The Children of Húrin Mafia (GREAT REVIVAL)


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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:04 pm

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How so?
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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 10:20 pm

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MoI calling Mos out suggest he has some info we don't on the matter, your plan completely ignores this.

Your plan doesn't actually give us new info about MoS it just stops the mafia from killing you if MoS is town, and if MoS is scum it lets them kill you and setup a mislynch before we realize that fact.

No one already died last night suggesting there is some other protective or proventative role at work still, which negates the little value that would be gained by having him watch you.

Am I missing something?
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Mon Nov 28, 2011 11:05 pm

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I was purposefully ignoring MoI's thing, which he will reveal when he wants to / it is prudent.

If MoS is town, the mafia will probably kill him, alleviating the issue altogether. If MoS is scum and I die... well, there are very few scenarios in which scum would elect to kill me in that situation, I think. And probably we'd just lynch MoS anyway in all cases.
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2012 12:53 pm

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Did you see a post saying that this thread was dead and left to rot? Surely you didn't.



Above is a cache of the lost posts of this game, including this page, compiled by some Vi person I might have heard of before this venture.

Page 99, which has the endgame scene and reveal and etc, got truncated by Google for being so ridiculously long.
You may blame Plum for this, and if you read through the roles, you'll see why. :P

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~BONUS CONTENT~


First and foremost - Since I know reactions to this game were not necessarily positive, I have taken a significant amount of effort to ensure that downloading this cache will be worth your while. Try it. You'll see what I mean. :]

Second! Presenting the role actions, which were truncated in the cache!

Spoiler: Day 1
H1a - Activate Latent Ability: Magister Ludi (no effect; not Latent to activate)
M1a - Grant Status: Tailor: SpyreX (SpyreX will react as anti-Town to all Cop-type actions - including Weak Doctor)
H1b - Activate Latent Aiblity : Will-O-Wisp (activates Bodyguard ability)
M1b - Mask Past Manipulation: M1a (M1a will now return 'No Result' to Manipulation Investigations)
H1c - Neighborize: MagnaofIllusion (new shared quicktopic, Magna given access)
M1c - Tailor: Espeonage (Espeonage will react as Town to all Cop-type actions - including Weak Doctor)
H1d - Grant Status: Bulletproof (Oneshot): MagnaofIllusion (MagnaofIllusion is immune to the first action that would otherwise kill him)
M1d - Mask Past Manipulation: M1c (M1c will now return 'No Result' to Manipulation Investigations)

MoI is in the QuickTopic

SpyreX is a MILLER
Espeonage is a GODFATHER
Will-o-wisp is a BODYGUARD
MagnaofIllusion is ONE-SHOT BULLETPROOF


Spoiler: Night 1
Night 1 Actions

Empking - Mind Restore: gandalf5166
Wraith - (Weak Doctor) Protect: gandalf5166
Will-o-wisp - Bodyguard: MagnaofIllusion
Sun and Moon - Kill: Chronopie
Espeonage - Recruit: Andrius
Espeonage - Mentor: gandalf5166
Chronopie - (Doctor) Protect: Andrius
MagnaofIllusion - Rolecop: Feysal
Feysal: Kills Furcolow

Resolution:

1. Espeonage Recruits Andrius - Andrius becomes part of the Mafia team.
2. Empking Mind Restores gandalf5166 - gandalf5166 receives his Town role PM.
3. Espeonage Mentors gandalf5166 - gandalf5166 becomes Espeonage's Mentee but his alignment remains Town.
4. Wraith Doctor-protects gandalf5166 (no change) (gandalf5166 is not anti-Town aligned, so Wraith survives).
5. Will-o-wisp Bodyguards MagnaofIllusion (no change).
6. Sun and Moon kills Chronopie - Chronopie dies (Chronopie is Town-aligned, so Sun and Moon receive the first negative consequence - removal of Bulletproof status).
7. Feysal Kills Furcolow - Furcolow survives and is given the option to change his Win Condition to that of Feysal (Feysal does not receive a positive consequence because he does not succesfully kill).
8. MagnaofIllusion Rolecops Furcolow - receives 'Furcolow is Gurthang'.
[editor's note: Somewhere in this is a typo. Furcolow was Mim; Feysal was Furcolow.]


