Open 645: C9++ - Game Over

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:28 pm

I would like a full massclaim, sorry.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:30 pm

I can't explain it without suggesting scum strategy.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:30 pm

Dudette, seriously.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:33 pm

How do I make this up to you while also not not massclaiming?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:38 pm

Bins, did you ever consider that despite your 'role info' I may know this setup better than you do?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:41 pm

Oh my god >.>

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:43 pm

I know more than you because I know the setup C9++ better than you do.

Massclaiming today is the correct move.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:46 pm

I am going to approach this setup differently than you are approaching it and I can get a huge, safe lock on the game by massclaiming today as opposed to tomorrow.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:48 pm

If there's one thing that I'm good at it's sorting through claims. Please just let me do my thing.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:49 pm

I'm 80-20 that you're town right now.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:56 pm

No, that really needs to not happen please Bins. I need the massclaim to happen.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 4:58 pm

What if Davesaz is scum, Bins?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:07 pm

Davesaz fullclaims or gets lynched, same as anyone else. I'm trying to be nice but that doesn't mean I'm any less set on the massclaim finishing. I have reasons.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 5:44 pm

Ranger should claim last though.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 10:03 pm

No fucking way bucko.

You claim or you get lynched.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:15 pm

In post 2288, Bins wrote:OK. No more claims.

Not sure I like that response but I think I can understand it.

If you are not the Vig/Dav but are a PR, please claim.

RC you realise that is the exact tone that made me get the mistake of claiming. You can't threaten to ring up all our PRs and then lose sight of actual scum. Doesn't make sense man.

No, this massclaim is continuing or I'm lynching the people who don't claim.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:17 pm

Davesaz is not vig and he's not PR, he's scum trying to snake a claim through and afraid to claim early and confscum himself. We are either making him claim FIRST or we are lynching him regardless of his non-vig claim.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:18 pm

We are finishing the massclaim, period. Chop chop.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:26 pm

Let him claim then let everyone else claim, thanks.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:31 pm

'for obvious reasons'

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:32 pm

VOTE: LicketyQuickety

Back to L-1. You can go before Dave. Claim in next post or lynched.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:57 pm

You're either lynching me or I'm making the massclaim finish. If I do get lynched I'm making sure it finishes in twilight so I can get my final readslist out.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 24, 2016 11:57 pm

Zac, you have my permission to hammer LQ since he hasn't claimed.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:13 am

In post 2310, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 2308, RadiantCowbells wrote:Zac, you have my permission to hammer LQ since he hasn't claimed.
Permission? WTF?

Claim then.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:16 am

Regardless of my reads (which are pretty fucking amazing let's be real), regardless of my alignment, I'm the most mechanically skilled player in this game. No one in this game is about to contest that.

Did you ever think that maybe, if you understood the game like I do, you would understand that no matter what was going on the correct move would be to massclaim today?

I don't like you.

Great, because I don't particularly like you either. If you'd rather get lynched than play this game than that's your prerogative, but I am finishing the massclaim or getting lynched trying.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:17 am

Like this isn't a choice. This is the fact that it is objectively the correct move to massclaim today and I'm shocked that Bins of all people who has as much setup info as she claims to hasn't seen it.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:20 am

I don't give a shit what's scummy. I am making the mass claim happen because it's the objectively correct move. I have no qualms lynching you if you're going to stand in the way of a town win.

Why is it the best move for mass claim today? I don't believe you've offered a singly shred of evidence for this.

Explaining it would reduce some of the value of it.

I will tell you what. Claim. If I can't argue an extremely strong objective case for why it was the correct decision after the fact, you can lynch me and I won't trash talk you in postgame.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:23 am

I understand that I am being difficult but I am not trying to be difficult here. I am just trying to win one of my last games. Either I am right about this or scum, just go along with it and make me answer for it later.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:25 am

If you get lynched and are town I vent some of my frustration with how difficult this has been and I am likely to end up in MyLo where the massclaim will end up happening anyway.

If you get lynched and are scum I am fine with it.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:30 am

Okay, well I wouldn't care what you want in general and when you want me dead anyway I am heavily inclined not to give you what you want and would rather just see you QHed tbh.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:33 am

Like when you're either obnoxious sucm or town who is trying to push a policy lynch on the me in my last game it doesn't incline me at all to respect you, take your reads seriously, or want to see you kept alive.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 12:43 am

If you're claiming that your push on me is not in fact a policy lynch, then why is it a thing? Why am I scum, LQ?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:09 am

We're agreeing that you can't blame me for lynching you if you flip town when your only reason for SR me is that I'm 'Scummy' with the s capitalized and you're also refusing to cooperate at all?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 1:14 am

That's not your decision to make when you're at L-1 unless you're willing to be lynched for refusing to cooperate.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:01 am

Ours, because we have the power to lynch you if you refuse to claim.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:47 am

UNVOTE:

Davesaz, you're next.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 2:59 am

VOTE: Davesaz

Claim

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:53 am

I miss Titus

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:42 am

It's you and no one else that I'm looking to catch in a lie, Davesaz. claim.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:47 am

VOTE: Davesaz

I already claimed VT. this is scum.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:48 am

Do I need to claim VT for a 5th time?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:50 am

What do you mean the last doc. rofl.

we can wait for vig to claim sure. APF?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:52 am

Okay, so that's confirmed Bins/Postie scumteam. gg.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:53 am

Wait just in case Ranger claims roleblocker. I don't know what we'd do in that situation but let's wait and see.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:54 am

Oh, sorry. Forgot LQ is also a VT claim.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:54 am

Umm. It sounds like LQ mod errored this unless Ranger claims roleblocker which would be interesting.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:56 am

Oh look every single one of Zac's reads sucked ass.

