SWN II: The Curse of the Nekomata (Game over!)

[Pomegranate]

Syke:

1. I don't get it.

2. There are few players that I hold in such high esteem that I wouldn't look at meta. No offense intended, but you aren't one of them.

3. The fact that fencesitting got you to endgame doesn't mean fencesitting is is a pro-town thing. I'm betting you got to endgame because scum didn't think that you looked obvtown enough to kill (and that you could be a potential mislynch).

[RayFrost]

Thanks for the ninja, RF. Much appreciated.

No problem. Want fries with that?

[sykedoc]

Syke:
That fencesitting got you to endgame doesn't mean fencesitting is is a pro-town thing. I'm betting you got to endgame because scum didn't think that you looked obvtown enough to kill (and that you could be a potential mislynch).

Completely missing what I was trying to say. I'm saying I got endgamed (lose because the game ENDED) because I was fencesitting. I'm not saying its a pro-town thing. I'm giving you an example of when it was done in a non-scum situation.

Also how do you not understand my first point? If I am late to class once, does this mean I'm a late person and clearly will always be late?

[LlamaFluff]

SSK, Tubby. Out of interest are you two in a quick chat of any sort and if so do your Post Restriction still aply?

This is not important at this stage of the game

Perhaps not. To be honest I never expected there would be, but by god it would be funny. But the answer was non.

Why would this ever be useful for us right now? It actually is something best kept hidden for obvious reasons if you stop and think about it. Pushing for the reveal because it would be 'funny' ignores all the downsides.

Ani. Is some mechanism that you can confirm or deny the restrictions? (Besides the obvious getting someone flipped) I'm not fussed what it is, just if there is one.

This is not something to be discussed at this point of the game.

Why would you think that either of those should be out in the open?

Actually I would think this is reasonable to ask. Ani could always refuse to answer. He did start right out asking about post restricted players, saying that it was important to his role if I remember correctly, so it is fair to ask if he has some way to confirm or deny them. After all if any of the Post Restricted players are scum Ani has already painted a target on himself. Answering my question, or even me asking that question of him, wont make that target any worse.

I disagree majorly. If ani has any power connected to PRs that confirm/cure/etc them, he will use them correctly, I trust him to at least do that much. What you are doing stands to out his power, if he has one, and lets scum gauge how much of a threat he is better.

I dont like how he has played the role, holding his cards tight untill he saw people post once looks like a better way to approach this, but what you want him to do is much worse

unvote
Vote DocPotter

Meta based wagon is bad. Meta is a supplement to a case, not the main reason behind it.

[animorpherv1]

Do not hammer me until you know my role

How many people are in this game? 25. That's 13 to lynch. No deal if you have 5 votes.

Did you read? I said that I was saying this as a warning because things tend to go quickly.

Yeah, but if that happens, there is bound to be a scum on your wagon. If not, several.

[Pomegranate]

Syke:
That fencesitting got you to endgame doesn't mean fencesitting is is a pro-town thing. I'm betting you got to endgame because scum didn't think that you looked obvtown enough to kill (and that you could be a potential mislynch).

Completely missing what I was trying to say. I'm saying I got endgamed (lose because the game ENDED) because I was fencesitting. I'm not saying its a pro-town thing. I'm giving you an example of when it was done in a non-scum situation.

Also how do you not understand my first point? If I am late to class once, does this mean I'm a late person and clearly will always be late?

1. But that doesn't make fencesitting pro-town.

2. It means that I'm more likely to expect that you will be late than if you never were.

[My Milked Eek]

Syke:
That fencesitting got you to endgame doesn't mean fencesitting is is a pro-town thing. I'm betting you got to endgame because scum didn't think that you looked obvtown enough to kill (and that you could be a potential mislynch).

Completely missing what I was trying to say. I'm saying I got endgamed (lose because the game ENDED) because I was fencesitting. I'm not saying its a pro-town thing. I'm giving you an example of when it was done in a non-scum situation.

Also how do you not understand my first point? If I am late to class once, does this mean I'm a late person and clearly will always be late?

1. But that doesn't make fencesitting pro-town.

2. It means that I'm more likely to expect that you will be late than if you never were.

Why do you keep shoving this in his face? He knows it's not a pro-town thing to do, he said so in the quote you brought up. The fencesitting and the stupid meta case you are holding onto is disproven by his meta. Face it.

[wolframnhart]

I am not a fan of meta cases, so i do not find sykedoc to be scum, but not town either, so for now i am putting him in neautral zone.

I do however find datadanne scummy. He comes in, has obviously read enough to claim no pr, but votes deathnote just because "he sucks at playing mafia."

