Open 525: C9++ (Game Over)

beastcharizard · Post Post #2100 (ISO) » Sun Nov 03, 2013 5:17 am

I want to vote aptil but I think it is the wrong decision. I have a big guy scum read on you now.

aptil · Post Post #2101 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 7:55 am

As we are in lylo , i like to re-look at things . From my pov beast still could have been scum at the start of the day. But his not voting for me straight away has cleared him for me. Now the only thing left to do is vote out guyett.
VOTE: Guyett

Guyett · Post Post #2102 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:07 am

how could he have been scum at the start of the day?

aptil · Post Post #2103 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:23 am

Unlike you i am town and cannot give confirmation just because someone said so .
How was he confirmed town for you?

Guyett · Post Post #2104 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:26 am

...
YKV investigated him... he came back as not scum. The only way this is possible is if he is town or SK with investigation proof power.
Muffin flipped SK so Beast had to be town.

aptil · Post Post #2105 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:28 am

Please show me the post where ykv investigated him.

Guyett · Post Post #2106 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:31 am

In post 1859, YellowKingValley wrote:Oh yeah. No results.

Anyway, beast is cleared.

In post 2011, YellowKingValley wrote:Erm. beast can be SK only. Correction.

aptil · Post Post #2107 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 8:37 am

In post 1859 , that was not a result but a conclusion he came to in my opinion.

beastcharizard · Post Post #2108 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 10:55 am

You guys are both giving me reasons to lynch you.

I think it is time the game ends.

Guyett, one of us is going to stop our losing streak in LYLO after i vote aptil. If you are scum then congrats.

VOTE: aptil

I hate LYLO.

If this loses us the game, I am sorry town.

Guyett · Post Post #2109 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 11:45 am

In post 2107, aptil wrote:In post 1859 , that was not a result but a conclusion he came to in my opinion.

Doesn't read that way imo... not that it matters anyway now

KingdomAces · Post Post #2110 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 1:54 pm

Vote Count

aptil

: Guyett, beastcharizard (2)

Guyett

: aptil (1)

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to lynch.

Does it really matter when the day was scheduled to end.

A lynch has been reached...

Obligatory massive amount of space to build suspense.

aptil,

Vanilla Townie

, has been lynched D5.

beastcharizard,

Vanilla Townie

, was endgamed D5.
Guyett,

Mafia Goon

, survived and won D5.

Wake1 · Post Post #2111 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:02 pm

Ha. Interesting.

beastcharizard · Post Post #2112 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:02 pm

Welp, i should have seen this coming.

GG, please start killing me before LYLO.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #2113 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:04 pm

Good game, everyone.

Wake1 · Post Post #2114 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:07 pm

If my 2nd replacement hadn't soiled himself, it would have hopefully been not just a bullet but a knife I'd take as VT.

That was my gambit, and Yraelz went with it probably because I would have been a magnet for night kills.

KingdomAces · Post Post #2115 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:28 pm

Night Actions:

N1

Venrob doc's Yrarlz
YKV cop's Shamrock
Muffin kills Regfan
Shamrock doc's Yrarlz
Viera RB's Yrarlz
Yessiree kills HP

N2

Muffin kills Matias
YKV cops Beast
Viera blocks Venrob
Viera kills Matias
Shamrock docs YKV

N3

YKV cops zMuffinMan
Shamrock protects YKV
Muffin kills Venrob
Guyett kills Shamrock

N4

Guyett kills YKV
YKV cops Guyett

Original Dead QT
Mod/Spoiled Dead QT
Mafia QT

Normally I'd wait for the mafia to give out their QT on their own, but Regfan/SPAG never posted in it, and I don't think that there's anything worth hiding in the five times Guyett posted.

I'll make a big postgame speech later, but really want to say right now is STOP FAKECLAIMING!
Also, don't talk about ongoing games.
Or post after you've been replaced.
Or get into personal arguments in the middle of the game thread.
Or flake.

Yeah.

Venrob · Post Post #2116 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:32 pm

Must agree with the stop fakeclaiming. Beast, should have gone with your guyett scum gut of him quickvoting. Haste loses games, after all. Shamrock, you could have protected me instead of YKV, which would have resulted in another town. Then again YKV was cop and also a valid protection option. Meh. Overall, GG!

beastcharizard · Post Post #2117 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 2:47 pm

After I voted aptil i had deja vu about the first LYLO I was in. It felt like the exact same situation as the first time I was in LYLO.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #2118 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:00 pm

I realized that I couldn't claim BP not five seconds after I selected it. I went with it anyway with the mindset of playing as aggressive scumhunting townie with no regards to NKs.

Sorry for the trouble I caused. Though I made sure not to break any rules regarding behavior(up until the end probably) my replace out was in poor form, and I overreacted all to hell.

Thanks for modding, KA.

This game was nothing if not amusing.

Wake1 · Post Post #2119 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:02 pm

In post 2115, KingdomAces wrote: I'll make a big postgame speech later, but really want to say right now is STOP FAKECLAIMING!
Also, don't talk about ongoing games.
Or post after you've been replaced.
Or get into personal arguments in the middle of the game thread.
Or flake.

Yeah.

I'll fakeclaim if I think it'll help Town.

And I'll respond to any coward who thinks he can call me a fucking idiot in-thread, regardless of rules.

Kazekirimaru · Post Post #2120 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:04 pm

lol@ everyone in the QT rooting for an SK win.

Damn me for picking 1-Shot BP. Sorry, Muffin. You carried our slot better than I could have. I thought you had it.

zMuffinMan · Post Post #2121 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:05 pm

it's a bad idea to fake-claim in C9++ IMO
it's a bad idea to softclaim in C9++ IMO

just... don't do it in open/semi-open setups without a really, really good goal in mind, and only when it's very, very unlikely to backfire in some way.

Wake1 · Post Post #2122 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:06 pm

In post 2121, zMuffinMan wrote:it's a bad idea to fake-claim in C9++ IMO
it's a bad idea to softclaim in C9++ IMO

just... don't do it in open/semi-open setups without a really, really good goal in mind, and only when it's very, very unlikely to backfire in some way.

I did so explicitly in C9++ because of the wiggle room. Gave the real Doc (if any) enough reason to NOT counter).

zMuffinMan · Post Post #2123 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:08 pm

like, one of the major points about C9++ that makes it not only a good setup, but a good setup to play multiple times, is that town can actually work out the roles and spot lies or likely lies (like what happened with venrob vs spag)

when you have people fake-claiming or lying about their role, it hurts town more than it helps because you can't really know whether they're scum doing what's convenient for them at the time or town being foolish

+ honestly, no one is going to take a shot at a claimed doc in C9++ when they can just roleblock them and have free reign over the entire playerlist. any other doc in the game is likely to protect the claimed doc just because there's a possibility of multiple docs in this setup (albeit unlikely).

zMuffinMan · Post Post #2124 (ISO) » Mon Nov 04, 2013 3:09 pm

like, there was absolutely no way i was shooting you because scum could roleblock OR kill you if they didn't roleblock you, so i saw no point in touching you. and if scum roleblocked you, they had free reign over who they wanted to kill

so your fakeclaim only hurt town, it didn't draw night actions