Mini 1749: Classic Rock Mafia: Game Over!

[MattP]

Radja your vote is absolute garbage. It's absolute hypocrisy.

How is it absolute hypocrisy? Radja is posting

[Dwlee99]

Radja your vote is absolute garbage. It's absolute hypocrisy.

How is it absolute hypocrisy? Radja is posting

I think it's the wrong word. But ABR is voting mathilda for not contributing anything so radja votes abr for not contributing anything over mathilda. Idk if that made sense.

[MattP]

I think it's the wrong word. But ABR is voting mathilda for not contributing anything so radja votes abr for not contributing anything over mathilda. Idk if that made sense.

Radja has already explained the discrepancy. Mathilda hasn't posted at all. ABR has posted to say he won't be posting. Radja doesn't like that ABR is active lurking whereas Mathilda is simply lurking.

[Lowell]

VOTE: Albert B Rampage

Vote of the year! Simply a brilliant vote. *showers with praise*

unvote

VOTE: iraonavp

I'm still away from my computer until tomorrow when I get back to work, so this is just a quick read. I realize this is digging a few pages deep, but it stood out.

Iraon's reaction here just looks confusing. Votes without explanation (especially one RL day into the game) aren't that uncommon. Also, he's never mentioned radja before this, so it's not clear why this sarcastic, exasperated "oh not again!" reaction is warranted.

Basically, he doth protest too much. He's trying to win townie points by showing how frustrated he is by less productive players.

[Aeronaut]

I think it's the wrong word. But ABR is voting mathilda for not contributing anything so radja votes abr for not contributing anything over mathilda. Idk if that made sense.

Radja has already explained the discrepancy. Mathilda hasn't posted at all. ABR has posted to say he won't be posting. Radja doesn't like that ABR is active lurking whereas Mathilda is simply lurking.

Phone posting; I saw that whole thing as sarcasm, ABR doing ABR things. I doesn't really matter if he's saying that's what he's doing, it more matters whether he actually just doesn't do anything.

tbh I'd rather tongue-in-cheek ABR than Fakeclaim-Three-Different-Roles-As-Town ABR, as hilarious as that was

[MattP]

Phone posting; I saw that whole thing as sarcasm, ABR doing ABR things. I doesn't really matter if he's saying that's what he's doing, it more matters whether he actually just doesn't do anything.

tbh I'd rather tongue-in-cheek ABR than Fakeclaim-Three-Different-Roles-As-Town ABR, as hilarious as that was

I'm not concerned with ABR, I'm concerned that Dwlee is just jumping onto the Radja-smear-campaign by throwing out a big word like "hypocrisy" when he has no reason to justify saying that.

At this point I don't like Dwlee or Dierface (the two D's)

[Aeronaut]

Phone posting; I saw that whole thing as sarcasm, ABR doing ABR things. I doesn't really matter if he's saying that's what he's doing, it more matters whether he actually just doesn't do anything.

tbh I'd rather tongue-in-cheek ABR than Fakeclaim-Three-Different-Roles-As-Town ABR, as hilarious as that was

I'm not concerned with ABR, I'm concerned that Dwlee is just jumping onto the Radja-smear-campaign by throwing out a big word like "hypocrisy" when he has no reason to justify saying that.

At this point I don't like Dwlee or Dierface (the two D's)

Yea, he sounds like a politician, using buzzwords.

Besides that, I haven't honestly looked at Dwlee, but I'll look at him more when I'm at a computer.

[Aeronaut]

How do you feel about alwaysInnocent?

[MattP]

Of the top of my head I didn't care for him until recently and now I marginally like him with his recent posting

But I'll double check

[MattP]

I'm pretty confidant about AI being town after a reread.

[Aeronaut]

Eh

[Dwlee99]

Hypocrisy is the closest word I could find to describe it.

[Aeronaut]

I need to go read the last few pages more thoroughly, but having skimmed I didn't really care for a lot of his posting

[MattP]

I need to go read the last few pages more thoroughly, but having skimmed I didn't really care for a lot of his posting

I didn't like his posting while it was happening early on, but in iso I think it's pretty clear he's genuinely trying to solve aspects of the game. He doesn't seem even remotely manipulative either in any of his positions in the game (miller response, even if other people had problems with it I don't, and the Radja unvote) or how he responded to the Lowell vote on him.

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Albert B Rampage

Vote of the year! Simply a brilliant vote. *showers with praise*

unvote

VOTE: iraonavp

I'm still away from my computer until tomorrow when I get back to work, so this is just a quick read. I realize this is digging a few pages deep, but it stood out.