Ranger is most likely conftown.
Bins is a scumfuck.
APF is town (and holy fuck how did you not figure out that he was the vig)

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:56 am

At any rate, LQ, you're not scum. Postie is.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:05 am

That's true. it could have been a double target; especially since there was no other target.

Daves, who did you target D1? Let's wait for Ranger.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:08 am

I'm pretty sure Ranger claims VT anyway so let's just break this down. If this is T:

RC town
Davesaz town
Bins town
Zac town
APF town
Ranger unknown
LQ unknown
Postie unknown

If this is TTT:
RC town
Zac town
APF town
Ranger town
1 scum between {Davesaz, Bins}
1 scum between {LQ, Postie}

So Postie who I've been wanting to lynch since the beginning is pretty much scum either way.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:09 am

Now let's look at the Texcat votes and see if any of them looks like scum who targeted SK for the nightkill.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:11 am

If you guys all townread me this game is autowin for town.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:13 am

If ranger claims a single letter PR the game is autowon by lynching her because it confirms that the scumteam is Davesaz/Bins

RC I don't want to have another thing where you call me scum and then don't engage me the entire game and wonder what went wrong.
If you think I'm scum, talk to me.

You're scum though.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:27 am

Bins I will just lynch you and not worry overly much about it if you're going to push on me.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:28 am

Postie, I will engage with you for the sake of engaging with you since it's our last game together but there is like no chance that I will push for an LQ lynch before yours.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:32 am

If you think that I'm town, Postie, LQ is confscum fypov. But I'm not losing this game and I'm certainly not losing it to you.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:38 am

APF is confirmed town why are people questioning.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:44 am

I haven't engaged you as of now. Do you really, really want me to? And no, I'm not because I'm pretty certain that you're scum.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:45 am

In post 2367, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm pretty sure Ranger claims VT anyway so let's just break this down. If this is T:

RC town
Davesaz town
Bins town
Zac town
APF town
Ranger unknown
LQ unknown
Postie unknown

If this is TTT:
RC town
Zac town
APF town
Ranger town
1 scum between {Davesaz, Bins}
1 scum between {LQ, Postie}

So Postie who I've been wanting to lynch since the beginning is pretty much scum either way.

From the PoV of me being town you should have the scumteam confirmed as either
LQ/Ranger or LQ/Davesaz or LQ/Bins.

Assuming Ranger claims VT. If she claims PR then scum gets confirmed either way.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 5:56 am

Hi. Can you explain your Bins scumread a bit more?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:04 am

Yes your reads sucked deal with it.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 6:15 am

I mean yes?

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:53 pm

VOTE: Bins

Reads are too trash to live. bye.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 3:57 pm

Bins, if you're town let's never play again.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:16 pm

In post 2436, Bins wrote:RC??

like this is not ok.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:27 pm

like this is really not ok if you're town.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:28 pm

Ranger, Postie, one time only. I swear on Annie that I am town this game. lynch Bins with me.

RadiantCowbells · Mon Jul 25, 2016 4:41 pm

Davesaz, whether you're town or scum it's the right play. you know there aren't two doctors.
APF, I think you'll vote her with me anyway but I can try to sell you as well.

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 26, 2016 8:22 am

No you go away.

RadiantCowbells · Tue Jul 26, 2016 3:25 pm

Bins today, Postie tomorrow, game over*

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 1:28 am

I'm near positive that Smithereens is the 1 scum in the VTs but I'm going to take a sleep and when I wake up get back to this.

I just wanna lynch Bins because she's 1) very likely scum and 2) pissing me the fuck off atm.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:39 pm

Postie, explain your bins read.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:41 pm

Bins, Postie has been deathtunneling you since she replaced in- no reasons. She is still your highest townread. why is that?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:42 pm

Okay, so do you think Bins/LQ is a likely scumteam? Why or why not?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:53 pm

In post 11, LicketyQuickety wrote:WTF is this guy doing at L-2 already?

In post 2475, Zachstralkita wrote:Why is Bins being scumread off of Dunnstral NK spec

Fuck. I should have LOLhammered LQ. At least we would have went down on my terms.

k I'm tired of you and I'm not replacing out of this. dip your head in a bucket of ice cold water and come back to this game.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:55 pm

Zach. I had a bad game. I have a pretty fucking impressive track record overall. I have been right on every flip and confirmation thus far this game, besides Umlaut who I was semi-townreading (thanks APF)

Can you do me a favour and stop trying to be l33t MLG single handed town carry and start working with me, as opposed to against me and/or with scum/bad players like Bins?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:57 pm

Bins, I'm town, I'm a better town player than you, get the fuck over it. I want to lynch you right now REGARDLESS of where my reads in general stand because lynching you means I cannot get mislynched this game.

