Mini 1863: Voting Mafia (Abandoned)

[KainTepes]

VOTE: THE MM
HURT: Zefriend
HEAL: Jason

pretty sure at least two of these are SCUM,,

[Ircher]

Day 2 VC #4

BTD6_Maker
Vote (1) - BTD6_Maker
Hurt (2) - BTD6_Maker, Zefiend
Heal (1) - BTD6_Maker
BulletNLynchproof
Vote (0) -
Hurt (0) -
Heal (0) -
Secret Agent Jin
Vote (0) -
Hurt (1) - Jason
Heal (1) - Bullet
The MM

Vote (5) (H-1) - Gamma, Kain, Eggman, Zefiend, Jin

Hurt (0) -
Heal (0) -
Eggman
Vote (0) -
Hurt (1) - Gamma
Heal (1) - Eggman
Gamma Emerald
Vote (0) -
Hurt (0) -
Heal (1) - Jin
Tywin Lannister
Vote (1) - Tywin
Hurt (2) - Tywin, Bullet
Heal (2) - Tywin, Jason
JasonWazza
Vote (0) -
Hurt (0) -
Heal (1) - Kain
Not_Mafia
Vote (1) - Not_Mafia
Hurt (1) - Not_Mafia
Heal (2) - Not_Mafia, The MM
KainTepes
Vote (0) -
Hurt (1) - The MM
Heal (0) -
ɀefiend
Vote (3) (H-3) - Bullet, The MM, Jason
Hurt (3) - Kain, Eggman, Jin
Heal (2) - Gamma, Zefiend

Hammer Threshold

With 11 alive, it takes 6 to hammer!

Deadline

Day 2 ends on January 15, 2017 5:30 PM EST or in (expired on 2017-01-15 17:30:00).

Mod Notes

1 day added for New Year.
Moderator V/LA December 31.
BTD6_Maker V/LA December 26 to January 5.

A minimum of 1 post of decent quality (as determined by the moderator) is expected every 4 days.

Eggman V/LA for up to 2 weeks.

A minimum of 1 post of decent quality (mod discretion) is expected every 4 days.

I'm gonna go ahead and say that there is a decent chance that errors will make their way into VCs. If you notice anything wrong, please inform me asap. (Note: The voting history will likely be the more accurate of the two).
Ignoring 167.

Spoiler: Current Voting History

Day 2

Bullet
Vote: Zefiend == Zefiend
Hurt: Eggman --> Tywin
Heal: Tywin --> Jin
Jin
Vote: Zefiend --> The MM
Hurt: Not_Mafia --> Zefiend
Heal: Gamma == Gamma
The MM
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Kain
Heal: Not_Mafia
Eggman
Vote: Jason --> The MM
Hurt: Jin --> Zefiend
Heal: Eggman == Eggman
Gamma
Vote: The MM
Hurt: Eggman
Heal: Zefiend
Jason
Vote: Zefiend
Hurt: Jin
Heal: Tywin
Kain
Vote: Not_Mafia --> The MM == The MM
Hurt: Jason --> Zefiend == Zefiend
Heal: The MM --> Jason == Jason
Zefiend
Vote: Jin --> The MM
Hurt: Bullet --> BTD6_Maker
Heal: Zefiend == Zefiend

Spoiler: Past Voting History

Dawn/Day 1

BTD6_Maker
Vote: Jason
Hurt: Kain
Heal: Bullet
Bullet
Vote: BTD6_Maker --> BTD6_Maker
Hurt: Vedith --> Kain
Heal: Kain --> Tywin
Jin
Vote: Drealm
Hurt: Gamma
Heal: Realeo
The MM
Vote: Drealm / Kain
Hurt: Tywin
Heal: Not_Mafia

Realeo
Vote: Tywin --> Eggman
Hurt: Jason --> Tywin
Heal: Bullet --> Jason

Eggman
Vote: Gamma --> Drealm
Hurt: Bullet --> Bullet
Heal: Jin --> Eggman
Gamma
Vote: Eggman
Hurt: Jason
Heal: Kain
Tywin
Vote: The MM
Hurt: Vedith
Heal: Eggman
Jason
Vote: BTD6_Maker --> Drealm
Hurt: Bullet --> BTD6_Maker
Heal: Drealm --> Kain
Not_Mafia
Vote: Drealm
Hurt: Eggman
Heal: Jin
Kain
Vote: Gamma --> Tywin --> Not_Mafia
Hurt: Jason --> Jason --> Tywin
Heal: Kain --> Gamma --> Gamma
Zefiend
Vote: Tywin --> Drealm
Hurt: Gamma --> Realeo
Heal: Zefiend --> Zefiend

[KainTepes]

WHY are you making this sad face,

No pagetop
~Ircher

[Secret Agent Jin]

I don't see a reason zefiend should be unvoted. If he is town, he his playing against his wincon, especially given that since he claimed he is a double voter which isn't *that* valuable IMO. If he was something more powerful like a full sensor I could buy it.

Explain how claiming my role is playing against a town win-con please.

Secondly, you are either ignorant or scum. Double weight on my votes is exceptionally powerful in a game literally predicated on VOTING.

Furthermore, it is now apparent that the only "good reasons" for unvoting me relied on my role-claim. You are not even bothering to address the logic and arguments in my posts.

Lastly, you have seemingly accepted Eggman's claim but have failed to grasp elementary maths that suggest either Jin or MM is Mafia, assuming that Eggman's ability works as theorized.

When MM flips scum you can die next.

