Street Racers: New York (Game over!)

[njoseph]

Yes, abort the Sly wagon.

[njoseph]

How is it possible that nhammen is not voting?

[njoseph]

That's it, Ztife. If you are not going to vote, then you are deserving enough like Bumi to be voted.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Ztife

[njoseph]

Sorry. Hadn't have time to re-read since the Sixx mod-kill. There's no deadline yet, why is there a rush to vote?

Im not claiming either way. At least not now. Stop role fishing me.

Probably Darth, parama and nj at the top of my scum list now.

if you are not going to claim, then you shouldnt have soft claimed...it makes no sense.

unvote, vote ztife.

Don't criticize me for voting Ztife when you see a reason to do so, too.

[njoseph]

just to be clear..

I want to know what changed since tuesday for you to post the above and vote.

The fact that I realized that Ztife was not voting, and such people are part of the PROBLEM, when there definitely doesn't need to be a problem, so ... yeah.

[njoseph]

Oh.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Bumi

[njoseph]

Frankly, I just want to shamelessly bandwagon, even if I don't have a good reason otherwise to vote: Ztife

UNVOTE

VOTE: Ztife

[njoseph]

If you're fine with sheeping, your fine with sheeping. Do you have a problem beyond the sheeping?

[njoseph]

*you're

[njoseph]

No, this is a different kind of sheeping.
I've tried to understand this post. It makes no sense to me.

Oh.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Bumi

What was this in response to? I don't understand the motive of it in context.

The specific criticism I previously used about his not voting was pointed out by thezmon as not fair, so I unvoted. But then I decided that with my vote needing to be somewhere, a thing I could contribute to was a bigger wagon for getting a lynch on D1; hence my setting in stone a vote on Ztife. I am not changing my vote from the biggest wagon.

[njoseph]

I have Day One fatigue.

[njoseph]

It's because I am the A.D.H.D posterchild of mafia

[njoseph]

I showed tacit recognition of Ztife's posting by unvoting because of realizing that he did so while expressing business or access matters.

[njoseph]

the "doing so" that Ztife did was posting, in case my wording is off

[njoseph]

I had a dream with Meryl Streep as a sitcom character. It was in the Golden Girls sitcom. She was a character called Rue.

But anyway, looks like the ball's in Ztife's court.

[njoseph]

UNVOTE

[njoseph]

If we are now going to lose a doctor, why decide any lynch by involving it with policy?

I'm going back to Bumi

VOTE: Bumi

[njoseph]

Doc loss bad
Cut losses by going with a lynch that's a bit better than policy.

[njoseph]

NJ, who's makes up your scum list?

nhammen
Parama
Bumi

maaaaybe:
curiouskarmadog

[njoseph]

Okay, here. Still gonna wagon.

UNVOTE: SlySly

VOTE: Ztife

Ztife claimed to be Doctor

[njoseph]

I'm a wagoner, Baby(ies). I'm not going to be on a "wagon" with just one other joiner.

I actually believe that my previous list had Mini as more likely to be scum than Aj. FYI, I have seen Aj-scum before.

UNVOTE

VOTE: Mini-Librarian

[njoseph]

Darthe, I didn't say "previous" to imply "out-dated." I said it to mean "preceeding"/"aforementioned." I wouldn't say that Sixx's flip changes my thinking behind that list to the degree that Aj and Mini's positions relative to each other would be changed.

Aj has been seen by me when he was scum. I don't get the same puppetmaster vibe here

[njoseph]

Day day go away.

[njoseph]

You trio of non-voters, don't make me bitch.

[njoseph]

ehow.com writer: " Pregnant female dogs (bitches) still need to be wormed."

[njoseph]

UNVOTE

I neither want to vote Darthe nor Aj.

[njoseph]

VOTE: killerjester

Until further notice.

[njoseph]

Another read from me hot off the press ...
LlamaFluff gives off a town aura

But still, that doesn't mean that I agree with him on Peregrine.

[njoseph]

cop

LlamaFluff certainly won't be gotten on by me, as I cannot sheep the "cop car is too good of a guess" witch-hunting going on.

[njoseph]

Yes, SlySly, jail keeper seems to be a cop car role in the context of this game.

Oops, here's the full quotation from me.

[njoseph]

For the record, it's right below Parama's "infamous" post about jailkeeper = cop car.