In other words, you are playing in such a way as either alignment that the ideal play for me regardless of my alignment is to lynch you. AKA, a policy lynch. You don't want that as scum or town. get over yourself.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 4:58 pm

Regardless of your alignment*, although I'm sure you figured out what I meant.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:06 pm

No, I'm saying that I'm not even worrying about you alignment wise because the mathematically correct way to play today is to lynch between Postie and LQ.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:09 pm

The extent of what I've thought about your alignment is that if you're scum it's far more likely that you're scum with Postie than that you're scum with LQ.

I think it's ridiculous that you think your town game is better when I was correct on both the Tex and defended Ira and well yeah.

You're seriously trying to lynch me because you think YOU are the only person capable of winning this game for town? Oh my gosh this has to be a ploy

I don't think my town game is better, I know my town play is better. I've been in this situation plenty of times and I do believe that the correct move is to lynch competing would-be town leaders when they're trying to push on you and you're uncertain of their alignment. Mostly because I'm just better, but y'know.

Bins. You have yet to give any sort of an explanation for why you think that Postie is town. I am still waiting for that.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:11 pm

In post 2507, Bins wrote:I've explained my Postie town read many times

Umlaut voted Smith when the Tex lynch was already happening

And that alone justifies a town read on her? What are your thoughts on literally everything else that the slot has done this game?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:13 pm

Like because let's be real. That's shit tier reasoning, I shouldn't need to tell you that. So either you're shit at town or you're scum. Which is what I've been saying this entire day phase.

Omg RC you are the worst player on this site and so many people would agree with me. Please stop before I replace out because I will have an aneurysm

Okay do it. Literally my choices are to believe that you're an idiot or to believe that you're scum. Why shouldn't I lynch you here?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:15 pm

In post 2510, Bins wrote:Omg RC you are the worst player on this site and so many people would agree with me. Please stop before I replace out because I will have an aneurysm

That's an appeal to population. Just because a lot of people don't like the way I do things and decide that I'm the 'worst player on site' because of it doesn't mean there's any truth to it. I have a phenomenal scumhunting record and went an entire year without losing as scum. Believing that I am not good at mafia is irreconcilable from reality, quite frankly.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:16 pm

In post 2511, Bins wrote:Her associations with Umlaut do and compared to LQ she looks a lot better and tbh far more people look insane

What associatives are you referring to because I think Smithereens associatives with Umlaut are frankly shit. So are LQ's but Smithereens are terrible as well.

Also, what are you referring to when you say 'insanity'? What does it mean, is it a towntell, scumtell, neither?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:17 pm

VOTE: Bins I don't have a great issue with that. You're an impediment to town if you're town anyway.

You can be whatever you want winrate wise I have a pretty good one to but guess what ..

Everyone hates playing with you.

What if I told you that I was quitting? What if I told you further that the reason I am quitting is that I've realized that excelling at mafia means ruining games for people?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:18 pm

I agree that LQ's logic was shit at times: but: what times are you referring to, what instances? Do you have any special commentary on his Umlaut associatives?

You're quitting ?

Thank fucking god never speak to me again!!!

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:19 pm

I don't think that you're stupid in general I just think that you don't really understand what it means to be a good mafia player or we wouldn't even be having this conversation.

Uh his jump on me just now was pretty bad yeah

Except that you got semi-guiltied by a confirmed town. Why is LQ jumping on you under those circumstances bad?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:22 pm

Bins, excelling at town play comes down to 3 things. 1) Scumhunting efficacy. 2) Ability to get town to lynch who you want. 3) Abillity to not get lynched.
Being an ass throws people off their game and makes it easier to read them. Bullying people gets you the lynches that you need to win the game. Emotionally manipulating people keeps yourself alive.
If you take a competitive player of anything and throw them in Mafia, I am always going to be the end result because this is the optimal way to play the game to win.

Your excelling at mafia isn't why you ruin games by the way.

You ruin games because you're a fucking prick lol

Do you know of anyone who knows me outside of mafia who holds this view?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:24 pm

You're missing my point. You wanted me lynched and you couldn't make it happen and if I want beyond anything for you to get lynched today then you will get lynched today.
Regardless of how good you are at scumhunting, you are not an 'excellent town' player, if you are town this game, because you can neither appear sufficiently towny nor project your reads.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:25 pm

Like you can have the scumteam solved right now and it won't change anything: your scumreads aren't getting lynched. If I'm not projecting my reads better through force, why am I doing it better, Bins?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:28 pm

Okay. By that line of reasoning, I am being townread for being 'ridiculous' and not the meanness. Why aren't you adopting the 'ridiculous' characteristics of me to improve your own game?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:30 pm

In post 2541, Bins wrote:Also everyone who doesn't follow you proceeds to get called stupid by you and/or voted.

This isn't a game it's literally just do what RC says in RCS playground

And is that not the optimal way for me to frame the gamestate when I am town, taking for granted that I have highly reliable reads?

BECAUSE IM NOT AN ASSHOLE

You said it was the ridiculousness and not the meanness. Are you conceding that being an asshole is pro-win condition for me?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:31 pm

And no, I'm not a logical thinker. I think that in general approaching the game logically is poor play and easily gamed. I try to understand people, not their posts.

