TemporalLich's Grand Idea [Game Over]

[Flea The Magician]

My dilemma is while I'd done my best, do I become Alfred or Bruce...

[Bell]

VOTE: Disney Princess

I'm busy.

[Guillotina]

im insulted

Im not listed!

[Toogeloo]

I hate this game.

[Bell]

Sheep me or vote yourself.

[Guillotina]

Am I wrong? At one point you're happy to

sheep me

onto Korina

Spoiler:

I AM PLAYING THE GAME SERIOUSLY IN THE MASONRY, AND GENUINELY TRYING TO SOLVE IN THERE.
I AM NOT SOLVING IN THE MAIN THREAD BECAUSE THAT JUST PAINTS A TARGET ON MY BACK.

I dont like this. Solve here. If you get targeted for solving the game here, they are outing.

You are saying like, you are solving privately and we should take your word for it? Why should we?

I AM PLAYING THE GAME SERIOUSLY IN THE MASONRY, AND GENUINELY TRYING TO SOLVE IN THERE.
I AM NOT SOLVING IN THE MAIN THREAD BECAUSE THAT JUST PAINTS A TARGET ON MY BACK.

I dont like this. Solve here. If you get targeted for solving the game here, they are outing.

SCUM NIGHTKILL, UNLESS YOU'RE PROPOSING WE HAVE A LOOKOUT OR EQUIVELENT ROLE ON ME?

So, if we die we die but we leave a legacy for town to solve the game.

Give me names Korina. Who you think are town and whom scum?

THE PROBLEM WITH THAT GUILLO IS THAT I HAVE NO OBLIGATIONS TO HELP ANYONE. MY ENTIRE GOAL IS TO SURVIVE. IF I DIE, IT MATTERS TO LITERALLY NOBODY THAT I DID SO; THEREFORE, ME SOLVING IN THE THREAD IS POINTLESS.
I'M ONLY SOLVING IN THE MASON THREAD BECAUSE I FEEL AN OBLIGATION TO MAKE THE MASON ROLE ACTUALLY USEFUL.

Well that is the issue, we hold the majority! It is true you have to obligation to help us, but we can force you to or we eliminate you. Now I see radio's point.

Either you help us survive so we feel like helping you survive, or we eliminate you.

I'm ok with yeeting Korina or Hayker, but Korina more now. She has no obligation to help, I got no obligation to help her survive.

VOTE: KORINA

Help us solve the game. Fuck your private solving that only helps you or.... get the guillotine.

TOWN: BELL, D.P., DJ, NONO, RAYA, SAM, TOOG
SCUM: REBEL, UNWND(?)

I HAVE BEEN V/LA FOR 60% OF THIS GAME, AND TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY I'M SERIOUSLY READING THINGS FROM THIS THREAD, AND I MAY NOT EVEN DO THAT TODAY.

PEDIT: AND I'M DOING THAT THROUGH THE MASONRY. IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULDN'T POST AT ALL IN THIS THREAD. I HAVE TO THOUGH SO I SHALL JUST SHITPOST IN THIS THREAD.

Ok. How about you give us a summary of why those names are in your town list and those in your scum list. Specially Rebel please.

PLUS, DAY ONE DOESN'T MATTER AT ALL.

DAY 1 Starts mattering now because I'm here.

I SHALL NOT ELABORATE ON MY TOWN READS AT THIS POINT, BECAUSE ONE OF THOSE NAMES IS MY MASON BUDDY, AND WE'VE AGREED TO NOT OUT EACH OTHER YET.
AS FOR WHY REBEL IS SCUM, LITERALLY READ MY ISO. I HAVE EXPLAINED BEFORE WHY I THINK REBEL IS SCUM.

You claimed 3P, you are not town to be a mason.

TOWN: BELL, D.P., DJ,

NONO

,

RAYA

, SAM, TOOG
SCUM:

REBEL

, UNWND(?)

I HAVE BEEN V/LA FOR 60% OF THIS GAME, AND TODAY IS THE FIRST DAY I'M SERIOUSLY READING THINGS FROM THIS THREAD, AND I MAY NOT EVEN DO THAT TODAY.

PEDIT: AND I'M DOING THAT THROUGH THE MASONRY. IF IT WERE UP TO ME, I WOULDN'T POST AT ALL IN THIS THREAD. I HAVE TO THOUGH SO I SHALL JUST SHITPOST IN THIS THREAD.

update

town you are.

VOTE: Bell
VOTE: Angry Birds
VOTE: NDMath

Neutral

VOTE: Vax
VOTE: unwnd
VOTE: Raya
VOTE: Toogeloo

antitown you are.

VOTE: KORINA
VOTE: Pooky
VOTE: Particularly Stupid
VOTE: Jake
VOTE: Nono
VOTE: Flea

[Bell]

Putting guil into scum pile for thinking flea is scum this game and only in reaction to flea giving them a hard time. Because the read is shallow asf.