Iraon's reaction here just looks confusing. Votes without explanation (especially one RL day into the game) aren't that uncommon. Also, he's never mentioned radja before this, so it's not clear why this sarcastic, exasperated "oh not again!" reaction is warranted.

Basically, he doth protest too much. He's trying to win townie points by showing how frustrated he is by less productive players.

From context, it was clear that Radja's vote was is response to ABR being uncooperative and snarky. I hate unwarranted policy-ish votes on players that are not being particularly anti-town. I understand that unexplained votes are okay, I do that sometimes!

I was genuinely frustrated, how can you distinguish real and fake frustration? Why doesn't your accusation of "trying to win townie points" not apply to any others voting / commenting on Radja?

However, I think (and thought) this more likely indicates Radja as an indignant town-aligned player. I dislike when people play like this, though.

[MattP]

VOTE: Dierfire

[Radja]

VOTE: Albert B Rampage

Vote of the year! Simply a brilliant vote. *showers with praise*

unvote

VOTE: iraonavp

I'm still away from my computer until tomorrow when I get back to work, so this is just a quick read. I realize this is digging a few pages deep, but it stood out.

Iraon's reaction here just looks confusing. Votes without explanation (especially one RL day into the game) aren't that uncommon. Also, he's never mentioned radja before this, so it's not clear why this sarcastic, exasperated "oh not again!" reaction is warranted.

Basically, he doth protest too much. He's trying to win townie points by showing how frustrated he is by less productive players.

From context, it was clear that Radja's vote was is response to ABR being uncooperative and snarky. I hate unwarranted policy-ish votes on players that are not being particularly anti-town. I understand that unexplained votes are okay, I do that sometimes!

I was genuinely frustrated, how can you distinguish real and fake frustration? Why doesn't your accusation of "trying to win townie points" not apply to any others voting / commenting on Radja?

However, I think (and thought) this more likely indicates Radja as an indignant town-aligned player. I dislike when people play like this, though.

What's wrong with pressuring someone who is uncooperative to get the answers you desire?

[iraonavp]

VOTE: Albert B Rampage

Vote of the year! Simply a brilliant vote. *showers with praise*

unvote

VOTE: iraonavp

I'm still away from my computer until tomorrow when I get back to work, so this is just a quick read. I realize this is digging a few pages deep, but it stood out.

Iraon's reaction here just looks confusing. Votes without explanation (especially one RL day into the game) aren't that uncommon. Also, he's never mentioned radja before this, so it's not clear why this sarcastic, exasperated "oh not again!" reaction is warranted.

Basically, he doth protest too much. He's trying to win townie points by showing how frustrated he is by less productive players.

From context, it was clear that Radja's vote was is response to ABR being uncooperative and snarky. I hate unwarranted policy-ish votes on players that are not being particularly anti-town. I understand that unexplained votes are okay, I do that sometimes!

I was genuinely frustrated, how can you distinguish real and fake frustration? Why doesn't your accusation of "trying to win townie points" not apply to any others voting / commenting on Radja?

However, I think (and thought) this more likely indicates Radja as an indignant town-aligned player. I dislike when people play like this, though.

What's wrong with pressuring someone who is uncooperative to get the answers you desire?

Your question was not great to start with, and I get the feeling that ABR keeps his thoughts to himself for the most part.

The point of contention here is almost completely due to playstyle. The fact that ABR still has not given an answer that satisfies you shows that in regards to pressure your vote has achieved nothing! And you seem to be the only one having any real problems about ABR's playstyle, so you will have difficult enacting a policy lynch if you attempt that.

I suggest that you change your vote onto someone you consider likely to be scum-aligned, to preserve the remaining tatters of your credibility.

[Radja]

VOTE: Albert B Rampage

Vote of the year! Simply a brilliant vote. *showers with praise*

unvote

VOTE: iraonavp

I'm still away from my computer until tomorrow when I get back to work, so this is just a quick read. I realize this is digging a few pages deep, but it stood out.

Iraon's reaction here just looks confusing. Votes without explanation (especially one RL day into the game) aren't that uncommon. Also, he's never mentioned radja before this, so it's not clear why this sarcastic, exasperated "oh not again!" reaction is warranted.

Basically, he doth protest too much. He's trying to win townie points by showing how frustrated he is by less productive players.

From context, it was clear that Radja's vote was is response to ABR being uncooperative and snarky. I hate unwarranted policy-ish votes on players that are not being particularly anti-town. I understand that unexplained votes are okay, I do that sometimes!