Your ridiculousness = waving your arms around scumreading everyone who doesn't follow you and trying to run the town and bully the town into following you with horrible logic

It's not my style SORRY

Maybe not. But do you or do you not agree that it is helping whatever faction that I belong to win this game?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:39 pm

I want to townread you, I really do.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:45 pm

Both of you stop pls.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:49 pm

In post 2558, Bins wrote:
In post 2547, RadiantCowbells wrote:Maybe not. But do you or do you not agree that it is helping whatever faction that I belong to win this game?
this sealed that you're playing toward the same wincon but damn

If you're scum, yeah. I in fact have a notable tendency to only use faction-neutral terminology like this as town because as scum I correct for it to seem more towny. Take the self meta as you will.

Bins, you're wrong though. You don't know me at all, you know RadiantCowbells my mafia forum persona.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 5:50 pm

In post 2566, Bins wrote:sorry postie I didn't mean to offend you but I'm a little pissed you think I'm personally attacking HIM here

I want you to take a break and then reread everything I've said. The point I was trying to make isn't that you're dumb it's that you don't understand how I approach the game.
I did call you an idiot before it got personal but that was just standardized posturing. I'm just trying to help you understand me so that you realize that it's not personal at all.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:00 pm

My read is that I'm not sorting the doc claims today because there's a confscum in you and LQ.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:03 pm

I'm NGL, I'm at the point where I'm considering replacing out because I am prioritizing not having an unpleasant experience over my win condition right now.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:09 pm

In post 299, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 297, davesaz wrote:
In post 293, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 292, davesaz wrote:
In post 290, LicketyQuickety wrote:
In post 277, LicketyQuickety wrote:
Why would Dunn panic so easily?
Let the record show dave never answered this.
Let the record show that I didn't notice it.
Sometimes they do, sometimes they don't. Also note the "and others".
Why didn't you notice it? Sometimes who does what? "and others" I was asking you not others.
1. Because it came in while I was posting a reply to an earlier post. I hit preview to verify the tags on what I wrote but didn't notice another new post had come in. After that point it was no longer new, so when I hit the "new posts" icon for the thread it positioned at a later point. Before you get snippy about this, I never lie about RL things like the mechanics of how I read threads and post.

2. Sometimes the target panics, sometimes they don't.

3. I previously said that I want to see what the target does, and what others do. It's interesting to see who ignores it, who agrees with it, and who overreacts. (that would be you btw)

4.
Why are you taking such an interest in an exchange that doesn't affect you?
(I think I know the answer and I'm not scumreading you atm, but still interested in what you actually say)

Pedit @farmer: Yeah, once in a while there is an exception to the "Ranger's reads are relative" rule.

Pedit2: And slip ups like that can be a scumtell for Ranger, if indeed it is a slip. She makes a point of doing the read list thing as either alignment. Caution though, I hard scumread her for unnaturally strong town reads in a previous game and she turned up town... gonna want a reason for them being in the same tier, and a good one.
Fair enough. This was a good response and makes me feel a little better about you.

4) I am taking an interest in what doesn't involve me because this particular thing caught my eye and I think its good to investigate it. I do not, however, even notice everything that is going on in games and if I'm being honest, I miss a lot actually.

This doesn't feel like SvS.

That conclusion alone can create an autowin situation.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:10 pm

I retract that claim. I'll wait for something better before I start making conclusions.2

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:11 pm

I'm going to take a break from this game and meta dive Bins and see if her AtE is as big of a towntell as she claims.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:14 pm

http://forum.mafiascum.net/viewtopic.ph ... 3#p7068464

Very AtEy scumgame.

One of many. Yeah, AtE not a towntell for you Bins. sorry

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 6:51 pm

VOTE: Postie

Bye scum

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:40 pm

I can't imagine Town!Postie being happy to just sit here while I'm saying that you're confscum.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:45 pm

Both you and your predecessor are incredibly scummy in so many different ways and your Umlaut associatives are awful.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:47 pm

Okay, well I also think that you're incredibly scummy.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:49 pm

Unwillingness to fully commit to your RC townread.
The way you sidelined the fight between me and Bins.
Your Bins scumread not really making much sense and feeling forced.
PoE between yourself and LQ who while playing awfully doesn't really seem to be scum.
The way you seem to be just trying to get me to lead the way on lynching people.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:51 pm

This feels like way back when in the original you!scum game where you just threw in things from the sidelines and tried to make me muscle through all the mislynches for you.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 7:53 pm

You can keep saying things are untrue and NAI but that's not going to make me not lynch you.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:04 pm

Another thing: I'm near positive Ranger is town. Both Davesaz and Bins are trying to push the LQ lynch over your lynch. That doesn't incline me to want to lynch LQ over you.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Jul 27, 2016 8:06 pm

Like i want to lynch LQ on policy because if he's town he's playing so incredibly, incredibly bad: but everything points to you being scum, Postie.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:41 am

In post 1151, Bins wrote:I didn't even think Dunn was THAT town in comparison to others by the end of the day : /

And you docced him?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:43 am

Umlaut was lookign for somewhere else to go vis a vis the Davesaz lynch.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:44 am

Funny cuz we now got guaranteed 1 of my uberscumreads scum and 1 of my leantowns scum.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:46 am

yee tho bruh smithereens such scumfuck.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:47 am

In post 1318, Smithereens wrote:RC, your reads are pretty much categorically incorrect. I don't know why because you haven't said anything about them, but it really does look like you're trying to diametrically oppose what we already know for whatever reason... >.>

In post 1319, Smithereens wrote:what is that called? When a replacement disagrees with everything in order to create new content etc. It might not have a name. I'll call it RCism. Or just racism maybe.

wtf no. shoo.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:56 am

You're like the converse gut read of Ranger and neither gave any reasons when I asked why..