Spoiler: Day 2
H2a - Neighborize Gut (Gut granted access to the shared quicktopic)
M2a - Activate Latent Ability: Feysal (no change)
H2b - Investigate Past Manipulation, Target: M1d (result: N/A)
M2b - Investigate Past Manipuation, Nature: H2b (result: Investigate Past Manipulation, Target: M1d)
H2c - Activate Latent Ability: Wraith (Wraith granted Oneshot Doctor-Cop ability)
M2c - Neighborize Andrius (Andrius granted access to the shared quicktopic)
H2d - Activate Latent Ability: MagnaofIllusion (MagnaofIllusion gains his Investigate Target ability)
M2d - Revoke Neighborize: MagnaofIllusion

Gut and Andrius are in the QuickTopic

MoI can reveal his target and is ONE-SHOT BULLETPROOF
Wraith is a ONE-SHOT DOCTOR-COP
SpyreX is a MILLER
Espeonage is a GODFATHER
Will-o-wisp is a BODYGUARD


Spoiler: Night 2
Night 2 Actions

Gut - (Doctor) Protect: MagnaofIllusion
gandalf5166 - (Arsonist) Prime: Mastermind of Sin
Empking - Mind Restore: Andrius
Will-o-wisp - Bodyguard: MagnaofIllusion
Mastermind of Sin - Kill: gandalf5166
MagnaofIllusion: Reveal Target
Feysal - Kill: Wraith
Sun and Moon - Kill: Espeonage
Wraith - Doctor-Cop: kanyeknowsbest

Resolution

1. Empking Mind Restores Andrius (no effect).
2. Gut protects MagnaofIllusion (no change).
3. Will-o-wisp Bodyguards MagnaofIllusion (no change).
4. Wraith Doctor-Cop protects kanyeknowsbest (receives result Kanye is not Anti-Town).
5. gandalf5166 primes Mastermind of Sin (Mastermind of Sin is primed).
6. Mastermind of Sin kills gandalf5166 (gandalf5166 dies).
7. Sun and Moon kills Espeonage (fails because of Espeonage's Oneshot-Bulletproof; he receives note that that's been used up).
9. Feysal kills Wraith (Wraith dies).
10. MagnaofIllusion reveals target (receives result Sun and Moon is Túrin).


Spoiler: Day 3
H3a - Investigate Past Manipulation, Nature: M2a (M2a: Activate Latent Ability)
M3a - Revoke Neighborise: Gut
H3b - Investigate Past Manipulation, Target: M2a (M2a: Feysal)
M3b - Investigate Past Manipulation, Target: H3b (H3b - N/A)
H3c - Activate Latent Ability: Gut
M3c - Activate Latent Ability: Mastermind of Sin
H3d - Revoke Latent Ability: MagnaofIllusion

Andrius is in the QuickTopic

MoI can reveal his target and is ONE-SHOT BULLETPROOF
SpyreX is a MILLER
Will-o-wisp is a BODYGUARD
Gut is a BACKUP DOCTOR
Mastermind of Sin is a ROLEBLOCKER


Spoiler: Night 3
Night 3 Actions

Will-o-wisp - Bodyguard SUN AND MOON
Sun and Moon - Kill SPYREX
MagnaofIllusion - Rolename Investigate SPYREX
Empking - Mind Restore ANDRIUS
Gut - protect SUN AND MOON
Andrius - Kill SPYREX
Feysal - kill WILL-O-WISP
Mastermind of Sin - Roleblock HERODOTUS

