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[DrippingGoofball]

My town read

numéro un

is Elements.

[Emperor flippyNips]

Why?

[DrippingGoofball]

I'm also liking sheepmeep a lot.

[DrippingGoofball]

bristep also town.

[DrippingGoofball]

VOTE: curiouskarmadog

Knee jerk reflex vote.

VOTE: dripping

A wise person once told me to always vote someone who feels the need to explain their vote early on like this. Makes it seem like you're trying to justify yourself to town

:eyeroll:

[OopsieDaisy]

I asked you about your motivations. You lied.

My day 1 play is to get things to happen. If I say my motivation for doing X is to get things to happen it stops getting things to happen in the same way. So of course I lied, just so happened that this was a provable lie

As an fyi for people who want my opinion, this *kind of* checks out. Elements, like me, is someone who wants to push a proactive Day 1, often putting themselves on the line in order to create some form of activity. And you can't pressure someone into a reaction if you vocalise that intention as you vote them, because then they're fully aware of what you're doing.

Imagine if on my Bristar vote, instead of picking out an actual tangible reason to vote them, I just said nothing/an off-hand joke/outed the fact I wanted to see what they'd do if I voted em. Would we have seen the "glib" reaction then? Likely not.

On the other hand, yea El straight up lied about their thought process I can absolutely see why you wanna push this. Plus I think El is kinda scummy this game so far so I've no problem with them being a wagon. Just as someone who's played many games with El I don't find it ultra surprising like this is some out-of-character hand caught in the cookie jar moment. The biggest issue I have is El trying to manipulate me into preaching a stance that would benefit them with the activity thing :3

[OopsieDaisy]

bristep also town.

any particular reason why? seems to be a hot take right now

[geraintm]

Is there normally 3 scum in a 13 player?

Yes, but just come from a game with only 2

[Elements]

Elements what would you say determines your motivation to play a particular game? This is not a set up for a gotcha but a srs question.

I like playing mafia? A lil bit of chaos, hyperfixation, for this game in particular playing with Daisy coz she hasn't played a forum game in a while.

I think this response is villagery lol

I think mafia would be like hmm why is this serious question being asked? how can I appease that?

but he just didnt think about that lol

Lmao

Okay that's not really what i was asking

What I was getting at is the last couple times I played with Elements, iirc they flaked out during the first day after getting some heat. Do you recall Chara's Folly where you ended up being the D1 lim? For one, elements wasn't trying to shake things up and two she definitely wasn't the top poster by a wide margin. I'm curious what is the cause for the change.

Elements was scum in Chara's Folly but they didn't really make too much of an impression on me. Did you know anyone in that game? If you remember Chara's (i wont be forgetting it)

Was this question for me or sheep? I can't tell

[Elements]

I think the way curious reacts to Elements is slightly towny, I don't think scum would see town shifting reads unpredictably and without reason and turn that into "I cannot believe i have caught you in a lie this early". I'd assume it's a gambit or a reaction test or otherwise something deeper, this seems more a genuine reaction

You seem to have a lot of town reads/leans. Do you have anything on the scum side or are you not bothering with that yet?

[Elements]

Is there normally 3 scum in a 13 player?

I normally assume 1 mafia for every 3 town

Yes, but just come from a game with only 2

What was the game? I'm interested in the setup

[Elements]

I like DGB's read giving

[Elements]

I'll probably be low activity tomorrow and Saturday btw, got a lot of driving to do

[DrippingGoofball]

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
Elements
sheepsaysmeep
bristep123
OopsieDaisy
Save The Dragons

PROBABLY GONNA PING...

geraintm

I AM NOT IMPRESSED

Merlyn
Emperor flippyNips
towwl

SCUM

Hu Tao (Because he explained his vote for me LOL)
Morning Tweet (I feel sneaky agenda vibes in the posts)

UNBROKEN STREAK OF ROLLING SCUM SINCE 2007

curiouskarmadog

[towwl]

also why are we talking about another game?

I like this post because ckd seems annoyed by a conversation where I provide a bit of shielding for them. I think scum would just let that conversation happen.

@Towwl, did you think the scumreads of Hu Tao/CKD in that game were unwarranted, and do you feel your reading of that game has impacted how you're approaching them in this one?

I dunno if they were really "unwarranted", I think pretty much any wagon in this game can be "warranted", especially Day 1

I wrote up a pretty detailed answer to this question but I didn't think it would be productive to give my exact thoughts in the thread here so I backspaced it and I'm just going to drop this for now. I'd rather talk about the current game, anyways.

also sorry el but i think i slightly scumread you now. it is incredibly funny to turn the attempt to get me talking about activity into a joke about you trying to get me to read you as town, but i do think there is definitely truth in that joke somewhat and that worries me a tiny bit (and yes you would be this open about it as mafia i know youuu)

I think this was a good catch and I townread you for it

lmao, I'm surprised this is the first time anyones noticed

This is a terrible response to being caught lying!

I asked you about your motivations. You lied.

My day 1 play is to get things to happen. If I say my motivation for doing X is to get things to happen it stops getting things to happen in the same way. So of course I lied, just so happened that this was a provable lie

This seems like a lousy strategy tbh, but I'm still pretty new so what do I know. Do you get a lot of town wins with this?

This post is good enough to shake off my RVS vote.

UNVOTE: Merlyn
VOTE: Elements

Is there normally 3 scum in a 13 player?

dumbtell denied

Morning Tweet (I feel sneaky agenda vibes in the posts)

I kinda felt that too

Mental note, don’t attempt humour.

curious why?

Because my rvs with a little joke attached is the one that got the piley-on despite there being a few others to start the game off.

Tweet already asked you about this (85) but you didn't really answer. It sounds like you think there's more promising targets to pursue than [post]43[/vote]. What are they?

[towwl]

Tweet already asked you about this (85) but you didn't really answer. It sounds like you think there's more promising targets to pursue than 43. What are they?

ebwop

[Elements]

This is a terrible response to being caught lying!

Why?

[geraintm]

TOWN

DrippingGoofball
Elements
sheepsaysmeep
bristep123
OopsieDaisy
Save The Dragons

PROBABLY GONNA PING...

geraintm

I AM NOT IMPRESSED

Merlyn
Emperor flippyNips
towwl

SCUM

Hu Tao (Because he explained his vote for me LOL)
Morning Tweet (I feel sneaky agenda vibes in the posts)

UNBROKEN STREAK OF ROLLING SCUM SINCE 2007

curiouskarmadog

Ping

[geraintm]

Is there normally 3 scum in a 13 player?

I normally assume 1 mafia for every 3 town

Yes, but just come from a game with only 2

What was the game? I'm interested in the setup

2300. Very little power on eithernside

[towwl]

wrt

lmao, I'm surprised this is the first time anyones noticed

This is a terrible response to being caught lying!

Why?

It reads to me as you laughing it off while saying "well actually I MEANT to do that" which is very slippery

[Elements]

Fair

[Elements]

Oi Daisy

[OopsieDaisy]

Oi Daisy

wat

[Elements]

Just wanted to say hi :3

[OopsieDaisy]

Just wanted to say hi :3

dang, was hoping you were gonna come out with some awesome off-the-wall read that was gonna blow this game wide open

but also hi i hope the traffic is nice to you on your drives over the next couple days lol