Also you're wrong, but that will be more clear in a future Day phase O.o

This read like a PR soft, but no PR soft occurred.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 6:58 am

Postie why'd you have to kill Titus

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:00 am

I guess* both doctors could be legit but Ranger's still town in that instance.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:25 am

In post 2622, Bins wrote:Let's do LQ

This is postie town for sure

Bins, you are telling me what Postie town for sure is. There is something really, really, really wrong with this picture.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:28 am

I will try a different tac. How many games have you played with Postie? How many games have you reviewed? Have you hydraed with her? Do you know her offsite?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:49 am

How many games of meta did you review though?

As of my count Postie has played 25 completed games on this site. As of my count, I played in 16 of them and modded a further 2 of them. I am intimately familiar with a further 3 games that she has played.
Furthermore, Postie has only ever hydraed with one player to my knowledge and that is me. I have played 3 games with her under the name Music and Mail.
We have also played a ton of group skype mafia and also a decent amount of one on one mafia whereby 50% of the time it's double town, 25% each person scum, and you have to guess the other's alignment.

So like when you're sitting there telling me that something's 'Postie's scum meta!' and it disagrees with my reads and you're not explaining it I am going to dismiss it out of hand. understood?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:55 am

I was scumreading Smith, so that's not exactly going to change any PoVs for me.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 7:59 am

I'm pretty sure if you had actually metad either of us you'd be aware we're in a ton of games together so this isn't doing you any favours.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:06 am

Cut the crap.

Regardless of your alignment I do not believe whatsoever that you have attempted to meta myself, postie, or anyone else. If you want to change that you need to provide some hard facts and comparisons.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:13 am

I scumread Postie based on meta. I scumread her based on spreadsheet result. I scumread her based on several thing she's said that she wouldn't say as town. I scumread her based on associatives.
I scumread her based on Smithereen's associatives. I scumread her based on Smithereen's actions. I scumread her based on setup spec and I scumread her based on the way other people act around her.
I scumread her because I think LQ is way more likely to be town. I scumread her for avoiding the fight between us. I scumread her for the way that she's interacted with me here.

In short, I have so many reasons to think that she's scum that I'm beyond reconsidering that read barring something absolutely insane.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:13 am

How the fuck is she approaching you? She's not approaching you at all just calling you scum. Your read on her makes even less sense than your read on me when you scumread me.

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:32 am

I'm just wondering. Did you ever think that maybe my read on Postie is more accurate than yours given everything that I told you above?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 8:43 am

Do you wear enough deodorant?

RadiantCowbells · Thu Jul 28, 2016 10:31 pm

Hi ranger thoughts

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 29, 2016 5:17 pm

My vote isn't changing.

RadiantCowbells · Fri Jul 29, 2016 8:08 pm

Bins, behind door #1: you lynch Postie.
Behind door #2: I vote you.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 8:42 am

If it's a roleblocker flip both doctors are on me. You seem to be missing that neither doc is conftown and I want to be alive to sort the game in that instance.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:36 pm

VOTE: Bins

if that's how we're playing this game I'm voting in the doctors.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:36 pm

In post 2676, Zachstralkita wrote:Is there a reason we can't speedlynch RC and call it a day?

God you are fucking terrible.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:37 pm

I'm checked out of this game. No one here deserves for me to continue putting in effort.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 3:59 pm

In post 2680, Zachstralkita wrote:
RadiantCowbells wrote:
In post 2676, Zachstralkita wrote:Is there a reason we can't speedlynch RC and call it a day?
God you are fucking terrible.
GOTEEM

Got what? you think this is my scum reaction or do you take pride in making me even more tired of your terrible performance as confirmed town?

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:21 pm

Okay, so here's how this game is going to go. I am not willing to lose this game and I am not replacing out of this either.
Postie is getting lynched today and following her lynch, IF it's a Roleblocker flip (in which case only 1 doc per 'conftown' is needed and our only conftowns are APF/Zach) one doc is on APF and the other is on me.
I literally guarantee you that scum is not going to kill Zac because of how poor his reads and play in general are this game and frankly it would benefit town if it were to happen so I want him left open.

I am going to do what it takes to make that happen. If you think that I've been unpleasant or a bully thus far in this game you have seen absolutely nothing yet.
So if you want to get into a pissing contest where I establish just how much more valuable I think me being alive than any of you players, including the conftowns, is: be my guest.
Otherwise just do what I say and we'll get a quick town win and you can cry later about how unfair it is that I monopolize the game even though my reads and ability clearly justify it.

Oh: and the reason I never lost games last year but I have this year is because I'm not trying to the same extent this year. If I'm scum this game you are not lynching me, period.
Whether or not I'm available to be targeted is only pertinent as town because I've already won this in any scumteam as scum and I'm not getting lynched. And if I'm town, yes it's a fucking horrible idea to leave me in the open.