Resolution

1. Empking Mind Restores Andrius (no change).
2. Will-o-wisp bodyguard-protects Sun and Moon (no change).
3. Gut doctor-protects Sun and Moon (no change).
4. Mastermind of Sin Roleblocks Herodotus (no change).
5. Sun and Moon kills SpyreX/Andrius kills SpyreX (SpyreX dies by both hands)
6. Feysal kills Will-o-wisp (Will-o-wisp dies)
7. MagnaofIllusion Rolename Investigates SpyreX (SpyreX is Finduilas)


Spoiler: Day 4
H4a - Neighborize Magister Ludi
M4a - Revoke Neighorize Andrius
H4b - True Colors on MoS.
M4b - Grant Status Untargetable: Sun and Moon
H4c - Investigate Past Manipulation, Target: H4c
M4c forfeit
H4d - Activate Latent Ability: MagnaofIllusion
M4d - Revoke Neighborize Magister Ludi

No one is in the QT

MoI can reveal his target and is ONE-SHOT BULLETPROOF
Will-o-wisp is a BODYGUARD
Gut is a BACKUP DOCTOR
Mastermind of Sin is a ROLEBLOCKER


Spoiler: Night 4
Night 4:

MoILLUSION is 1xBULLETPROOF (passive, CANCELED at end of Night)
Sun and Moon are UNTARGETABLE (passive, blocks Gut, CANCELED at end of Night)

MoSin BLOCKS Sun and Moon (fails, as Sun and Moon are Untargetable)
Gut DOCTORS Sun and Moon (fails, as Sun and Moon are Untargetable)
Sun and Moon KILLS Andrius (success)
Andrius KILLS MoIllusion (fails, as MoIllusion is 1xBulletproof)
MoIllusion ROLE COPS MoSin (returns Brodda)
Empking MIND RESTORES Furcolow (does nothing!)

Results:
Andrius dies
MoIllusion receives that MoSin is Brodda


Spoiler: Day 5
H5a: Neighborize MagnaofIllusion
M5a: Deactivate MoIllusion's latent ability
H5b: Grant Untargetable - MagnaofIllusion


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And last, some never-before-seen quotes from me and Plum from the mod vista, mostly from early in the game when we were both actually around.

Spoiler: quotez
Plum wrote:I'm using this to note unintentional HILARITY of the game.

1. Espeonage gets to be a recruiter will kill powers again. And both Melisandre and Glaurung are associated with fire and creepy mind-controlling (? haven't read enough A Song of Ice and Fire to be certain exactly, but). AGM is again on his team and wants to coach him.

2. Furcolow drew the one role he explicitly said he didn't want (well, he said he disliked the character). In fact, he wrote a poem about it when he pre-/inned:

i swear i hated that dwarf named mim
i would thank you if i dont end up as him
if you make it so in a roll or a whim
though i will not flake i will go out on a limb
to help out the orcs to take maedthros
or was it turin or a gondolin host
tied up on stakes in angmars pit
heres to hoping we have fun with it

Whoops.

3. Faraday speculates regarding 'if you guys (i.e. Thor665 and AlmasterGM, Morgoth) could have picked the scumteam . . .' That's exactly what the Glaurung role is semi-designed to do.

4. Mind Screw-victim Andrius says he's %90 sure he's Niënor. Good thinking, but . . .

5. Mind Screw-victim Gandalf's claim. I wasn't sure what to expect with the roleless players on Day 1, but . . . it wasn't that.


Vi wrote:gandalf's claim is awesome but might lead to a lynch pretty quickly unless Melian outs herself.

(...)

I very much want the Hurin players to at least pretend to fulfill their end of the "bargain"
[referring to AGM wanting Lost Butterfly to skip their turns in exchange for AGM posting a picture of himself doing something embarrassing]
. This is solely so I can see that picture of AGM.


Vi wrote:
gandalf:
I think Plum gave me this role just to fuck with me.


The absolute best thing that could come from this game is if you got the title "Ah yes, bastard".


