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Post Post #2325 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:11 am

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In post 1679, Vedith wrote:Syndesis is scum, don't let Mario de rail it.

Syndesis spends the entire game with an on the fence stance about basically everything.
The "I was going to shoot TwoFace" is garbage, the "I don't have reads" is trash.

VOTE: Syndesis
when scum has the upper hand in this game, I don't see why scum would "bus" his partner at this point in the game.

he could have easily voted btd and not raised any suspicions.
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Post Post #2326 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:13 am

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In post 2325, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1679, Vedith wrote:Syndesis is scum, don't let Mario de rail it.

Syndesis spends the entire game with an on the fence stance about basically everything.
The "I was going to shoot TwoFace" is garbage, the "I don't have reads" is trash.

VOTE: Syndesis
when scum has the upper hand in this game, I don't see why scum would "bus" his partner at this point in the game.

he could have easily voted btd and not raised any suspicions.
the same reason people always bus- "town me would do this" and "towncred"
good reasons? no- that's a fault with bussing as a whole. but it's perfectly plausible for vedith to do this here.
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Post Post #2327 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:16 am

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In post 1198, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 694, LaLight wrote:oh, come on.

Ingeel makes a townreading wall and in the third post after that here is

I mean, okay, you're catching up, you were vla, but you don't follow yourself here.

VOTE: Ingeel as obv!scum
the tone of this is extremely awkward by the way and isn't a genuine evaluation of anything
like, I don't see the town thought process towards reading this and calling it obv!scum at all
and look at you discrediting a vote on scum.
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Post Post #2328 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:17 am

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In post 2327, TwoFace wrote:
In post 1198, MarioManiac4 wrote:
In post 694, LaLight wrote:oh, come on.

Ingeel makes a townreading wall and in the third post after that here is

I mean, okay, you're catching up, you were vla, but you don't follow yourself here.

VOTE: Ingeel as obv!scum
the tone of this is extremely awkward by the way and isn't a genuine evaluation of anything
like, I don't see the town thought process towards reading this and calling it obv!scum at all
and look at you discrediting a vote on scum.
no, that's me scumreading LaLight for the tone of their posts.
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Post Post #2329 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:22 am

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well given light was town, clearly the tone of his post was fine and since you are in the pool of possible scum, i am trying to find connections and that is a good one...

what was that game where you played MD before? I want to check something.
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Post Post #2330 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:24 am

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People can have wrong reads. Because I'm bad at mafia, this happens fairly often. :P
This is the first time I've ever played as a Motion Detector.
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Post Post #2331 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:30 am

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I thought you played it before, my bad you modded a game with it.

so did you choose people you scum read or town read when making your picks?
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Post Post #2332 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:33 am

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In post 2331, TwoFace wrote:I thought you played it before, my bad you modded a game with it.

so did you choose people you scum read or town read when making your picks?
I leaned towards scumreads, like on N2 or N3, but mostly I chose players who I thought were likely to make the Scum nightkill, because really that's all that Motion Detector is useful for.
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Post Post #2333 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 4:48 am

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Yeah looking at things I still think you are scum. But on the bright side you still have others you can convince
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Post Post #2334 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:07 am

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not really, only iai is willing to lynch syndesis. it feels like i'm on death row. :P
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Post Post #2335 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:36 am

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are mario/syndesis our only lynch options today? like, mario has done a really good job convincing me he's town if he is indeed scum. syn is still very likely vig, so maybe the two do exist together?
idk lynching mario is still probably the best option but i want to see if there is a possibility of maybe lynching nacho or dany? by poe i believe 1 of those 2 are the last scum (probably nacho).
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Post Post #2336 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:42 am

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if we mislynch there today i will almost certainly be lynched in lylo so that doesn't really work, and if you think i'm scum there's obvious advantage to lynching in {mm4, syndesis} anyway
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Post Post #2337 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:47 am

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what i'm afraid of is that when i get mislynched twoface will be killed and then syndesis will skate along as "conftown" on a "confirmed" vig claim while doing absolutely no scumhunting whatsoever while nacho mislynches dunkerdoodles for an easy win
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Post Post #2338 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:53 am

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well we will lynch syndesis if you flip town, and then lynch nacho and then we win :)

anyways i'll hammer if you are ok with it.
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Post Post #2339 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:54 am

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i mean. the hammer is a choice you have to make for yourself. i can't take responsibility for your actions. :P
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Post Post #2340 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:54 am

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but i don't really have anything left to say right now, and obviously don't have to claim, so there shouldn't be any deterrents on that front at least
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Post Post #2341 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:55 am

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haha i don't want to hammer without people agreeing cause i don't want to be responsible for a town loss.
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Post Post #2342 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:56 am

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after like five days nobody would blame you at all tbh if you're worried about that :P
but my point stands; you should evaluate for yourself whether you want to hammer me at this juncture so you can be held responsible for it.
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Post Post #2343 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 5:59 am

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yeah that was my main concern. i don't want to hammer prematurely and then everyone's like "oh he hammered with 2 days left, obv scum" and then i get mislynched and town loses cause of that.
i was going to hammer anyways, just making sure we were ok with it. sorry if ur town.
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Post Post #2344 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:01 am

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In post 2338, Dunkerdoodles wrote:well we will lynch syndesis if you flip town
Why does mario being town mean Synd scum?
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Post Post #2345 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:03 am

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I was town. No reason to lie about it at this point (and it'd be a dick move to pretend to be town, make people put effort into twilight, and then flip as scum. i tend to avoid dick moves.)
I think it's Syndesis/Nacho. But there's no reason to get complacent here. Dunker could be scum. I think that's unlikely though. Right now IAI is my strongest townread, then TwoFace. Syndesis is 99% scum here, Nacho is at least 75%. I don't think you should automatic these last days, though. Be careful about who you lynch on D5. Just because I think it's Nacho, and it ?probably? is Nacho, doesn't mean it's actually Nacho right now.

Pedit: Actually Dany just massively swung up on my scumlist.
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Post Post #2346 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:03 am

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In post 2344, iDanyboy wrote:
In post 2338, Dunkerdoodles wrote:well we will lynch syndesis if you flip town
Why does mario being town mean Synd scum?
You want a reason to nokill Night 3?
Here you have it.
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Post Post #2347 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:05 am

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Actually Dany and Nacho are competing. There's even an (admittedly small) chance that they'll both be scum here and Syndesis is actually town. It'd be quite the PR overload then, even with MD as the only full PR. But still, I highly, highly, highly recommend lynching Syndesis tomorrow. Even without setup spec WIFOM etc. her play has been really scummy this game.
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Post Post #2348 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:06 am

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In post 2344, iDanyboy wrote:
In post 2338, Dunkerdoodles wrote:well we will lynch syndesis if you flip town
Why does mario being town mean Synd scum?
because it's unlikely for there to be 6 power roles imo. i did consider the possibility of both existing, but it just doesnt make sense to lynch someone outside of (mm4 syn) today for reasons mario explained before i think.
if mario does flip scum syn is confirmed in my eyes tho.

pedit: could dany/nacho be a scumteam and syn is acutally vig?]

pedit: beat me to it
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Post Post #2349 (ISO) » Wed Jul 05, 2017 6:10 am

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So Synd is scum eitherway?
Within the same post you say 6 PR is too many and then say it's possible.

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