Mini Normal 2111 [Game Over!]

[Skellen]

Also I really doubt that there is a scum Neighborizer, way too many false positives for FL, especially if not all scum are prs.

I suspect they are in some way informed of the Masons though.

[january]

I guess Tictac could be an OK lynch..if their wagon wasn't full of players I do not currently trust.

at the time, votes on tictac were FL, gamma, maria, dunn
maria’s slot is the only living one here
he didn’t quite push on anyone specific here besides tictac tho, so i don’t think it could have been this post that got him killed

645 feels like a minor push on Non’s slot (currently creature, was suji), will see if una continues this push anywhere
863 is funny. almost completely nai but i like it. didn’t have to mention it here lol but i want to

i guess 1243 might have been/seemed like a PR soft? not sure how far i’m stretching right now just to fit into this read

1320 seems like a pretty obvious “not PR claim” imo? think i might have just completely skipped over trying to read this as PR / not PR earlier but hindsight maybe (?) either way i don’t see how Una was anybody’s PR read

Spoiler: garmr push

january is still obvtown

garmr is still scummy

i feel like voting him again
the other people who are good votes: dunn, una, tictac, wake

VOTE: garmr

OK, now THIS I didn't foresee..

@Saudade - get in on some of this.

We lynch Garmr today.
If they flip town, there's nothing to stop a Dunn-lynch tomorrow.
Followed by a red flip and a skitter-lynch.

And if Garmr flips scum..well.
Scumdade much?

Wanna go?

VOTE: Garmr

begins suggesting voting garmr at 1608, but literally just stops mentioning it after this... don’t think it was at a point where garmr would feel particularly uncomfy with the pressure, although it definitely does suggest a future vote on garmr

Spoiler: wake push

You'd rather Dunn not claim at L-1, to possibly prevent a mislynch?

You asking for a claim when you

refuse

to vote him, means that his claim doesn't affect your voting at all.
Hence, his claim shouldn't be of any interest to you.

You wanting to hear a claim makes me think one of two scenarios.
1) You are scum, and know he is town. Therefore you can position yourself like this. Not gonna vote, but hearing a claim is still helpful to you.
2) You are in the same scumteam, and you want him to make a claim that might get him out of the pinch.

And therefore, scumbinned.

he starts pushing wake at 1621 for the tictac claim thing. stronger push than on garmr but still(?) not that strong of a push. sorta kinda get where he’s coming from but i think he just misunderstood wake’s post. also don’t think wake would have felt too much pressure from an easily explain-away-able fos.

therefore after all of this work... i have found that i do not see any strong reason scum would have killed una. it might still be there, idk, but i can’t find it

i don’t want to read my own posts to edit them so
sorry it’s long

[january]

@jan:
Have limited access at work rn, so I will do it without quoting.

Read Una's post again, he crumbed a Vig shot (pistol) that he was going to holster and an investigative ability (grandpa's spyglass ) that he would use in that night. And as you said, ascetic.

Thought it was over the top, but well he crumbed it.

ohh gotcha

i mean
he’s definitely not all 3 (lol) but i guess i could sorta see that

[january]

Also I really doubt that there is a scum Neighborizer, way too many false positives for FL, especially if not all scum are prs.

I suspect they are in some way informed of the Masons though.

was looking for literal words but that is quite an over the top soft lol

[january]

alright going to sleep now that was somewhat fun especially the una read even though it literally got me nowhere

i think it’s more likely that he was killing for softing PR though so i don’t think there’s much to read into re: his reads

[january]

he was killed* not killing

oh and in re: the una Non push he never continued that i’m pretty sure
pt is una didn’t rlly have any tunnel reads on anyone that might have made someone nervous from what i can tell
so probably just a PR read ig

[Looker]

Looker is an enigma to me. Like the wagon has only little resistance which makes me feel bad about it, not even survivalistic behaviour, but there isn't coming anything noteworthy from him. Instead that Wake vote, fingerpointing at jan and finally that awful Saudade vote. Like I can overlook Wake's vote if I ignore logic, but that's nothing redeeming.

