Micro 1029: 8-Ball (but with Wolves) Game Over

[Alisae]

Well now ur more suspect because u knew that information and me/tw didn’t

[Alisae]

i think if i rolled scum with momrangal in this plist i'd encourage us to make mom the 8ball just for the 'venge'kill to counter swing
not because i think mom is bad. i just think mom is a slow burn player, and is unlikely to get a strong footing in d1 in this player list.

idrk how meaningful this is just sayin

A scum Lim is a scum lim

[Bingle]

But like, it reads like a potential slip to me too. Djdoxjsklsjshs

I'm not above peking toucan.

OKAY BUT CAN YOU MAKE A CHOICE I CAN VOTE EITHER

I'm not interested in limming either. Just lighting them on fire.

Duckie lim is actively bad for thread health atm, Taly is a townread.

[Bingle]

It occurs to me that I forgot to ask STD which method he's using to make deadlines a thing in this game, and I should probably do so.

Pm'd the dargons here.

Also worth noting that No Elimination is specifically not allowed to be 8 ball.

[Taly]

Daytalk is enabled.
By default, the wolfteam does not get a nightkill.
Before each day phase (including Day 1), the Wolves pick one player to be the "8-Ball". If this player is eliminated, they flip as the 8-Ball, and wolves get a nightkill.
After each elimination, wolves can change their 8-ball.

I'm unsure. I read the rules as wolves not being able to change 8ball until the initial 8ball is eliminated.

@MOD - Can scum change the 8ball each night, even if the 8ball was not eliminated?

P-edit

It occurs to me that I forgot to ask STD which method he's using to make deadlines a thing in this game, and I should probably do so.

Pm'd the dargons here.

Also worth noting that No Elimination is specifically not allowed to be 8 ball.

[Bingle]

STD wants questions via PM, not in thread. It's in the rules. Which only Bingle ever reads.

[Bingle]

Also, explicitly yes. Scum can choose a new 8 ball every night. It's like none of you have played this setup before or something.

[Taly]

4. Please do not ask me questions in the thread. Use PMs. However, it's OK to point out any vote tabulation mistakes I make in-thread.

Oh right oopsies

[Bingle]

Well now ur more suspect because u knew that information and me/tw didn’t

Actually... unpack this for me?

The scum role PM is public, and it's me. Why would

me

knowing setup stuff be scum indicative at all? And haven't you played this setup before?

[Taly]

The reason I point this out is because I read the bolded as though you knew I was 8ball. A potential slip. That's what I want clarified.

No, you misread. Imaginality was talking about the possibility of you being scum and 8ball, and that's what I was responding to

Just gonna cut this off at the knees: That was 100% not a scum slip. When discussing the hypothetical that you are the eightball, the presumption that you would flip 8 ball is natural.

Hopefully we don't have a week long argument about whether the obviously NAI post is a scumslip every game I'm scum in.

now

this

is a scumslip

But like, it reads like a potential slip to me too. Djdoxjsklsjshs

i'd be interested in you expanding, i've had growing concerns about bingle.

Just the

"every game I'm scum in"

sounds like an admission since it seemed

Bingle

presumed that the

Wisdom

post was a red herring. Why would the first part of that sentence be true but the next be false?

Like, I can't be misreading again can I?

And why hold off on those concerns ducky, you waiting for me to be your shield?

[imaginality]

i think if i rolled scum with momrangal in this plist i'd encourage us to make mom the 8ball just for the 'venge'kill to counter swing
not because i think mom is bad. i just think mom is a slow burn player, and is unlikely to get a strong footing in d1 in this player list.

idrk how meaningful this is just sayin

Well now ur more suspect because u knew that information and me/tw didn’t

Well now ur more suspect because u knew that information and me/tw didn’t

Actually... unpack this for me?

The scum role PM is public, and it's me. Why would

me

knowing setup stuff be scum indicative at all? And haven't you played this setup before?

Wasn't Alisae replying to the worst, not you?
Although the point still applies, I don't see why #199 is suspicious.

[Alisae]

Well now ur more suspect because u knew that information and me/tw didn’t

Actually... unpack this for me?

The scum role PM is public, and it's me. Why would

me

knowing setup stuff be scum indicative at all? And haven't you played this setup before?

no i haven't and generally scum are more likely to know these things than town

[Alisae]

Wasn't Alisae replying to the worst, not you?

was replying to bingle

[Taly]

My pool right now is

{Bingle/Wisdom/Hiraki/Imaginality}

.

I'm unlikely to be swayed on

Mom

. I don't want ducky eliminated unless he just fucks up.

Ali

feels limbaity and my defense button has been pushed for that slot.

[Taly]

Admittedly, I had early townpings on

Bingle/Wisdom

but I wantto read them more critically. Also POE would suggest

Hiraki/Imaginality

and I have no basis to entertain that reality.

To be fair,

TW/Ali/Mom

townvibes have all been pretty recent. Within the last 30 hr.

[Bingle]

Just the "every game I'm scum in" sounds like an admission since it seemed Bingle presumed that the Wisdom post was a red herring. Why would the first part of that sentence be true but the next be false?

You realize that's actually not what my post said originally and ducky was actively trolling me, right?

[Taly]

Hopefully we don't have a week long argument about whether the obviously NAI post is a scumslip every game I play.

Omfg you're right. Apologies. Fucking duck.

IT'S LATE. I'M GOING TO BED.

[Bingle]

no i haven't and generally scum are more likely to know these things than town

Subject: Micro Queue (Players and Mods)

I don't like this setup unless I'm town but Hiraki joined so
/in 8-ball

This threw me off. And was like 1/3 of the reason I'm in this game. Apparently there's only one completed run of this setup (according to the wiki) and it's the one where ducky ran the game. Deadline functioned the same way there (although scum could choose no lim as an 8ball) and I

was

scum against nsg and rellyphant.

We're not talking about the general case, though, we're talking about

me

. Do you actually think it's scum indicative for me to have clarified setup info with the mod? If so, why?

[Alisae]

oh no you could be town and just so happen to know these things but i think it's rather townies who are more likely to not know anything about the setup or a detail like that

[Alisae]

and I think scum is likely to ask about that because I'ma be real here
I didn't know that.

Now that I think about it
if the day ends
wolves can't kill

oh.

that makes sense actually

[Alisae]

well fucking great
if I made THAT connection earlier I wouldn't have thrown anyone any bones. I only felt pressured to because the day was ending and I was like "oh well I'll just give them something it's probably not good but it's something"

[Alisae]

actually now that I think about it I just thought the day is ending but didn't know what that actually meant.
it just means re-assigning the 8ball
i did not reach this conclusion.

[Wisdom]

No elims are bad
Scum now have the info to change the 8ball into someone likely getting limd whereas it was a blind guess in pregame
Let's just flip Ali

[Wisdom]

Or Imaginality if you prefer
Mom id rather give one more day

[Alisae]

No elims are bad
Scum now have the info to change the 8ball into someone likely getting limd whereas it was a blind guess in pregame
Let's just flip Ali