[unwnd]

I can't believe I'm sheeping the guy who I got a Not Town result on

VOTE: Disney Princesses

[Guillotina]

good news

can talk freely During Twilight

[Guillotina]

Putting guil into scum pile for thinking flea is scum this game

Because the read is

shallow asf

.

flea is scum this game

[Guillotina]

I can't believe I'm sheeping the guy who I got a Not Town result on

VOTE: Disney Princesses

[Guillotina]

Putting guil into scum pile for thinking flea is scum this game and only in reaction to flea giving them a hard time. Because the read is shallow asf.

misrepresentation

Flea, when you're town your reads actually have substance, which here it's blatant you don't and, similarly to raya, are tunneled in on me and are unable to comment on others(while that specific trait is something you are able to avoid when scum though.)

It looks to me that you feel threatened by me and wish to silence/discredit me instead of trying to resolve my slot. Feel free to prove otherwise by actually engaging with me though.
-koba

I don't recall mentioning my town reads much. Nice deflection. I've caught you as scum and as I do every time I am of that belief, I death tunnel.
You're not that familiar with my scum games. But you're familiar enough with my play to know I'm all over the damn place.

You're a threat to town, and then to me.

You're not disputing anything I'm raising but instead dismissing it as though it's nothing, that's not normal koba play. Normal Koba play is fight like a beast.

I'm trying to not be as aggressive as I used to be in games - this is a new playstyle I'm trying. Regardless no matter how smart you think you are, you're not going to catch me based on my personality because I play the same between alignments in that regard. I don't remember you ever catching me as scum as I don't think I have rolled scum against you.

You're just cementing my belief that you are uninterested in trying to sort me and are keen on discrediting me / painting me as scum.

And I'm not disputing anything you're saying? I'd say that trying to pull more reasoning out of you is quite the opposite. I'm not scum - so you think I'm gonna just nod my head and be like "yup thats correct" instead of tell you you're flat out wrong on your points? I'm trying to get you to elaborate and you're just giving these vague nothings that are NAI for me. Of course I'm going to dismiss your points when they aren't really points against me. Try harder.
And I never mentioned you having townreads. I said you don't have many reads at all here - and acknowledged that point was moreso not as relevant.

How about you try engaging me in good faith if you're town? Or are you feeling trapped into tunneling me because you are indeed scum?
-koba

[dsjstr]

Since when did I become the business card collector?

Since when did I become the business card collector?

We are a highly flexible organization where people wear many hats.

Is there a job you would like instead?

Head Chef was a nice position.

Question: where did the position of Business Card Collector come from? Are you crumbing your role?

So I can see the kill on Rebel because they were very townie, I can also see the kill on Sam because they outed as a PR. I was not sure why someone killed cook I could see it coming from a town but I noticed they said this in twilight.

Makes me think that who ever killed them might have been observant because I definitely missed this obvious crumb. So I think there are 3 scum kills at night or a town that didn't really think about it but had a gut ping.

[Flea The Magician]

You know I get pulled up on "bad faith" a fucking hell of a lot... pisses me off. I literally just do me and frankly that people are using that to disengage me makes me wonder if it's even worth bothering continuing on this site.

I'm just going to drop this.

Damn this got deep o.o

I'm sticking to my korina vote btw.
Convince me otherwise.

*sips tea*

VOTE: KORINA

Flea, upon looking at faer ISO, is actually spending a lot of time circling the Korina question in a way that isn't actually helpful. That and being a whiteboard for Guillotina.

Actually

VOTE: Flea the Magician

Posting is cult-focused to the point that it feels like either cult trying to look busy hunting the threat of cult or groupscum genuinely focused on a cult as the biggest threat to said group.--PA

now: scum / not town pile:

confident:

hayker

flea

korina

nono

perhaps:
cook
disney princesses

and say Guill has made a point of forming full freaking sentences using quotes so this PR on them is being overplayed.
VOTE: Guillotina

[Particularly Stupid]

yall really like voting town huh.

[Angry Birds]

Okay, I owe an actual case on Flea's play today. This is me going through faer posts from Day Two to isolate what pinged. I'm not including what I consider to be fluff/banter/irrelevant-to-case OT posting.

I'll also say that this is my first game in three years or so, I've never played with Flea or read any games of faers. So the emotional plea of 'this always happens to me, :siteflounce threat:' doesn't do much for me.

Spoiler: Quote pull wall with commentary

yeah ok I'm good. ¬_¬ was worried some other BS was happening.

VOTE: unwnd for the bad claim

Like if you got a town result why claim instantly? doesn't make sense to me :/

Sure, question unwnd, that's all well and good.

I mean, I'm getting serious cult/3p vibes from PS, ngl

Swinging focus to cult-hunting, although I'll note that for progression I like the move from scum-reading PS here to townreading them later, even if it's all rather flimsy.

Is there any reason to talk about how we went from 14 town to 11 with three town killed at night and Korina supposedly getting turned into a town.

Seems like a lot of speculation that would be required unless I'm missing something.

This is a good point though, and ngl I missed that.

14-3(=11)+1=12...

Unless someones genuinely been culted, at which point I can imagine Korina losing their mind entirely :3

Playing with the numbers, but phrasing feels weird here.