No comments on the game so far, just a crappy vote for a crappy reason.

unvote

just incase

vote datadanne

[animorpherv1]

Just to point it out, wolf, your acting differently then in Open 192. It may be because this is Day 1, but come Day 2. if your still acting like this, I wouldn't expect to be around much longer.

[My Milked Eek]

Just to point it out, wolf, your acting differently then in

Open 192

Mini 807. It may be because this is Day 1, but come Day 2. if your still acting like this, I would

n't

expect to be around much longer.

[wolframnhart]

So either

A)Act differently then as i am on day 2 (if i make it to day 2) which might make people believe I have something to hide because a player told me to act differently and I take said advice

or

B)Don't act differently and expect to die?

[animorpherv1]

That was woded horribly. Sorry. The threat doesn't need to be there.

[wolframnhart]

LoL thanks MME i completely forgot i was in 807, i didn't put it in my list of games because I had to be replaced out of it.

@Ani
It's fine, i just wanted to point out that it did seem like a threat.

[animorpherv1]

What a day, I make a non-existent threat, AND I got trolled.

[StrangerCoug]

As soon as I get a vote count done, I'm going to have Tarhalindur come in here. Something is up with my ISP and has been since early yesterday.

[StrangerCoug]

VOTE COUNT

Anon (1): Pomegranate
Datadanne (1): wolframnhart
DeathNote (1): Datadanne, RayFrost
DocPotter (1): LlamaFluff
Kairyuu (2): FishytheFish, sykedoc
Parama (2): Sanhora, ace5993
RayFrost (2): animorpherv1, SaintKerrigan
sykedoc (3): Anon, Kairyuu, DeathNote
wolframnhart (1): DocPotter
Not voting (11):, Bogre, DedicatedScribe, kyle99, MafiaSSK, My Milked Eek, Nul, pman5595, tubby216, xuie77, Parama

With

25

players alive, it takes

13

votes to lynch.

Pomegranate's vote at #212 does not count as she didn't unvote first.

[Pomegranate]

Unvote; Vote: Sykedoc

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[Fishythefish]

I asked the mod about warnings/modkills/quotations. In his reply, he didn't mention warnings, I get modkilled if I don't post in pink, no problem with quotes.

@other players with post restrictions, and everyone else:
In SWN I postgame, SC said he intended to save a modkill until night to give the illusion that a mafia faction was still killing. This may well point to SC being a little modkill-happy. I would be

extremely

careful to keep within your PR at all times, as I suspect in certain circumstances he will want an excuse, rather than a reason.

[Tarhalindur]

Hello, this is your backup mod speaking.

Indigo is my color. Don't use it.

Also, a warning: I am EXTREMELY strict on modkills involving role PM quoting. If there is ANY question as to whether it's acceptable, assume it's a modkill offense so long as I am stepping in. - Tar

[My Milked Eek]

Unvote; Vote: Sykedoc

.

So you still want to cling on onto a bad case?

[StrangerCoug]

This may be another quick fix since I called my ISP (I think they fixed the problem; it just took effect a bit late), but just to make absolute sure I'm not browsing with a time bomb, I'm leaving Tarhalindur at the helm for now. I'll take the game back tomorrow if the net does not cut out again before I get home tomorrow.

[Pomegranate]

Unvote; Vote: Sykedoc

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So you still want to cling on onto a bad case?

For right now, yes. I want to get a good explanation out of him first.

[sykedoc]

Unvote; Vote: Sykedoc

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So you still want to cling on onto a bad case?

For right now, yes. I want to get a good explanation out of him first.

There's nothing to explain
I behaved one way in one particular game. What do you need an explanation for?

[Pomegranate]

Aaahh... I'm convinced enough for now.

Unvote

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[Parama]

Honestly, syke doesn't seem to be making any sense to me right now. You really have no reads 10 pages into the thread? I even have a few at this point and I'm usually pretty bad on those myself.
Stubbornness to actively not contribute even when called out for it is also making my scumdar go off. Syke also overreacted to a small number of votes, already worried about a hammer that is several votes away. I don't see a townie being worried about being at L-8 or so.
Eek, what makes Pom's case bad? I understand that meta cases are generally weak and would probably agree with you on that, but the case wasn't based solely on syke's scummy meta, but his actions he claims to be justified by his meta. Which is a weak defense more than anything.
Ray, what made you change your policy lynch vote from ace to DeathNote? If you want both of them policy lynched anyways, what has made you decide you want DN lynched even more than ace? (personally if I had to choose between the two I'd pick ace just because of how annoying his posts are to read because of his claimed post restriction )