[njoseph]

"it" being my 1096

[njoseph]

Okay, I see that (post 1201), but that's not me voting him in a way that has anything to do with "cop car." LlamaFluff has given a town aura, I said. So I'm going with killerjester who was low enough on my "escalator to Hell" and whom was already voted for by CKD, whom I will assume is town for now.

[njoseph]

Because CKD is not looking as scummy as I.K.

[njoseph]

Okay, I see that (post 1201), but that's not me voting him in a way that has anything to do with "cop car." LlamaFluff has given a town aura, I said. So I'm going with killerjester who was low enough on my "escalator to Hell" and whom was already voted for by CKD, whom I will assume is town for now.

I sense that this is an appropriate response to thezmon's questioning about my voting kj, too.

[njoseph]

And I have foreseen that KJ would get more than two votes. Barring TML from the equation, KJ is currently tied in first place with leading wagons and has prospects for becoming a better wagon in the future.

[njoseph]

The power of Fluff-town nullifies me from voting his slot. Consider it a philosophy of --> an F and an A equal a C.

:/ And Fluff-town IS actually one vote ahead of KJ by virtue of thezmon's vote. Say it's not so mon.

[njoseph]

But if this is Llama-scum, do your homework, guys, to demonstrate to me that theorem.

[njoseph]

I like KJ wagon better than Aj wagon by a mile.

It's going to take more to get me to change my vote this time around, vote-hopping as I am.

[njoseph]

If you want me to join a wagon for the sake of wagoning, why does it matter if I give full justification? If that's what you are suggesting.

[njoseph]

Sixx

- I can't seem to find someone's point of him deflecting, however Sixx claims to be primarily townhunting over scumhunting but has provided lists for neither.

TML

- Definite town. Played with him in Mini 1394 and his scumhunting style matches up pretty damn well. I'm bothered by how Nacho has him down as a scumread without any stated reason. Doesn't even mention him specifically in his posts, just kind of slips him into the Fake ID list. Nacho?

oger Thornhill

- Slight town, albeit newbtown.

Parama

- Slight town, genuine scumhunting in his earlier posts. Needs to explain himself more in other posts, like his Apple and Bird reads.

PMysterious

- The definition of IIoA, so slight scum

Epic AJ

- I like him. He's town. I can follow his thought process easily and all of it makes sense.

Robert2424

- Terrible, terrible push on TML. Doesn't explain his scumread on camo. This guy is scum.

That's all I got so far. Might go back and reread later.

VOTE: Sixx but I'd also be sold on a Robert wagon

I don't like people who fill in a town read with "I like him." Seems fillery.
I don't like how he's zeroing in on Sixx tentatively like this, but still makes it a point to say he can't find someone's point about Sixx's deflection, as if it was important in his opinino to be addressed if true.
Definition of IIoA for PMysterious and using that to call him slight scum seems to be hand-wavey.
Robert2424's push is reasonable in light of the wagon we just saw when people got wise to how he was playing
There's a lot of newbtown, why just zero in on Roger?
Killerjester seemed lurkey to me to boot.

[njoseph]

Full disclosure, I have to go and not be back til morrow.

[njoseph]

ninja'd twice
F.F.S, hope about we realize that we are NOT lynching a claimed back-up.

[njoseph]

ignore the "about"

[njoseph]

Okay, the "first aid tool box thing." What's the deal with it ?

[njoseph]

Pere needs to come out and say what he wants to say now.

Sixx was a jailkeeper. So, that makes you a jailkeeper now, unless there are special rules concerning backups and modkills.

I would think Sixx's Mafia alignment would mean that TML as a town back-up would not actually back up Sixx's role

[njoseph]

None are lurking harder than Albus and Pmyst.

YES YES YES INDEED.

[njoseph]

There could be a first aid tool boox for providing auto-part repairing aid with tools in the case of mending CARS. Just saying.

[njoseph]

I mean, use your imagination.

And use spell-check so you don't write "boox" instead of "box":)

[njoseph]

Seriously, I'm right about this. first aid toolbox is S.C. material, what else would a doc car use?

[njoseph]

I saw S.C. material when I played, as my other account, a themed game modded by Coug with the theme of computer devices.

[njoseph]

I was mistaken if I was looking for more cohesiveness in our decisions >_>. OH, my life.

[njoseph]

An onus is on Ztife and the people on the TML wagon to vote/revote.

[njoseph]

Darthe doesn't even have a wagon. I think concentrating on him right now is red herringish.

[njoseph]

Ninja'd.
Can we go into compromise mode for lynching someone?

