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Post Post #2300 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:36 am

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Around the time you jumped on espresso you said something like "shit myko is town" and then you guys mutually townread eachother almost inexplicably.
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Post Post #2301 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:36 am

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In post 2300, Anatole Kuragin wrote:Around the time you jumped on espresso you said something like "shit myko is town" and then you guys mutually townread eachother almost inexplicably.


This is what diffused the myko wagon.
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Post Post #2302 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:39 am

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Okay, I see where you're talking about this. God, I actually completely forgot this section of the game.

So, yeah, myko baited me into an argument and tried to play it off as reaction testing. He does have a history of baiting me and taunting me, which is why I didn't really think anything of it.

When I voted Espressojet, you hadn't voted him yet, I'm fairly sure... at the very least, you hadn't posted a case. My vote on him was because of his posting from 361 through 371. You hadn't really engaged with him that much, just light banter, but certainly not a case.
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Post Post #2303 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:39 am

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In post 446, xRECKONERx wrote:My god myko is town. I actually really liked his case on MattP :c but Mattykins I don't wanna lynch you


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Post Post #2304 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:40 am

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Oh my fuck, I defended myko with meta saying he tortures me all the time, then defended SSK with meta saying he lurks all the time.

I never called them town but holy fuck I'm bad.
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Post Post #2305 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:41 am

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I thought myko's case on TSO was good. It looked good. It made sense. It was a strong case. I still stand by that, even if myko was scum. Scum can put up good cases.
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Post Post #2306 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:41 am

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Post Post #2307 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:41 am

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doesn't flow the same, does it?
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Post Post #2308 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:42 am

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And I know this won't matter much, here, but just FYI, me defending a buddy is like a WTFworthy thing. In my 50 or so scum games, I think I've gone the defend buddy route like twice, whereas I'm infamous for big busses and big plays. I know, self-meta, whatever.

I'm the person who, after the myko stuff died down, I brought up that he had been flying under the radar. Why would I bus my buddy, just to hop off his wagon onto something else, only to bring up that he was being too quiet later after the wagon had died off?
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Post Post #2309 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:45 am

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In post 2303, Anatole Kuragin wrote:
In post 446, xRECKONERx wrote:My god myko is town. I actually really liked his case on MattP :c but Mattykins I don't wanna lynch you


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MattP, later so townie he was willing to sheep him onto Vezok, in order to get MafiaSSK lynched... on day 3.

In post 1347, T S O wrote:If SSK is scum then Reck's scum, I guess.


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Post Post #2310 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:45 am

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Oh let's also look at how mykonian tried to defuse my farside shit yesterday in LYLO by saying it's bias but never explaining why. He has consistently ignored anything to do with farside or tried to passively defend that slot.

P.EDIT: TSO then called me town after that, don't forget.
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Post Post #2311 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:46 am

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In post 2308, xRECKONERx wrote:And I know this won't matter much, here, but just FYI, me defending a buddy is like a WTFworthy thing. In my 50 or so scum games, I think I've gone the defend buddy route like twice, whereas I'm infamous for big busses and big plays. I know, self-meta, whatever.

I'm the person who, after the myko stuff died down, I brought up that he had been flying under the radar. Why would I bus my buddy, just to hop off his wagon onto something else, only to bring up that he was being too quiet later after the wagon had died off?


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Lets try to figure this one out. Which one would a sensible player bus, the goon or the roleblocker?
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Post Post #2312 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:49 am

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farside and reck's iso's both look really bad in regards to ssk/myko
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Post Post #2313 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:49 am

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well played with this lylo, scum
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Post Post #2314 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:50 am

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Not that this game needs a scum roleblocker. Busdriver, Tracker, Jailkeeper, are you kidding me, that's fine versus 3 goons. Adding in the roleblocker is just ridiculous. Especially in a 12 man, town should have at least 1 more power role. BUT THAT'S A POST GAME DISCUSSION

You couldn't possible have realized that when it comes up who to bus. You couldn't possibly afford to start a fight that might start a wagon on the scum roleblocker early in the game.

The scum roleblocker!

PEdit: Anatole, again, it's only well played for Reck. It's crappily played like hell if I'm the scum.
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Post Post #2315 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:51 am

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no, because it provides a million avenues for WIFOM
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Post Post #2316 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:53 am

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farside also voted myko, then found a way to hop off of him onto me after I called myko town.

She passively defends myko in 929 by chainsawing TSO for taking jabs at myko. So she is simultaneously going after me, while thinking TSO is myko's buddy, yet she votes TSO?

After doing a round and round song and dance with myko for several posts, farside finally decides that myko is "just anti-town, not scum". Uhhh. Talk about a smoking gun?

In post 1209, farside22 wrote:Myko: if you are going to be around tonight let me know. I need someone to bounce thought on that I think can keep me sane .
I'll be around about 9pm est.

^ That juicy in-thread scum theater.

In post 1698, mykonian wrote:well, that's one way to join me :/

From myko, said to farside, when she jumped the gun and tried to wagon me again after myko was heavily leaning towards a wagon on me. This isn't scum->town, this is what you say to your buddy.

In 1831, farside chainsaw defends myko AGAIN, this time against Anatole.

More passive defense of myko when she questions Flubber's scumread on him.
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Post Post #2317 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:53 am

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Yes, but look at Flubber's posting. Does that seem like the posting of a man prone to WIFOM? Or the posting of a rather inactive townie who lived in a tunnel? (and yes, I owe him some compliments on the quality of his play after the game, because it was actually quite excellent despite the inactivity)

The only person who needs WIFOM is Reck. I would just need Flubber to vote Reck
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Post Post #2318 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:53 am

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Yes, but look at Flubber's posting. Does that seem like the posting of a man prone to WIFOM? Or the posting of a rather inactive townie who lived in a tunnel? (and yes, I owe him some compliments on the quality of his play after the game, because it was actually quite excellent despite the inactivity)

The only person who needs WIFOM is Reck. I would just need Flubber to vote Reck
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Post Post #2319 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:55 am

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In post 2311, GreyICE wrote:
In post 2308, xRECKONERx wrote:And I know this won't matter much, here, but just FYI, me defending a buddy is like a WTFworthy thing. In my 50 or so scum games, I think I've gone the defend buddy route like twice, whereas I'm infamous for big busses and big plays. I know, self-meta, whatever.

I'm the person who, after the myko stuff died down, I brought up that he had been flying under the radar. Why would I bus my buddy, just to hop off his wagon onto something else, only to bring up that he was being too quiet later after the wagon had died off?


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Lets try to figure this one out. Which one would a sensible player bus, the goon or the roleblocker?

What?

By that logic, we all are potentially scum because all three of us voted myko. SSK was a deadman anyway, so trying to suss out the bussers there isn't really valid.
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Post Post #2320 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:55 am

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In post 1843, Anatole Kuragin wrote:what is a physical tell


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Post Post #2321 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:57 am

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Reading farside's ISO is like going through some sort of lovecraftian portal.
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Post Post #2322 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:57 am

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Anatole, I'm just going to post when you comment on something relevant for me, I don't want to clutter up LYLO.

But I'm town. And I have been all game, and I have been right about farside all game. Don't let Grey's hail mary WIFOM bullshit spin you 'round.

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Post Post #2323 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 7:58 am

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farside's case on me was SO ridiculous
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Post Post #2324 (ISO) » Wed Oct 08, 2014 8:10 am

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Anatole, stop it. Everyone alive here has played objectively poorly (except me, my play has been excellent, but I replaced into a slot that was objectively poor). If you fucking throw away a town win over an OMGUS... that's like newbie play, Anatole.
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