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[Looker]

Looker is an enigma to me. Like the wagon has only little resistance which makes me feel bad about it, not even survivalistic behaviour, but there isn't coming anything noteworthy from him. Instead that Wake vote, fingerpointing at jan and finally that awful Saudade vote. Like I can overlook Wake's vote if I ignore logic, but that's nothing redeeming.

A bigger enigma is how someone can fake a guilty, get caught, confess and have no heat thrown their way by anyone. No one will even tell me what the purpose was. Is this because I thought votes reset when you replaced in? I don't think an honest mistake should outweigh a vindictive exploit. But, hey, don't mind me; I'm "awful".

[skitter30]

i guess i'm ok with looker if that's what we're stuck on today

the slot does need to go before lylo

in case i die:

- skellen is a mason
- i am *very* confident on saudade town (and wake's vote on him is ridiculous, but wake's doubting of masons probably doesn't come from scum)
- i'm p sure jan is town

i think all scum are in {garmr, looker, tictac, creature, wake}, in roughly that order, and i want jan to check one of those people

i will make sure to leave my thoughts in the masonry overnight

[skitter30]

i still think mariar was townie for her tho, i just want to highlight that

wake, don't lol-lose the game tomorrow by lolvoting for masons.
just like if you're town and do that after i went to bat for you i'll be kinda pissed

[AaronFrost]

Prodding Creature

[tictac]

k then

VOTE: Looker

L-1

[Garmr]

i guess i'm ok with looker if that's what we're stuck on today

the slot does need to go before lylo

in case i die:

- skellen is a mason
- i am *very* confident on saudade town (and wake's vote on him is ridiculous, but wake's doubting of masons probably doesn't come from scum)
- i'm p sure jan is town

i think all scum are in {garmr, looker, tictac, creature, wake}, in roughly that order, and i want jan to check one of those people

i will make sure to leave my thoughts in the masonry overnight

Sorry but I don't you will die out of of you and Skellen, Skellen seems to have better reads.

Unless like scum wants to frame me. Scum please try to frame me.

[Garmr]

Don't think*

[tictac]

it's sometimes okay to just think thoughts.
typing them all out isn't necessary.

[skitter30]

was that addressed to me?

[tictac]

no,to garm

[january]

Looker is an enigma to me. Like the wagon has only little resistance which makes me feel bad about it, not even survivalistic behaviour, but there isn't coming anything noteworthy from him. Instead that Wake vote, fingerpointing at jan and finally that awful Saudade vote. Like I can overlook Wake's vote if I ignore logic, but that's nothing redeeming.

A bigger enigma is how someone can fake a guilty, get caught, confess and have no heat thrown their way by anyone. No one will even tell me what the purpose was. Is this because I thought votes reset when you replaced in? I don't think an honest mistake should outweigh a vindictive exploit. But, hey, don't mind me; I'm "awful".

hm but i didn’t “get caught” and frankly i think you’re purposely misrepresenting me and ignoring what i’ve said (lol sound familiar, garmr?)
i could have just kept the claim of guilty on u and we’d honestly be in the exact same spot. except you’d be lynched faster
but i didn’t
not sure why you’re portraying that as scummy when i have basically no reason to retract it as scum

if you’re town i guess i’ll say sorry but i won’t really mean it because you haven’t even attempted to towntell so it’s really on you

[january]

sorry have been super busy the last few days but back now

skitter wanna hammer
i think this is the one lynch i’m actually correct on and i have never confident on a lynch before lol

[Garmr]

I been thinking about Flavour leafs role. It doesn't make sense for the masons alone. With no neighbours I been thinking maybe scum got a neighbourizer or something similar.

I think with flavours lynch they A. Didn't use it for fear of being insti scum read or B used it on Una then night killed them when something went wrong.

If the loud called out peoples alignments when used on a neighbourhood maybe they could fake guilties with Flavour alive.

This is me trying to speculate a way to balance this game.


@Jan do you get results even if they weren't visited or is the mod doing it differently than site rules.

[january]

wait what is your question

[january]

i get either motion, no motion, or roleblocked/action failed or whatever i think

[january]

yeah sorry roleblocked would be the same as action failed so like no result for both
sorry trying to avoid accidentally quoting pm

[january]

wouldn’t the masons already be balancing FL’s role
i’m assuming mason as a role would always show as complex right
so it’s like either he finds mafia or outs a mason

i’d say probably a vanilla scum too would probably be enough to balance?
idk that much about setup balancing, mostly play open setups altho i’ve tried to design a few setups but they kinda all turned out unbalanced lol
dunno whether it’s worth the effort to try to speculate to nsg’s previous setups? feels like her other setup that i saw was a lot more simpler in terms of modifiers but this ones got way more role modifiers

[january]

guessing the announcing part would balance most of it out bc scum would know they got investigated right
and FL can either out and they kill him or he doesn’t out but they’re looking for him

that being said i think it’s extremely unlikely that there’s a protective role in this game with FL being way too powerful for a follow the cop kind of play and my role being pretty strong w finding conftowns

my role is so fkin weird it’s like mostly useless as a motion detector but it’s basically a cop with the modifier
also almost 100% sure maf has some sort of roleblocking power, since i’m assuming there’s no town ascetic otherwise they would have claimed already

so id say 1 nilla maf to counter FL’s role and a roleblock ability of some sort to counter mine
if protective role exists then maybe strongman to counter
i think a neighborhood AND masons would be a little weird but it’s possible i guess. if a neighborhood exists it’s definitely maf

[january]

i’m just talking to myself at this point but anyone who sees this feel free to agree or disagree or call me a complete idiot

lol

[january]

gonna do a lil bit of nka
i don’t particularly like using this bc there’s usually some wifom involved and it’s usually easier for maf to fake frame people compared to actually towntelling
but might as well add it since i’m here and awake and have nothing better to do

[january]

I mean Una could as well been killed off for this D1 post #471

I don't think my trophies really match with my aforementioned

ascetic

values, but they do make me feel better just by being on display. And I guess that's all that matter.

not sure if i’m seeing the same thing as u skellen
was this what u were talking about wrt 471? or was there something else PR-softy or something

[january]

oops that wasn’t a saudade quote no idea how i messed up that formatting

[january]

combed through that whole post 3 times without finding anything besides just a weird post in general lol

[january]

gamma kill kinda makes sense to me i probably would have gone for them tbh
seemed like he would probably be very difficult to lynch later on

i actually did think una was towny but i don’t think anyone else agreed with me on that so i think he was either killed as a PR read somehow (trying to figure out this rn) or because he was pushing on scum and they got scared. but i don’t think the scum pushing thing would be as likely unless he was pushing on multiple scum

i saw what skellen said abt gamma and una’s reads but i think so far that gamma actually said they didn’t fos garmr(?) or at least didn’t really want them lynched. idk just wanted to put that there. gonna check on una now
atm i think it’s most likely scum thought una was PR for some reason, maybe something from the 471 post that i missed or don’t understand, or maybe the ascetic thing although i’m not exactly sure why scum would try to kill ascetic

[Skellen]

@jan:
Have limited access at work rn, so I will do it without quoting.

Read Una's post again, he crumbed a Vig shot (pistol) that he was going to holster and an investigative ability (grandpa's spyglass ) that he would use in that night. And as you said, ascetic.

Thought it was over the top, but well he crumbed it.