[njoseph]

Lynch all lame non-voters
Switching my vote

UNVOTE

VOTE: Ztife

[njoseph]

Don't be a lame duck doc, Ztife. But right now you are being non-commital lame duck. Lame duck. lame duck. lame ...

[njoseph]

Don't know what people arecomplaining about. We're only the fourth largest day by post count according to the Wiki records page.

So are we going to lynch Ztife or let him dangle until tommorow.

It would be easier to lynch Ztife if you lended your vote to that wagon.

[njoseph]

I have reconsidered

UNVOTE

VOTE: killerjester

[njoseph]

If anybody is wiling to just plain have a Bumi-null lynch I'm open to it

[njoseph]

If anybody is wiling to just plain have a Bumi-null lynch I'm open to it

What would that give you?

A lynch that's worthy of compromise. Lynch is better than no lynch.

[njoseph]

Fine let's see if other people compromise of their own accord.

[njoseph]

But it's triage. But any hoo, we'll see what happens.

[njoseph]

Think of "triage" as equivalent to "making do"

[njoseph]

Could the people still voting TML tell me why they are still on him?

No. They should unvote from T.M.L and be pardoned for the time being for having voted for him so long.

[njoseph]

The Aj wagon is gathering cob webs.

[njoseph]

What were your first thoughts?

[njoseph]

poster

[njoseph]

It's because I am the A.D.H.D posterchild of mafia

[njoseph]

Thirteen, guys, thirteen.

[njoseph]

That's not so outrageous.

[njoseph]

SlySly doesn't look terribly terrible though.

[njoseph]

Why should killerjester live? <-- Serious question

[njoseph]

As exchange of queens makes a chess game different, so will disbanding from one of these wagons and joining a compromise one make this game different and better.

[njoseph]

This is why deadlines are needed <-<

[njoseph]

oh and i see ztife lurking, he doesn't post, am i surprised?
nope.

What are the chances that the doc protects whom gets killed, anyway? Anybody want to policy lynch Ztife?

[njoseph]

Let's sacrifice a virgin to the volcano already

[njoseph]

Follow my example, people.
Compromise wagon for the better or worse

UNVOTE

VOTE: LlamaFluff

[njoseph]

I think the personal survival theory of mafia (I saw this regarding the discussion about A.A.) was advocated by Hoopla.

Posted with my alt. No big deal.

[njoseph]

Llama's is the largest wagon. Get on him. Default strategy.

[njoseph]

Good roles have already been claimed. No need to give scum more information on what's out there. Don't claim, Llama.

[njoseph]

LlamaFluff lynch > possible Ztife-towndoc lynch. Use your noodles!

[njoseph]

Llama wagon leads at six votes. May it be resolved that it be the break-away winner of the "who gets lynched" game show.

[njoseph]

Eh, I'll go over to a Ztife lynch if it turns out to be the only decent option.

[njoseph]

Unless my computations are off, Llama and Ztife both have six votes.

[njoseph]

Ask Tazaro

[njoseph]

I would use "information lynch" as an excuse on day one as a scum, especially in a large game.

[njoseph]

In case you missed it, there now is a deadline. Tick TOCK

[njoseph]

Also we are now offically the longest D1 on site.

At least people wouldn't be pulling their hair out in bouts of impatience for nothing.

[njoseph]

Of course, Ztife's lynch can be supported in greater numbers with more alacrity if Ztife's not protecting the right individual(s) becomes an assumption.

[njoseph]

UNVOTE

VOTE: Ztife

I don't think this doc's services would be too valuable.

[njoseph]

Even if Ztife is a town doc, which is the risk, that risk is not too much of a risk.

[njoseph]

I should say not too DANGEROUS of a risk.

[njoseph]

I know large games are fun, but gotta move along at some point.

[njoseph]

LlamaFluff's kill could have been a vig. LlamaFluff looked bad for the Ztife lynch.

[njoseph]

Zdenek look town as furk. Probably a scum kill.

[njoseph]

It will be the Bumi wagon for me.

VOTE: Bumi

[njoseph]

I'm lurching to MattP now. I remember that he was killerjester.

UNVOTE

VOTE: MattP

[njoseph]

Hey! You finally have a on the bottom of a post that's not part of the sig.

[njoseph]

Why didn't we kill killerjester day 1?

[njoseph]

Hey, I'm not being wagoned. Is that a problem?

[njoseph]

Am I usually not (being Taz) a mislynch on day 2?