Team Mafia 2018: Mafiosi Revolution (Over)

[UnaBombaH]

Us not having a Doc makes no sense.
Us having a Doc+backup with nothing to protect makes very little sense to me.
I thought about the Doc possibly being scumsided, but that makes very little sense too, with no town killing-PR.

[UnaBombaH]

Interesting.. but I guess me saying this same thing was asenine.

You could have just outright claimed before everyone else did and then we would have understood why you wanted to do this.

It would've changed nothing with how stubborn people in this site are.
I also didn't want to claim in the first place, but decided to do so because of the VT-claims and because I got annoyed. Ech.

[UnaBombaH]

My hunch still is that we have a doc+budoc+rolecop.
Scum has a gated strongman or a JOAT or something.
If scum has a VT, we only have a Doc+BuDoc and Cabd was informed that there is no investigative roles in game!

[UnaBombaH]

Lol I kind of think unabomeh is scum and there’s no power roles this game.

I feel like this is scum talking!

[UnaBombaH]

Why would scum-me crumb/soft the claim for the entire game instead of just either claiming it or shutting up about it?

But hey, why wouldn't scum!Ginngie fake a guilty?

[UnaBombaH]

Good.
Now I'm going to dodge this game until we get to a situation that makes sense.
Mainly anything other than a Doc stepping forward, and saying something.
Our Doc can lay low in the VT-claims, and we can hunt the scum from there.

[UnaBombaH]

Bored. Annoyed. She seems EXACTLY like the kind of player who would act based on those emotions as scum.

[UnaBombaH]

Why would scum-me crumb/soft the claim for the entire game instead of just either claiming it or shutting up about it?

To try to get townread for it

So you suggest I'm scum!BackupDoc?

[UnaBombaH]

Going to sleep now.
Will write my thoughts when I wake up.

[UnaBombaH]

I lost all motivation for this game with D4.
I never intended for my claim to be wasted like this, I hoped to be able to whip it out in a situation where it would actually benefit us, and that is why I was so wildly flailing/fishing today.

I want to lynch Ginngie because I despise the idea of scum!Ginngie winning after what she pulled D3.
I want to lynch Ari because he provides NOTHING to the conversation. He promised a catch-up, and he "cleared" that with "found nothing useful" and shaded my two posts. Great job.
I want to lynch kmd because I've actually had a tingle of a scumread on them through-out the game, and I feel like they'd probably make the most sense too. But notice how kmd is only third here? That is how annoyed I am with this game.

[UnaBombaH]

were you trying to make scum fakeclaim an investigate?

I guess it doesn't matter at this point if I explain.
My thought was that if our investigative claims first, BUT DOESN'T GIVE THEIR RESULTS, we then force everyone else to claim.
This way we create the "pressure" for scum to "claim correctly", because there is the looming chance they've been checked/followed/etc.
A Vanilla Goon would obviously still claim Vanilla, but anyone with a modifier in their role would have to either claim truthfully, or fakeclaim with the risk of getting caught.
I stuck to this thought process once Cabd had flipped "informed", but then the whole faked guilty thing happened, so D3 was a blur.
I had a working theory that Cabds information included what type of an investigative we have in the game. Someone who investigates roles over alignment or movement made the most sense with his see-through softing and fakeclaims - I assume he thought he was becoming a prime-choice for a check N1 after all the coasting he had been doing, so he had to come up with something to avoid it.
(according to wiki "Friendly Neighbor" is borderlining "informed" in a sense - FN has the word "informed" in it's terminology), and I guessed his original plan was to twist that softing into an "informed" claim just in case down the line. Don't know what that BP thing was about - I'd guess he wanted to try and draw our RC out by calling out his bullshit.
And even if our investigative was ANYTHING related to roles (Vanilla Cop/Neopolitan, etc) the remaining scum might have had to twist their claim to fit, and there would've been a chance to catch them.

I KNEW THAT OUTRIGHT CLAIMING WOULD LIKELY JUST GIVE US THREE CLAIMED PR'S AT BEST, BUT WOULDN'T PROBABLY SEAL THE GAME.

- unless we could catch the scum in a lie.
My plan would've already protected our Doc, and therefore our investigative, because after my claim I would've told the Doc to claim VT as the only one who was allowed to fakeclaim. (at first)
This would've given them room to hide amongst the Vanillas, but know who to protect while our inv. would've checked the rest of us. (guaranteed two checks because of me being the backup)

Well, as we can now see, it wouldn't have APPARENTLY made a difference, and I also gave up on this "plan" when so many had already claimed or implied VT so heavily.
I'm content with just hanging along this game now - I picked this role-PM just because of the role being able to become a named townie at worst - useful PR at best.

I'm sort of childish with how much I crumb whenever I'm a PR. (no matter what role)

[UnaBombaH]

Una: Doesn't like the trajectory on Mulch at all. Feels like this lynch has to happen at some point to get the conversation out of the way.

Ah, thanks for making this simple for me.

Kmd is scum guys.

VOTE: kmd

[UnaBombaH]

I mean like, wanting to save the wine from Ginngie and Ari to Lylo is absolutely a good thing.
For a scum to do that is

The contrast of Mathdino saying that I'm a lynch that needs to happen vs saving a slot like Ari/Ginngie to LyLo doesn't make sense.

[UnaBombaH]

I'm not feeling very good guys..
Will try to summon enough strenght to write and vote tomorrow.

[UnaBombaH]

If you want me to go back and read it, probably not happening tonight, dinner and then either dateThings/workThings.

..I've seen..StrangerThings.

[UnaBombaH]

[UnaBombaH]

YEEEEEEEEEEEEE!

[UnaBombaH]

What we need to do today is massclaim, with me going last. I want to make it very clear that if you are protown, you must not lie in this massclaim. I appreciate people taking the time to think and not throwing votes around.

Funnily enough, I thought you were the Doc, and Chara the inv.

I'm a Backup Doc

[UnaBombaH]

I want firebringer actually to be the next one to claim.
Don't get me wrong - everyone should claim in their next post, but firebringer should be next.

Feels like scum trying to buy themselves some time.

[UnaBombaH]

Like, I get the argument that "I have already claimed VT", but so did Chara.
And like said, the setup made very little sense with the claims we had yesterday.
EVEN FURTHERMORE, I already suspected that scum might have yet another role-modifier, so you dancing around the subject does come across rather bad.

If you refuse to EXPLICITLY claim your role FB, there's no way you can blame anyone but yourself if things get more complicated.

[UnaBombaH]

And no, I don't think "chocolate flavoured scum" and "Chocolate aint plain yo" amounts to a clear roleclaim at all. That can be made into pretty much anything later.

Indeed.
This is why I also think Firebringer is scum.
He has a role-modifier that probably implicates him - VT is the only "safe claim" atm.
The danger in fakeclaiming that at this point though, is because we don't know what Patricks role is, or who he has checked.

[UnaBombaH]

I’m honestly waiting for someone to point out the obvious.

..which is?