Vi wrote:
Faraday:
is espeonage in this game? fhjhfhfdhjf NO ABILITIES FOR YOU MOTHERFUCKER.


:?


Plum wrote:SpyreX is ACTUALLY crumbing his role, probably at attempt to draw the NK as a VT. He's crumbing every post. To quote Andrius in this regard: "
OH FOR THE LOVE OF GOD, SPYREX."
Vi wrote:Also,
Nominate SpyreX for "Pretty Princess"
.


Plum wrote:
"i was just making a huge post about why gandalf is lying, the detriments of what third party he could possibly be based upon the story, and then there is an idiotic flash wagon forming on me? not cool"
- Furcolow
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I want to see this post.


Vi wrote:
Furcolow:
2 guys who don't know who they are? that's wonderful


Oh, it could be better!


Plum wrote:Feysal replaces Katsuki. I think if anyone can pull that slot out of danger he can. He knows the flavor very well and is completely enthusiastic. In fact, he sent me this when confirming:

Kullervo, son of Kalervo,
drew forth his sharp sword,
turning it he looked upon it,
questioning it, inquiring it.
Asked the sword of its opinion,
if the blade might know desire,
to devour his blemished body,
to drink the blood of the wicked.

Understood the sword his mind,
guessed the meaning of the hero,
answered him in words as follows:
"Why should I not eat with relish,
feast upon your flawed flesh,
drink your wicked blood dry?
I do thrive on guiltless flesh,
drink the blood of the innocent."

Kullervo, son of Kalervo,
child of fathers fine and noble,
thrust the hilt into the meadow,
set the haft upon the heather,
aimed the point toward his heart,
threw himself upon the point.
Thus he wrought his own undoing,
met the death of his own making.


I am Gurthang, sword of Beleg Cúthalion and later of Túrin Turambar, and I will bring death to both my masters if I can.

/confirm.


Vi wrote:
Feysal:
TL;DR: Furcolow is far more clueless about the flavor than he thinks, and no one should trust him about anything flavor-related.


I see a flame war coming on.

On a side note, I hope this isn't what I look like when I talk about Fire Emblem...
Plum wrote:Admittedly if I were playing a Tolkien-themed game myself I would be mercilessly into flavor.
Plum wrote:Now actually reading Feysal's flavor, I am hopelessly tempted to correct him on ridiculously minor points. But he's kind of asking for it.

Ohhh, there's more!

I HAVE CREATED A MONSTER IN MINE OWN IMAGE.


Plum wrote:
This is not a world where the dreams of princesses come true. - SpyreX


In flavor, the story of SpyreX's character absolutely vindicates this sentiment.
Plum wrote:Also, it occurred to me last night that Túrin's troubles with rescuing Finduilas after the fall of Nargothrond could basically be summed up as 'Your princess is in another castle'.


Plum wrote:TOO PERFECT. Túrin kills Beleg. Night 1.

I was wondering whether I'd need to write some of my own flavor for the death scenes, but hell. This is too sweet, honestly.


Plum wrote:Insulted by Faraday who speculates that I'm coaching scum to lurk like RC.

Just got hypothetically compared to RC by Faraday. New low?


Anyway, this is the REAL close of this thread. Thanks for stopping by again!
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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:54 pm

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Great work both Vi and Kison on the restore!!!

Huzzah for a game I helped myself to lose!
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:55 pm

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The one game I was hoping to sacrifice to the tigers. >.>
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:57 pm

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In post 2305, Amrun wrote:The one game I was hoping to sacrifice to the tigers. >.>
Look through the cache, knit-cat.
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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2012 1:59 pm

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In post 137, Espeonage wrote:Also serious day ones usually end badly from my experience.

r.i.p. espeonage the recruiter
are you thinking of me when you're with somebody else?
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Thu Mar 22, 2012 11:56 pm

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wooo go Will-o-wisp!


wooo!!

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