I was genuinely frustrated, how can you distinguish real and fake frustration? Why doesn't your accusation of "trying to win townie points" not apply to any others voting / commenting on Radja?

However, I think (and thought) this more likely indicates Radja as an indignant town-aligned player. I dislike when people play like this, though.

What's wrong with pressuring someone who is uncooperative to get the answers you desire?

Your question was not great to start with, and I get the feeling that ABR keeps his thoughts to himself for the most part.

The point of contention here is almost completely due to playstyle. The fact that ABR still has not given an answer that satisfies you shows that in regards to pressure your vote has achieved nothing! And you seem to be the only one having any real problems about ABR's playstyle, so you will have difficult enacting a policy lynch if you attempt that.

I suggest that you change your vote onto someone you consider likely to be scum-aligned, to preserve the remaining tatters of your credibility.

Until Albert provides some content, I am considering him to be scum-aligned. So I'm going to keep my vote where it is.
My pressure vote did achieve quite a lot actually. I have seen multiple people hop on a very easy wagon on me. And that wagon includes Albert. So I disagree with your thoughts on the situation completely.

[Aeronaut]

Wtf, this is either discrediting a valid move to make the town more aware, or simply casting it off for something else later.

This is why I'm not fully OK with Dier atm, and at a lesser degree - ABR. (Though, Aero is kind of right about how ABR would claim anything.

Can you show me where ABR discredited your claim?

Radja your vote is absolute garbage. It's absolute hypocrisy.

Well, the thing is... it's really not. While Radja might be voting ABR for something that's a bit hypocritical, Radja himself

is

posting a moderate amount. The real reason it's not a great vote is because there's really not scum motivation for literally announcing "I'm going to do nothing this game", yet Radja jumped on it pretty fast anyway.

However, you're doing the same thing; jumping on the Radja bandwagon because it's the cool wagon to be on, using your own buzzword reason to make it seem like you're adding something to this push, when you're clearly not. You're just riding the coattails.

After having re-read Radja's ISO, I think it more likely that he is town. His posts seem genuine. I do wonder why he has Garmr as a townread. I think I have an idea, but I am not sure if saying it helps the game.

UNVOTE: Radja

What exactly looks genuine to you in his ISO? Like which posts specifically?

I suggest that you change your vote onto someone you consider likely to be scum-aligned, to preserve the remaining tatters of your credibility.

This last sentence looks like strong-arming, and I'm not a fan.

[Mathilda]

Sorry Christmas was a nightmare as usual and didn't realise that the game had started. Just about to go to bed now but will catch up the game when I wake up in about 8 hours.

[Mathilda]

VOTE: Dierfire

I'm surprised to see a naked vote on page 9 when the thread has clearly progressed from RVS.

[Taly]

I have given thoughts on those I have thoughts on. Thats' all there is.

I have also already said I still don't like MattP. I don't tend to change reads that fast either.

Eckgh.... This feels stagnant, but I don't really see scum motivation behind your thinking in looking at your ISO.

Can you explain your Garmr townread?

Also, you said that my miller claim would be dealt with. Why not now, and when is later?

Oh. Dear. My memory is bad then. I will have some thoughts after rereading everything.

Looking forward to it...

VOTE: Dierfire

Wait, what is this vote for? Specifically why now - when Dier hasn't responded to the current votes - and not before?

I suggest that you change your vote onto someone you consider likely to be scum-aligned, to preserve the remaining tatters of your credibility.

I know Aero beat me to this, but this gives me some shitty vibes.

Wtf, this is either discrediting a valid move to make the town more aware, or simply casting it off for something else later.

This is why I'm not fully OK with Dier atm, and at a lesser degree - ABR. (Though, Aero is kind of right about how ABR would claim anything.

Can you show me where ABR discredited your claim?

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Calling me suspicious for something he'd done as scum does not ring well with me.

>>>>

Dwlee... eh. Not really doing anything. Calling out that Radja's vote was bad but then finally unvotes Aero (Which was RVS, I believe?) looks odd.

Have any scumreads? o_o...

P-Edit

Nice to see Mathilda posting now. Waiting for the catch-up post.

[Mathilda]

I subconciously judge based off of avatars, tbh.

That's why I changed my avatar from the last game we played together. It occurred to me that having a political figure as an avatar might attract distrust. So I've gone with the old classic of a horse in a Bavarian dress.

[MattP]

VOTE: Dierfire

I'm surprised to see a naked vote on page 9 when the thread has clearly progressed from RVS.

I guess you've never played mafia

Cool first contribution to the thread btw