Make up your mind whether you want to have this fight but I'm going to end up getting my way one way or the other so all you're doing is making the game less pleasant for all parties involved.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:28 pm

I thought you already knew that I'm an egoist who cares more about winning than having fun.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:31 pm

I will enable Postie's hammer when 1 of the doctors has given their word that they will doc me if Postie flips roleblocker.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:32 pm

Sorry that your slot wasn't town Postie.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:35 pm

This is strictly because this is my last game. I would be earthshakingly shocked if you were town here, and also kinda pissed at you for some of the stuff that I can't imagine being from town!you.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:53 pm

Postie I get that you want to win but just stop. You did not, as town, play this game like you did, period.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 4:54 pm

And no matter what you did or did not do it doesn't change the fact that Smithereens is obvious Umlaut scumpartner.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:28 pm

In post 1815, Postie wrote:I'll try and get some catch-up stuff in before threadlock.
In case I inexplicably die - LQ is town. RC is probably also town but I have no idea why.

Both the way you declare that I'm obvtown right before a nightphase where you are not doctor (you wouldn't have done this as town) and the way you make excuses for it.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 5:56 pm

You did though. You put me as obvtown instead of not stating your read on me.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:06 pm

That's my point. You've entirely missed the meat of my case against you because you're not town. If you were town then you would understand what I was concerned about here.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:16 pm

In post 2704, Postie wrote:I'm town and I don't. Unless you mean that I'd not give my read on you in case it made either of us more likely to be nightkilled, in which case... I was focused on putting my thoughts together so I didn't think that far ahead?

Bingo. And no, if you came to that conclusion in the newbie game and in the mini theme that we both lost you most certainly would have here.

And the scum motivation here is what? Buddying you?

The scum motivation is that you simply didn't think of it because you weren't thinking of my nightkill as something to be avoided via your play.
Same goes for the 'if I somehow got NKed' like bullshit you're plenty NKable. No reason for you to think that there's no way that you're getting NKed.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:28 pm

VOTE: RC

do it.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:30 pm

falling all the way out of love with mafia.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:36 pm

Oh look that's my 100% tell in action.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:42 pm

I mean I have several 100% tells on you and I've seen 3 of them. But I meant my 100% tell on myself.

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 6:58 pm

VOTE: Davesaz

Bye!

RadiantCowbells · Sat Jul 30, 2016 7:17 pm

Davesaz's vote feels really opportunistic.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 3:59 am

Like Ranger's probably town. So there's a guaranteed scum between POstie/LQ and also between Davesaz/Bins.

And just to think of a universe where any of them are town makes me just so sad and despondent and without drive to participate in this farce of a game.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:01 am

Postie, I have a question. You're scum, I know. don't play games with this answer.

Do you think it's more right of me to just stop trying to carry this shit town and let them lose the game like they want or to be an asshole to try to win them the game?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:04 am

Like in spite of my desire to rub how shit whoever is actually town in this game has been playing I just don't want to lose and let Titus down but I'm so incredibly weary of the players in this game.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:10 am

In post 2655, Bins wrote:so LQ gets to l-1
squirms out of it
and now people r voting postie?

In post 2653, Bins wrote:omg this lynch is giving me so many bad feelings LQ is scum

In post 2651, Bins wrote:this game is so frustrating no one is saying anything of value except like Dav

In post 2645, Bins wrote:Too many people OK with postie and not enough OK with LQ
why am I always alone

In post 2642, Bins wrote:God I should have just voted him earlier so much regret

In post 2641, Bins wrote:I don't see how you can't understand my town read

Especially when I've been calling LQ scum all game and the only time he was town to me is when he was the only person making sense

In post 2640, Bins wrote:Her baseless bad logic is the same thing you and LQ have been doing

I think she'd at least try if she were scum
This is too much

Like what the hell is this Bins. I have played in over twenty games with Postie and on top of that have spent entire nights just reading her games to establish my meta.

You're going to come in here and whine and try to emotionally manipulate and guilt us into taking your reads seriously when frankly we have no reasons to take your reads seriously?

This is why I think you're scum. And it's sad because I desperately want you to be town because I want to believe you don't pull this shit as scum but I also desperately want you to be scum because I really want to believe you're not so terrible that you'd act like a crybaby that people aren't taking seriously your Postie read when we have no reason to take it seriously.

When you've developed a spreadsheet of tells where you can take Postie's posts in a game and accurately determine her alignment with only 2 false results, act like this.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:10 am

In post 2728, Postie wrote:Still town but as for your question, that's a false dilemma. You can be pro-town in ways that don't involve being an asshole.

I don't have any other abilities to change these people's minds when they don't respond to reason nor to from the heart appeals.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:14 am

That's my issue with you. That frankly shouldn't be your decision to make. Does the fact that I have an ungodly amount of experience with her not enter your skull?

You feel like the kind of person that regardless of circumstance will never act in a way that contradicts your own tentative beliefs because someone else clearly knows better, and that's not a compliment at all.

Assuming you're town, but your persistent brickwallness on this topic makes me #xfileswanttobelieve that you're scum.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:18 am

Bins, I'm pretty fucking sure Ranger is not scum. So, IF you're town, there is 3 guaranteed scum in Davesaz/LQ/Postie.