Korina are you a town-aligned survivor now? Or just VT with post restriction?

Makes sense to me Korina, you gotta question the numbers though :/

Casting doubt on Korina here.

Makes sense to me Korina, you gotta question the numbers though :/

I think Korina is telling the truth. I'm sure there are plenty of roles that can affect alignment so it wouldn't be a surprise if someone was changed to scum as well.

oh 100%, like the frustrations seem real to me.

Why are we on jake again?

But retracts quickly when challenged.

...Korina really isn't making sense to me, ngl.
He can't be culted, makes a nice big dance about groupscum can't be culted, sam died last night after dropping the visiting korina line...


VOTE: Korina - I smell rotten doggy farts

And yet goes right back on it to the point of voting Korina.

oh and we have a missing townie in theory

In theory?

Korina, I know you did, but we've a missing person, and as pointed our previousy...
We started yesterday with 14 town. we started today with 11 town, 3 died.

So theres a discrepancy.

Retreading this again to try to come up to justify Korina vote.

*pets the lionbearthing*

7 of 8.5 required...

The amount of 3p in this game is nuts...

jakey you should claim

3p talk

At this point, I'm calling 14/2/1/1/1/1/1

scum are probably wolfing in town at this point as we seem to be 3p hunting.

More 3p talk

Damn this got deep o.o

I'm sticking to my korina vote btw.
Convince me otherwise.

*sips tea*

Despite that it's been discussed that eliminating Korina doesn't give us anything we can't get by waiting another night phase to see an updated count, having established that it's in pretty much any faction's interest to leave the claimed town counter alive, which means we'll probably get it. Unless there's a cult with a kill, in which case I flip the table because yikes.

This whole 'I'm not moving my vote' thing also reads as convenient to me. It's pretty clear that a Korina elim isn't going to happen today. But that kind of stance lets Flea sit in the background and votepark where fae knows it won't amount to anything.

Thats part of the problem though, like I'm sitting on 14/2/1/1/1/1/1 and right now I'm thinking Korina is a smart doggo and is one of the 2.

Like until I have legit reason as to why the numbers are wrong, thats where I'm staying.

Liking the spicyness form PS.

Mason claim aside (which I'm not holding against Flea, this game is cluttered as fuck), I'm not seeing where the original Survivor claim got her to end game nor how Korina-groupscum makes much sense. It's not utterly impossible, but it assumes a lot of serendipity that there's no way Korina could have predicted Day One.

ngl I'd love to get culted right now, Im not interested in culting as an actual mechanic in this game, and the numbers indicate thats legitimate currently.

I'm worried about about the 2 maf getting a free ride as we flail and panic around the various 3P claims and distractions.

For me today its Unwnd for the cock up, or korinas potential fakeclaim. Those are the only two I'm willing to vote rn and honestly I'd be willing to put them as the mafSolve

I'm seeing a lot of assumptions in Flea's posts that don't come from anywhere logical given the game thread.

Happy to engage on what I'm seeing with anyone willing to read the spoilered wall, but I'd particularly like to hear from unwnd and PS, given their town reads on the slot. What am I missing here? Also Disney Princesses, as Nacho's probably the player most familiar with me around. And they need to get in here anyways.

--PA

[unwnd]

Well, without completely setting Flea off

Take my read with a grain of salt. I don't think Flea's depth as a player (no offense) goes so far that faer can fake the exhaustive process fae did earlier

[unwnd]

I'm not against flea possibly being cult though, townread doesn't feel like the right thing I would call Flea, I am definitely giving faer passes because I've seen faer's behavior from a mod perspective and this is checking all the same boxes

[Flea The Magician]

Wasnt a plea, more a commentary. It genuinely pisses me off people keep calling bad faith on me.

I'm leaving it at that for now.

[Angry Birds]

Well, without completely setting Flea off

Take my read with a grain of salt. I don't think Flea's depth as a player (no offense) goes so far that faer can fake the exhaustive process fae did earlier

Exhaustive process?

--PA

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Well, without completely setting Flea off

Take my read with a grain of salt. I don't think Flea's depth as a player (no offense) goes so far that faer can fake the exhaustive process fae did earlier

Flea is one of the best fake exhaustive process players I have ever played against.

Flea was one of the best scum players in SS3 and was only revealed because Flea did the scummiest hammer ever.

[unwnd]

Well, without completely setting Flea off

Take my read with a grain of salt. I don't think Flea's depth as a player (no offense) goes so far that faer can fake the exhaustive process fae did earlier

Flea is one of the best fake exhaustive process players I have ever played against.

Flea was one of the best scum players in SS3 and was only revealed because Flea did the scummiest hammer ever.

Ah so it's invalid? My read is mostly from seeing their town game and assuming it would be hard to fake as scum for them

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

Flea's scum game is scary lol

[unwnd]

Well in your opinion what do you think this is then

[PookyTheMagicalBear]

I can't read flea for shit but I think flea is town for reasons I'm not allowed to explain due to site rules