didn't like Magna's case on UT. I'm not going to dwell on my predecessor for obvious reasons, make of it what you will. Suffice to say, I don't agree.
Then LMP, having unvoted to go to UT, jumps back on the wagon WITH THE SPECIFIC DECLARED INTENT TO FORCE A CLAIM. So yeah, are you still sure no-one voted on that basis?
In so far as people have attempted to justify the wagon, the one recurring thing seems to be that LMP's vote is so bad it has to be distancing. Surely that's an argument for lynching, y'know, LMP? When someone votes someone else in a manner that looks terrible, I don't tend to assume that it's the one who's the target of the shit vote who deserves lynching because of it.
Katsuki's point that both LMP and MoI are calling UT each other's scumbuddies is interesting, and might be a valid scum connection if they were both using that to get UT lynched, but uh, they're not. LMP is using UT as an excuse to push Magna right up into claim range, and that says UT-LMP to me more than it does LMP-Magna.
Your accusation that MoI asking people to say who the scummiest lurker is somehow equates to insisting that there is exactly one scum there is untrue, fallacious, and scummy. Then you called Magna's reaction an 'extreme overreaction,' on the basis that 34 was clearly a joke. Well, 34 doesn't look like a joke to me, and I don't think it's remotely protown to put someone to L-2 on the basis of a jokevote even if so. It looks more like scum jumping a wagon to me.
So no, I don't see any reason that comes close to justifying having put Magna to lynch -1, and I'm entirely justifying in calling the wagon retarded.
and ignores all the other reasons people are voting him. Then he completely ignores the extreme scummatude of BV.
'I have X as a top suspect, Y doesn't have X as a suspect, therefore I now suspect Y.' Yeah, that's not in any way stupid. Oh noes.
Then he votes LMP saying that he's a better wagon than Raj (which is true) but doesn't say why at all.
This is pretty much a blatant lie. What part of 'Looks lie he's trying to force a claim for its own sake' do you not understand? Here's a question for ya, which alignment wagons because they want to lynch scum, and which one wants to force as many claims as possible?
Gonna have to reread peanutman after this.
'Oh look, Fonz is attacking the scummy wagon I'm on, I know, I'm going to look at his predecessor's actions which I totes didn't suspect at the time and invent a reason to find them suspicious!'