You're townreading the fuck out of Davesaz/Postie and that means there's something wrong with your reads

Yes, I can still be wrong. God knows that I can still be wrong. But I'm far more likely to be right and you should know it and act on it.

For all that people declare me to be stubborn I listen to other people. I follow their cases. If you had some sort of good reason to think Postie was town I'd listen to you. But you don't.

*3

This isn't how you'd play if you were town and you know it. Come on.

Have you considered that maybe those things aren't working because of how you're approaching them? For example, Bins isn't the one you need to convince of her scumminess.

I'm not trying to convince Bins that she's scummy, I'm just trying to bridge the empathy gap that clearly exists between me and everyone else in this game.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:19 am

Like, even IF you're right and LQ is scum: do you really think that the scumteam is LQ and Ranger? Because there's still a scum in Davesaz/LQ.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:28 am

Like I am literally begging you for a reason to believe that Postie is town. Postie being town would make me 10* more interested in playing this game. Postie as conftown means confscum and supermotivated me.

I don't see it though and it's going to go through if you don't convince me otherwise.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:37 am

In post 2739, Postie wrote:
In post 2736, RadiantCowbells wrote:This isn't how you'd play if you were town and you know it. Come on.
I can't be a combination of frustrated and lighthearted without being scum? ._.
Like I mostly have no clue why you're scumreading me but I feel like you've gotten this base scumread on me from something that could be alignment-indicative a lot of the time but isn't here because context and then you've confbiased your way to blowing it massively out of proportion by scumreading me for silly things like this every other page.

In post 2736, RadiantCowbells wrote:I'm not trying to convince Bins that she's scummy, I'm just trying to bridge the empathy gap that clearly exists between me and everyone else in this game.
Then
talk
to everyone else in the game. Without insulting them.

I'm seeing absolutely no frustration from you here, no emotional involvement. Just you persistently critiquing the way I'm playing the game in general terms without actually going into the meat of what's going on in terms of me versus you. That's so unimaginably different from your town meta, ever.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:40 am

Like it's probably the last game you're ever going to play with me and you're not even really fighting your mislynch. Just repeating your reads in an 'I have a plan for how I'm gonna be interpreted after my death!' sort of way and no real effort to establish a dialogue with me. Literally the most passive, distant play I have ever seen from you.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:43 am

You are giving me advice for how to convince other people to lynch you for crying out loud when this is probs our last game and tomorrow's lynch would most likely be me over LQ. You're saying this is town you?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:46 am

And come on. That asking hte mod to give you your role PM? You knew your slot was scum from the moment that you replaced in.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 4:56 am

I don't read either frustration or exasperation into your posts. Not like I did and incorrectly ignored it in UT's game. And I'm not lynching Bins today?

If you're as confident as you claim that I'm town you should want to lynch LQ because his flip would make me seriously reconsider scum!you regardless of what he flipped.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:07 am

In post 1880, Postie wrote:RC, if town's awful enough to lynch you today then your reads will likely be ignored after you're dead.

Also, this is a very, very weird thing for you to say as town to me when you think that I'm town. I still don't see any exasperation in your posts, nor frustration.

You replaced into my #1 scumread though so I'm not sure why you are doing this.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:18 am

No, the opposite. I have not felt on any point this game like you were trying to change my read on you. Where's the insistence on engaging with me and the trying to get me to not vote you and work with you for a day from UT's game?

It basically felt to me like you were ready to take the lynch lying down and weren't really trying to fight it. And I've never felt like you were trying to really change my read on you.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:25 am

In post 2691, RadiantCowbells wrote:This is strictly because this is my last game. I would be earthshakingly shocked if you were town here, and also kinda pissed at you for some of the stuff that I can't imagine being from town!you.

In post 2695, RadiantCowbells wrote:Postie I get that you want to win but just stop. You did not, as town, play this game like you did, period.

And furthermore, you didn't even react to this. I can't imagine town!you not being at the very least jolted by this coming from town!RC.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:37 am

And you don't feel the need to vocalize it? Like y'know, say that I shouldn't say shitty things like that? because I was reaction testing but I found it really strange that you just shrugged it off.
And in general you're paying lip service to disapproving it but you're really not taking a strong stance on the RC being a nice person thing. Hasn't been much bite behind your bark.

And yeah: you're putting the impetus on me to put my scumread on you into a nice neat little box so you can refute it point by point. you know that that's not how my reads have ever worked.
I wasn't biting and you weren't doing anything to prevent your lynch. What was the plan, come up and say 'welp you were wrong on me again' in postgame when I'm not even gonna play anymore?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 5:40 am

Like hell, you were just in the game with Accountant. He put the impetus on me engaging my reads and didn't take an active role in trying to change my read and cite reasons to townread him. What happened?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 6:03 am

Has this been how I've reacted to stuff in the past? Like ever? Are you kidding me.
I have absolutely no clue how you could have been in Word Sneak with me and then convince yourself that that would be how town-Postie would react.

I would like an explanation of this bullet point.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:18 am

I'm going to read for Davesaz/LQ and Davesaz/Postie. This feels really, really, really, really wrong coming from Davesaz. I felt like he was heavily townreading me based on earlier responses.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 11:27 am

W/e I'm tired and out of energy for this game.