I do want to point out that my full weight of 1 was on Dreal when he was hammered. You (zefiend) ninja'd me and hammered THEN i pulled a 1/2 vote off him. If i was scum then Eggman would have had an extra 1 weight in his scum census.

[Ircher]

Kain hammered.

Edit: Nvm, sorry.

[ɀefiend]

I do want to point out that my full weight of 1 was on Dreal when he was hammered. You (zefiend) ninja'd me and hammered THEN i pulled a 1/2 vote off him. If i was scum then Eggman would have had an extra 1 weight in his scum census.

OK thanks for clarifying. That makes it clear that MM is scum then.

[Not_Mafia]

VOTE: TheMM
VOTE: BTD
VOTE: zefiend

[Not_Mafia]

Kain why did you do that?

[KainTepes]

i didnt, my vote was always on THE MM,,, i was just changing my HURT and HEAL

[KainTepes]

VOTE: TheMM
VOTE: BTD
VOTE: zefiend

WTF,, why three votes,, no hurt heal???

[Tywin Lannister]

Can I get a replacement please?

The simple fact of the matter is that regardless of this being a bastard game, every question I've asked about the game mechanics went unanswered. I find no enjoyment in playing a game that isn't explained to anyone. This entire game is pointless. The vote count is a mess that makes no sense either. Nobody has a clue what their votes are doing. I have no idea what hurt or heal means, or why it's even used over simply voting three times. Nothing makes sense, and without any real explanations from the mod, I have no real interest in playing. Plus, I play on my phone, so trying to vote three times (while not knowing what any of it actually means) is a pain that isn't worth it. The game mechanics need to be actually explained if a game is to be hosted IMO.

[KainTepes]

VOTE: TheMM
VOTE: BTD
VOTE: zefiend

wait YOU were the one who hammered, not me,,

[Tywin Lannister]

Thank you for hosting it thoufh Ircher. It is a great concept and I appreciate you hosting, but I don't really understand it. Since I've been pretty much lurking the entire game anyways due to real life stuff, I think it's best for another player to come sub for me.

[Not_Mafia]

Mod said you hammered Kain why did you do that?

[Not_Mafia]

NO MOD SAID NVM

[Not_Mafia]

I did not HAMMERED

[Not_Mafia]

you HAMMERED

[Tywin Lannister]

Also, Kain isn't scum. Heard it here first! I feel like people who use this site's meta as a guideline have some really bad ideas on how to read other players. I say this as a general rule from what I've seen. Stop looking for connections that almost always aren't there, and try to vet each individual player by themselves. People won't go out and say 'I'm scum,' and half the time, they won't give scum tells either. What they will do is follow certain paths and styles that aren't necessarily in town's best interest, and recognizing those things means not blindly following MS meta. It's more about understanding motivations for the content (or lack thereof) of their posts.

My guess is Jin is scum. I'll check after the game to see if I'm right. I just wanted to give predictions before I'm replaced.

[ɀefiend]

Thank you for hosting it thoufh Ircher. It is a great concept and I appreciate you hosting, but I don't really understand it. Since I've been pretty much lurking the entire game anyways due to real life stuff, I think it's best for another player to come sub for me.

Look at this noob, thinking he can replace out of a bastard game!

Welcome to

hell

.

[BNL]

I don't see a reason zefiend should be unvoted. If he is town, he his playing against his wincon, especially given that since he claimed he is a double voter which isn't *that* valuable IMO. If he was something more powerful like a full sensor I could buy it.

Explain how claiming my role is playing against a town win-con please.

It isn't, hammering without a good reason is.

Secondly, you are either ignorant or scum. Double weight on my votes is exceptionally powerful in a game literally predicated on VOTING.

Well maybe, but definitely not powerful enough to justify quickhammering just to hide as PR.

Furthermore, it is now apparent that the only "good reasons" for unvoting me relied on my role-claim. You are not even bothering to address the logic and arguments in my posts.

You play against town's wincon, you are getting lynched.

Lastly, you have seemingly accepted Eggman's claim but have failed to grasp elementary maths that suggest either Jin or MM is Mafia, assuming that Eggman's ability works as theorized.

When MM flips scum you can die next.

Eggman said that there were 1 or 2 scum or similar on drealmerz. I don't see how this by itself implicates anyone as scum.

[BNL]

VOTE: TheMM
VOTE: BTD
VOTE: zefiend

And now YOU tried to hammer. It probably doesn't count due to being in the wrong format but what matters is that you tried to hammer.

After zefiend dies you are next. Unless this was intended to be a joke since intentionally wrong format.


Seriously, this isn't funny.

[Not_Mafia]

I can't believe kain did that

[KainTepes]

I AM THE REAL KAIN,, EVERYONE READ THE NAMES,, NOT_MAFIA IS A FAKE KAIN HE COPIED MY AVATAR............................!!!

[The MM]

- Bullet, The MM, Jin, Jason
These people need to switch votes in their next posts

This is a post that is super-entitled on an opinion, which deserves zero answer. You need to learn not to make posts like that, boys.
If you know me, you know that I have a tendency to just spit in the face of such posts.

[...]you are either ignorant or scum. Double weight on my votes is exceptionally powerful in a game literally predicated on VOTING.
[...]
When MM flips scum you can die next.

I am powerful plz let me live. -- Voting-based roles are NAI, so this doesn't hold any ground.
Once again, super-entitlement to what is essentially an opinion. Same reaction: screw that noise.

[KainTepes]

Mod said you hammered Kain why did you do that?

NO MOD SAID NVM

I did not HAMMERED

you HAMMERED

not_mafia why are you talking to YOURSELF,,