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Post Post #2000 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:42 pm

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I dont think I ever used gamblers fallacy at all. I said I dont think we have an all lurker scumteam or an all prolific poster scumteam. Which simplifies focus groups.

Pick 1 prolific poster and 1 lurker. Theres probably a scum in each
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Post Post #2001 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:42 pm

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I'll be up a little longer to talk, I got a bit of a second wind.
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Post Post #2002 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:43 pm

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Ive seen all lurker scumteams. They lose in lylo every time. Zero credibility, zero capability to generate counter measures.
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Post Post #2003 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:43 pm

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Ive seen all lurker scumteams. They lose in lylo every time. Zero credibility, zero capability to generate counter measures.
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Post Post #2004 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:43 pm

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In post 2000, moth wrote:I dont think I ever used gamblers fallacy at all. I said I dont think we have an all lurker scumteam or an all prolific poster scumteam. Which simplifies focus groups.

Pick 1 prolific poster and 1 lurker. Theres probably a scum in each
Meh, you could do the same thing with avatar colors tbh if that's the case

But sometimes it's true that lurking scumbuddies can influence a mafioso to be more active
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Post Post #2005 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:43 pm

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Sorry for the x2 post. I REALLY MEAN IT.lol
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Post Post #2006 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:43 pm

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Oh, you did?

Mind if you link?
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Post Post #2007 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:44 pm

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How is avatar colors and posting habits in game equivalent for finding scum?
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Post Post #2008 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:44 pm

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In post 1698, The Glitter Patrol wrote:LUV -- In Large Normal 200 (Source) You post a lot of short one liners and never really get into much depth in the beginning of the game. Also Double Deck is more of the same (=28406]Source)

In contrast a game you were town you were more explanatory with your reads (Take for example this post Source). In your scum game you tend to use more "pings" or "doesn't sit right" comments. Where as you go more indepth as town. What do you make of this?

Titus seemed to pick up on the same thing but generally doesn't use meta like I do, so she may not have gone back and looked at past games.
Yeah I definitely see where this is coming from
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Post Post #2009 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:46 pm

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In post 2007, moth wrote:How is avatar colors and posting habits in game equivalent for finding scum?
Well if they're both unrelated to alignment, they are equivalent. That's not necessarily the case but yeah.

Some scumteams could be all active, some all lurkers but I agree that there tends to be a spread more often than random.
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Post Post #2010 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:47 pm

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Thats-like saying vote habits dont matter either.
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Post Post #2011 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:49 pm

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I'm not saying they don't matter. I'm saying they sometimes matter but not always.
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Post Post #2012 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:49 pm

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Anyways I just thought that series of posts by RM was especially low information.
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Post Post #2013 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:51 pm

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Felt to me like she was just getting her thoughts out there.

Hey guys, moth is 100% town.
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Post Post #2014 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:51 pm

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Also the abbreviations people are using in this are hard to keep up with plus all the hydra names. Be simple.

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Post Post #2015 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:54 pm

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In post 2013, Infinity 324 wrote:Felt to me like she was just getting her thoughts out there.

Hey guys, moth is 100% town.
please don't say things like that

honestly I've been cooling off on my scumread there

if I change my avatar to all flashy colors will I be townier
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Post Post #2016 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:55 pm

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No but if you start actually contrubiting you might be
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Post Post #2017 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:56 pm

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In post 1999, Creature wrote:Btw, here's a breaking strategy if you get scum: Make your entire scumteam lurk, town will think scum wouldn't all be lurkers and you'd all get an easy win.
In post 2000, moth wrote:I dont think I ever used gamblers fallacy at all. I said I dont think we have an all lurker scumteam or an all prolific poster scumteam. Which simplifies focus groups.

Pick 1 prolific poster and 1 lurker. Theres probably a scum in each
Have a game to counter this:
http://emforummaf.prophpbb.com/topic7.html

scumteam was all lurkers.

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Post Post #2018 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:58 pm

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In post 2016, moth wrote:No but if you start actually contrubiting you might be
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Post Post #2019 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 12:58 pm

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In post 2015, McMenno wrote:please don't say things like that
I'm confirmed town, I get to do what I want!

But seriously I've only ever seen town do this kind of digging on d1.
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Post Post #2020 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:00 pm

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Okay so are we entertaining the notion scumteam could be RM, Yume, Peregrine, KFC, TD then?
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Post Post #2021 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:00 pm

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Ok unless anyone has anything they want to talk about I'm going to bed for real this time
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Post Post #2022 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:00 pm

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Above post is @glitter since you felt the need to find a very homerun 4th and 20 example to refute my theory.
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Post Post #2023 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:08 pm

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@glitter do you have any examples of games where the top 5 posters were all scum and they led town off a cliff?
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Post Post #2024 (ISO) » Sat Feb 18, 2017 1:09 pm

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In post 1997, Infinity 324 wrote:Hey jae! Let's work together this game for once. I like the direction your going so far, I'm not sure if I agree with you on transcend but I haven't seen a lot of his posts. I definitely agree with you here though from what I've seen and I agree with you that postie is off from the games I've read of hers.
Well you're conftown this time so that helps :P Also I still think you shouldn't meta read me without having seen my full range but meh. It's less frustrating when it's not a scumread.

So my main suspicions currently are in {Postie, NBA, Transcend, LUV, nancy}
Lower suspicion on FA slot but she's a lot harder to read once I made that push on her and things started getting personal. I'm hoping someone easy to read replaces in there.

Postie because she's off in tone and the whole RM read, but I also remember really disliking early game a jump on my wagon.
NBA is omgus'ey so I'm inclined to throw my thoughts out there until I can regroup with a reread, because I know Alisae is all over the place as town too, I just expect him to be able to read me, especially given I feel he should know the emotional range I've expressed this game is genuine having hydra'd with me and being friends outside of MS.... but again, omgus'ey type burden of proficiency read on a friend so I might throw that out. We'll see what I get in the reread, especially considering something that I picked up that I legit missed every time.
Transcend just feels opportunistic and like he was trying to buddy FA. The subtle shade throwing at Postie doesn't look like distancing though, it felt more like he was trying to set groundwork there for later or feel out support of a lynch there.
LUV is really off. Tonally and progression-wise. Usually I can look at his conclusions and see some potential town thought process but I'm getting zero of that here.
nancy I'm wary of whiteknighting me and potentially buddying. Could be nothing, idunno.

I haven't been following as closely the past day or so. Weekends are really bad for me because of home duties and such.

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