VOTE: LQ

If this is town then town deserves the loss that will follow. I'm fine with scum winning this just on account of how shitty whoever is actually town here is playing, assuming that Postie is scum, and if she's not scum then we just lynched scum anyway, yay! Dunn getting double targeted is at least conceivable, Davesaz was one of my biggest scumreads heading in today, and his play here just feels wrong where Bin's AtE feels more like she is either incapable or unwillling to bridge the empathy gap with me. At any rate it basically comes down to right now either I am sufficiently fucking fed up with how bad town is playing or I'm wrong about who the scum is, and I'm happy lynching LQ under these circumstances.

Bins, you're on me if this flips roleblocker. Just for the love of Annie, humor me. Davesaz on APF. If LQ flips town, which he probably-ish will, I'll save what I want to say for postgame when I will in fact be conftown.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:14 pm

DAVESAZ YOU ARE LITERALLY TRYING TO CONVINCE ME THAT I AM SCUM. YOU ARE TRYING TO CONVINCE SOMEONE YOU ARE SAYING IS SCUM TO VOTE FOR TOWN REASONS. STOP. YOU GET NO SAY.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:19 pm

That wouldn't have happened barring a votecount error though. I think the hammer should not stand.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:20 pm

We already got town mislynched because of a mod error on day 1. I think it's beyond unfair to have Postie get lynched because of another one, especially if she's town.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:24 pm

I am calling for a draw if Postie is to be hammered and replacing out if that does not occur. Two lynches occurring due to mod errors in the same game is not okay with me regardless of flip. Postie should not be hammered.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:24 pm

APF, just vote LQ with us. Zac or Ranger will hammer. easy.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:25 pm

In post 2774, Zachstralkita wrote:
In post 2488, Zachstralkita wrote:VOTE: Postie

RadiantCowbells wrote:We already got town mislynched because of a mod error on day 1. I think it's beyond unfair to have Postie get lynched because of another one, especially if she's town.
iraonavp was lynched by a hammer that wasn't actually a hammer.

This would be just the mod miscounting, because my vote was actually genuine.

An incorrect votecount leading to an unintended hammer is absolutely a mod error. I am not okay with it.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:27 pm

The proper way of handling this is to not make the mod error in the first place. Everything beyond that is shades of gray but I will not continue to play this game if Postie is hammered here.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:29 pm

Umm, it was unintended though. APF, was the vote intended to be a hammer or not? Easy answer to the question.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:30 pm

Oh, and I've seen precedent for the vote not being counted in this situations. I can pull it up if you want but I think this comes down to what the listmods say as opposed to what I do.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:33 pm

Okay, but you didn't intend to hammer. So it wasn't a hammer. Maybe I'd have unvoted. Fact is we never got the chance to play the actual game out so we're left with what we're left with.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:35 pm

If Zac's vote wasn't counted in that votecount nor promptly corrected it should be treated as if it were never made because the game continued as if it were never made. That's the only fair action.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:37 pm

Like, you can speculate about the game where Zac made that vote all you want but it isn't the game that we played out and for us to be forced to retroactively change the way the game actually played out because the mod errantly didn't count a vote and lead to an unintended hammer is to deny us both the agency of playing out the actual game and the agency of deciding our lynch as a town. We didn't play the game as if Zac's vote was made so it wasn't made.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 12:54 pm

Look. The votecount error thing absolutely does suck for whichever faction Postie does not belong to.

But the fact of the matter is that N_M because of his error either has to choose to not count a vote or lynch a player who no one intended to lynch. Not counting the vote does not deny town as a collective the ability to play out the game day and get to an intended lynch together as mafia is meant to be played. Lynching a player whom no one intended to lynch takes that away from us and further unfairly swings the game in favor of Not!Postie faction.

We can still lynch Postie today if we want to if the vote is not counted. We cannot still lynch LQ today if the vote is counted. One decision lets us play the game, the other doesn't.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:26 pm

In post 2790, Postie wrote:VOTE: LicketyQuickety

<3

That's it?

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:32 pm

idk, maybe some kind of reassurance that I'm doing the right thing? I'd rather lose by my own choices than win by a mod error but I can still vote you again.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:36 pm

Not a fan of you hammering when I was just about to switch wagons again.

RadiantCowbells · Sun Jul 31, 2016 2:37 pm

That's a scumclaim I guess. whatever, with the way the rest of town was playing.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:21 am

I got worn down by Bins's relentless whining.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:21 am

VOTE: Postie

bye.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:23 am

Davesaz, care to explain why you quickhammered town to 'check if RC was right' when I never thought LQ was scum?

RadiantCowbells · Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:28 am

And Bins, Postie was scum. I told you Postie was scum off of a massive pool of meta knowledge wherein I've played more games with her ever and you had going for your incessant immature bitching and whining... nothing.

RadiantCowbells · Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:32 am

Town doesn't deserve this win either way. Whichever of Bins and Davesaz is town should literally never fucking open their mouths again.

VOTE: RadiantCowbells

RadiantCowbells · Wed Aug 03, 2016 6:33 am

There you go Postie are you happy? you replaced into a slot I knew was scum and ruined my last game for me by doing so.