TBD Mafia 2 [game over]

[Toby Determined]

Left Player	Right Player
Toby	N_M
Chick	Dreal
Vecna	Snarky
Dunk	llama
random	mario
dan	mastina
Srceen	Desperado
Chess	Eddie

ROUND 1 RESULTS

The entire right side kept all their boxes

The entire left side had a carrot in it!

The entire right side has been eliminated!

The entire left side moves to the next round!

ROUND 2 ROSTER

Left Player	Right Player
Toby	random
Vecna	Srceen
Dunk	Chick
ActionDan	Chess

ROUND 2 RESULTS

VECNA DID NOT HAVE A CARROT IN HIS BOX AND SRCEENPLAY KEPT IT, VECNA IS ELIMINATED

TOBY, DUNKERDOODLE, ACTIONDAN HAD A CARROT IN THEIR BOX, THEIR OPPONENTS KEPT THE BOX, CHESS, RANDOM, AND CHICK ARE ELIMINATED.


ROUND 3 ROSTER

Left Player	Right Player
Toby	Srceen
Dunk	Action

ROUND 3 STARTS

(expired on 2017-10-06 01:00:00)

[Alisae]

Toby wins gg

[Alisae]

Alright go home shows over gg

[Vecna]

omg the screenshot betrayal

[ActionDan]

Keeping mah box

[Vecna]

VOTE: Snarky VOTE: Snarky

mechanical extrapolation; scum/3rd party in

dreal

/ snarky

[Desperado]

why is dreal still alive

[Srceenplay]

why is dreal still alive

Because your shit missed.

[Desperado]

wut

[Srceenplay]

Nvm. Being a smart ass

[drealmerz7]

why would I be dead, desperado?

take me through my thoughts if I'm scum doing what I did

[Srceenplay]

I'm going with the mindset that you are not a typical scum player.

[Llamarble]

It's really not difficult to understand.
If you want to stand on "I claimed a guilty on town and didn't retract it and that should be sufficient for everyone not to vote me" even I would want to vote for you.
Having a lame defense doesn't make D7 scum though and we should lynch elsewhere (Snarky).

Also apparently the heal on Alisae actually did something?
And in the name of having some kind of chance of town winning, can we get votes from all the slots that aren't.

Also on deeper examination Mastina's Zoe Zelda stuff doesn't even consider the most basic strange things.
"Analysis" without getting interested in and pursuing the avenues that might actually get you something alignment-indicative. That is Theater.
The post kind of reminds me of some buddy-network-graph thing I did as scum in white flag mafia when we scraped out a scum win because I was obvscum but did not have any plausible partners thanks to my buddy's gambit-vote to lynch me and got ruled town and we won. Though I think even that was not as content-free as Mastina's posts.
"Under the questionable assumption that scum coordinated on questionnaires, they could have arranged themselves in pretty much any way. This will be useful down the road!"
The odor of setting up connection-mislynches for later in the game is strong.
To actually get anything out of the Zoe Zelda votes and choices, look at the posts and mindsets behind them.
Personally I selected Zelda because I like the Legend of Zelda and Zelda was my first dog's name.
I guessed Zelda because Zelda is more interesting sounding than Zoe (partly because of the games) and me choosing it makes it more likely it would have the most.
I can't really remember why I voted Zoe - I think I took a quick look at the wagons and figured why vote to make myself lynchable, but I certainly don't remember caring much.

Players who voted to make themselves lynchable:
Mario - initially voted zelda, then switched to Zoe "even though own faction" because wanted to make game proceed.
Dunkerdoodles (switched from an earlier zelda vote, but after Zoe was hammered apparently) on grounds of "we don't know who is which so it doesn't matter"
Mastina - voted for both pools. Presumably did not care or had come up with the idea of people doing analysis later and wanted a non-incriminating stance. This is easily the worst vote, especially with Mastin coming in later and being the one to say "I think scum put lots of thought into this" after not performing any such examination while the Zoe / Zelda voting was actually taking place and affecting our lynch choices for today.

Eddie voted Zoe after it was hammered too.
Snarky skipped that part of the day altogether.

It definitely looks like most players simply voted away from making themselves lynchable or to get through that part of the day more quickly.
There's some possibility of votes from Mario, Dunker, or Mastina trying to protect teammates from being lynch options, but I don't buy it based on the attention on them and the way the votes were placed.
There's definitely an "I will look town if I vote to lynch from my own collection" angle that works though.

[Srceenplay]

Also apparently the heal on Alisae actually did something?

That was random and unintentional.
What if we all vote to heal a dead town?

[Srceenplay]

HEAL: Vax

[drealmerz7]

I'm going with the mindset that you are not a typical scum player.

elaborate

you mean I'm superbad and stupid as scum?

[Srceenplay]

Unpredictable

[drealmerz7]

I'll concede to that, but I'm also a team player and even if I wanted to do that as scum for whatever half-brained idea I might be having, I wouldn't do it to my team, it's just bad play, imo. Maybe on a later Day not so much? but I think moreso only if you're trying to specifically weed out a cop in the late game, and still not something I really see myself doing in a game, knowing myself/how I play

But it still makes no sense for me in this game if I were scum to charm a good portion of the playerlist D1, not be up for consideration or in the hot seat AT ALL coming into D2, and decide to fake a guilty on D2 because I didn't get the lynch I pushed ALL DAY D1. Fucking ~20 ppl inthis game and scum is going to fake a guilty on D2? it's just nonsense, and think this will be the last I defend myself about it unless pushed or someone wants to go over some other aspect about it I haven't addressed

[drealmerz7]

VOTE: DunkerDoodles

VOTE: DunkerDoodles

it's mostly gut and tone reading, from the majority of his posts

[mastina]

I realize people have said stuff.
I feel like commenting on none of it.

[Alisae]

yeah that's overated man

[drealmerz7]

I realize people have said stuff.
I feel like commenting on none of it.

how about an expressive dance?

[ActionDan]

I want this carrot thing to resolve

[Srceenplay]

I want this carrot thing to resolve

Did you pass or stay?

[ActionDan]

Stay. I bolded it in thread