A bigger enigma is how someone can fake a guilty, get caught, confess and have no heat thrown their way by anyone. No one will even tell me what the purpose was. Is this because I thought votes reset when you replaced in? I don't think an honest mistake should outweigh a vindictive exploit. But, hey, don't mind me; I'm "awful".

hm but i didn’t “get caught” and frankly i think you’re purposely misrepresenting me and ignoring what i’ve said (lol sound familiar, garmr?)

i could have just kept the claim of guilty on u

and we’d honestly be in the exact same spot. except you’d be lynched faster
but i didn’t
not sure why you’re portraying that as scummy when i have basically no reason to retract it as scum

if you’re town i guess i’ll say sorry but i won’t really mean it because you haven’t even attempted to towntell so it’s really on you

But

why

do it in the first place? And that towntell jab is null.

I am mason, skitter approves of me

[Saudade]

What are you using that smiley for unvote you unwise collaboration of dipoles

[skitter30]

Bleh my gut says looker is just being awful and isnt scum

This is one of those compromise lynches that rc was talking about recently

Creature disappearing is not making me happy either

[Looker]

What are you using that smiley for unvote you unwise collaboration of dipoles

via Imgflip Meme Generator

[Looker]

Don't backpedal. If you're saying I'm scum, say I'm scum. Once I flip, i want accountability. I haven't given up for a reason.

[Wake1]

Bleh my gut says looker is just being awful and isnt scum

This is one of those compromise lynches that rc was talking about recently

Creature disappearing is not making me happy either

I, for one, would like to see Creature pop his head in and contribute.

[Garmr]

I'm more than willing to lynch creature over looker.

[AaronFrost]

Vote Count 3.09

tictac [0]:

Wake88 [0]:

Skellen [0]:

skitter30 [0]:

Garmr [2]:

skitter30, Creature

january [0]:

Looker [4] [L-1]:

january, Garmr, Saudade, tictac

Creature [0]:

Saudade [2]:

Wake88, Looker

Not Voting [1]:

Skellen

With 9 in play, it takes 5 votes to lynch.

Deadline:

(expired on 2020-01-08 10:39:00)

Notes

- skitter30 is regularly V/LA on Fridays and Saturdays
- Creature has (expired on 2020-01-07 22:49:00) to post in thread before I seek replacement

[skitter30]

Ok, i guess any objections to hammer?
Creature is making me nervous tbh

[skitter30]

Should we run it till he needs to ne replaced?

Bleh idk

I know where scum isnt
I dont know where scum is

I dont feel very confident about flipping anyone rn

[january]

But

why

do it in the first place? And that towntell jab is null.

so the looker soft-guilty thing was fake to get some kind of reaction

tbh not exactly sure what I was expecting but felt like i had to do something besides just claim normally (lol)
i expected the vote today to be between me and looker but there's nearly no traction
i think this is maf anyways but his partners are trying to get the lynch onto someone else

possible reactions: you claim ascetic, you don’t claim but say i’m roleblocked, you don’t claim and call me mafia, or several other people call me mafia, or idk what other weird stuff could happen

instead, you just voted wake and basically said “once i’m lynched please vote january tomorrow” which seems like giving up to me. and i don’t think town would give up like that

also i didn’t feel like just claiming regularly because i might as well use my claim and do something about reactions. and you're my scumread so i want other people’s interactions with you

[january]

if we wait for creature to be replaced or come back it’ll probably be nearly right before the deadline
as long as we don’t accidentally not hammer i’d be ok with that
don’t particularly want creature lynched today but it’s probably better to have an active readable replacement instead

[january]

tbh the replacement’s probably not gonna have a chance to do anything til tomorrow anyways

[skitter30]

@mod

If creature doesnt respond before hammer, what will happen to his prod timer?

[skitter30]

Like i just dont want the entire replace cycle to start again tomorrow because we happened to hammer first

I'd rather just hammer right after he's announced to be replaced to guarantee that something will happen with the slot and that he doesnt get to perpetuate the cycle by responding to the prod overnight and starting anew tomorrow

[AaronFrost]

@mod

If creature doesnt respond before hammer, what will happen to his prod timer?

He would need to PM me within the allotted time telling me he still wants to play. If he doesn't then I'll look for a replacement during the night.

[Saudade]

Im hammering when im coming back home in 5 hours

[skitter30]

No, i'll hammer (or you or whoever) once creature posts and does stuff or if he gets replaced

We dont need him to lurk tomorrow too and start the prod cycle agaib

[january]

Like i just dont want the entire replace cycle to start again tomorrow because we happened to hammer first

I'd rather just hammer right after he's announced to be replaced to guarantee that something will happen with the slot and that he doesnt get to perpetuate the cycle by responding to the prod overnight and starting anew tomorrow

i guess fair but
if he does post today are u saying we should vote him instead