micro 816-I: spaam (normal game) (gambe over)

[Flavor Leaf]

Odd night watcher, I believe. We’d have to believe they were same night.

[RadiantCowbells]

setup A is fine as is with a goon

setup B requires pretty heavy scum power, probably a full jailkeeper or a rolecop + something small

[RadiantCowbells]

Do tell

Tell what? Is it not obvious?

I think your response to someone pointing out you just completely changed a read that you had been talking about for a good part of the game was complete bull. You tried to play your mistake all cool like but I believe that you just scum slipped.

I'm surprised that others are letting you get away with a wonky reads list that you then tried to describe as a reaction test.

this is pretty awful

[GeminiTwin12]

why did irrelephant try to push the lynch on mutant > gamma yesterday if they're buddies?

For appearances. If you remember, Irrelephant only tried to push the lynch on Mutant > Gamma after you had already said we were lynching Gamma

[Flavor Leaf]

Yeah. Goon and odd night roleblocker vs odd night watcher, doc, Enabler makes sense.

[RadiantCowbells]

We're lynching in doc claims today

[RadiantCowbells]

FL Mutant

Forget your own alignment: who is scum in docs and why?

[RadiantCowbells]

Docs can crossvote now

[RadiantCowbells]

Mutant don't vote anyone idc what your reads are

If you think Gemini is scum sell me don't vote her

[Flavor Leaf]

Basically, even before Gemeni claimed, the only thing that made sense from my perspective was that Gemeni was the actual protective, because Mutant and Irrelephant set me up to be the mislynch here.

Mutant probably claimed his actual role as scum.

I was acting like I had a role all day yesterday, and after being the only one not on Gamma, town doesn’t roleblock me.

Also, my analysis on why everyone on the Irrelephant wagon was town was completely correct Day 2, which makes sense as to why mutant stated he would hammer Irrelephant, but never did, and took their sweet time.

After I was confirmed not to be the doctor with my opening, Irrelephant claimed his partner was the kill to setup this direct 2v2, and Mutant roleblock claim was safe because TownIrrelephant = townMutant in that sense, but they were both scum.

This also fits my theory from earlier when I said Irrelephant takes the place of Gamma in my Gamma/Mutant scum team when a i was able to townlock Gamma.

[RadiantCowbells]

I mean I'd question why they want the all in on you but I guess they might have thought I wouldn't vote Gemini no matter what

[RadiantCowbells]

If we lose we lose because our first two lynches were shit ftr

Ircher basically gt and y'all quicklynched TW while I wasn't here

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean I'd question why they want the all in on you but I guess they might have thought I wouldn't vote Gemini no matter what

Why do you question it? I’ve been bringing up how you incorrectly scum read me multiple times this game.

[Flavor Leaf]

If we lose we lose because our first two lynches were shit ftr

Ircher basically gt and y'all quicklynched TW while I wasn't here

And the Gamma lynch was poor.

I don’t really think any of those mislynches add up. That’s just how games go. If scum win, it’s generally because they got solid mislynches and got themselves out Scott free.

[Flavor Leaf]

I mean I'd question why they want the all in on you but I guess they might have thought I wouldn't vote Gemini no matter what

Also, I claimed VT is why. They had to go all in on the non doctor.

[Flavor Leaf]

I’d rather go Mutant today, since that forces Irrelephant to not kill Gemeni, and Gemeni can potentially get another save, but that’s from my confirmed perspective now.

Plus, Mutant/RC/Flavor final 3 is scary.

[Flavor Leaf]

I saw this coming from a while back, though.

I started saying I was going to end up being the game losing mislynch.

I don’t necessarily think that’s the case here.

I’m obnoxious, but I’m not scum.

[RadiantCowbells]

You should realize if mutant flips scum the game is solved universally

[RadiantCowbells]

Fmpov mutant is a strictly inferior lynch to Irrelephant so that's never happening, sorry.

[Flavor Leaf]

You should realize if mutant flips scum the game is solved universally

? I don’t think I ever insinuated it wasn’t.

[Flavor Leaf]

Fmpov mutant is a strictly inferior lynch to Irrelephant so that's never happening, sorry.

No, I get it.

It’s just long journey for a short drink of water kinda deal. Spending a lot of time for the same end result.

But I get it.

[Flavor Leaf]

You should realize if mutant flips scum the game is solved universally

And you’ve been contemplating Irrelephant/FL, which is why I brought up that final 3 being scary.

[RadiantCowbells]

Should I not be?

[Irrelephant11]

I shouldn't really have to tryhard here but I have decided I'm going to tryhard here anyway

I mean, this game is on you at this point.

We’re in a direct 2v2 with you on the side.

I can case why the scum team is Mutant/Irrelephant if you’d like. I already made a post on it in my pt with Profii.

Partners slip?
Town!FL would know it could still be RC/gemini who no-kill'd night 2 to prove gemini's fake claim
mutant is the only one 100% confirmed town fmpov
VOTE: gemini is the only one 100% confirmed scum

If we lose we lose because our first two lynches were shit ftr

Ircher basically gt and y'all quicklynched TW while I wasn't here

I actually was thinking about this when deciding on the save. I asked myself: Why haven't I gotten any lynch I wanted?
FL & Gemini. I didn't get to decide anything about the D1 lynch because I was absent when gemini hammered (neither mutant nor I were around)
I didn't get to vote mutant like I said I was going to D2 because FL hammered tw before I got back from v/la
I didn't get the mutant vote yesterday mostly because of you, but meanwhile Flavor TMI'd the lynch when Gamma looked really very scummy and FL had been saying it right up until he was the lynch (and Gamma didn't do anything at the time to deserve a townread)

Let me know if you want me to talk more, RC. Flavor is saying a lot of half truths which is frustrating and I want to argue but if my talking would just get in the way of you solving I don't want to get in the way

Honestly I'm not having fun being in the 1v1 I made the right choice in the night phase and now I feel like I'm being punished for it
RC you were never the night target last night by the way, every pair of scum should have shot outside of semiconf!town for the win, as the doctor would have to correctly identify who their fellow townie was. Gemini's fake claim is fake

[Irrelephant11]

I asked Shoshin if she had thoughts. The below are paraphrased:

Mutant has to be town, because a scum roleblocker could have roleblocked the doctor while the other scum did the kill, guaranteeing a win

What am I missing? RC should see this clearly: mutant is confirmed town. That means it's FL with one of you(Irrelephant) or gemini, and a lynch on FL is always a lynch on scum.