Open 570: Making Friends and Enemies (Mafia Wins!)

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2350 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:03 pm

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In post 2349, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I die toNight so it really doesn't matter about keeping my reads to try and stay alive now.

Scum team is Josh, GM and Huntress.

davesaz · Post Post #2351 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:03 pm

That's interesting, BBT's claim came before my day start PM, if I can believe the timestamps.
Maybe just a coincidence, but on the surface it looks like thread sitting. If that's even a concept here.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2352 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:04 pm

Yeah it did.

I was online and saw mod online.

Why is it interesting?

Huntress · Post Post #2353 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:05 pm

In post 2340, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:The only person who I think can get away with CC me is Huntress.

Nope. No counterclaim from me.

Your mason claim feels genuine, and having had a quick look at your interactions with Shinobi I can't see anything there to make me doubt it.

Josh is looking scummiest at the moment but I'm going to think about it overnight before doing anything.

@ Josh: Why Aegor?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2354 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:05 pm

Interesting.

I guess I'm not getting CC'ed.

Josh_B · Post Post #2355 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:14 pm

In post 2346, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I got you Josh.

Don't worry.

Is Wisdom's slot not so town anymore?

I didn't think he was town from the beginning. I thought I caught Scum Metal Sonic in the beginning.
It was you, wasn't it, that said that Wisdom's vote was opportunistic and came as the wagon started growing?

With you being a silly mason why did you push peabody's lynch instead of going after aegor?
Why did you make the Uct lynch so easy?

Do you really think Huntress is scum? If you had to go 50/50 on Dave/nero who would you pick?

Josh_B · Post Post #2356 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:14 pm

In post 2346, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:I got you Josh.

Don't worry.

Is Wisdom's slot not so town anymore?

I didn't think he was town from the beginning. I thought I caught Scum Metal Sonic in the beginning.
It was you, wasn't it, that said that Wisdom's vote was opportunistic and came as the wagon started growing?

With you being a silly mason why did you push peabody's lynch instead of going after aegor?
Why did you make the Uct lynch so easy?

Do you really think Huntress is scum? If you had to go 50/50 on Dave/nero who would you pick?

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2357 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:15 pm

Why are you questioning me as if it matters? I'm conf town.

You and GM are for sure scum.

Huntress I'm the least sure on.

Josh_B · Post Post #2358 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:19 pm

BBT. I was right to say that you and Shinobi were aligned. You manufactured the twin pushes from the previous game, and it was just as scummy as it was before.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2359 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:20 pm

It's scummy...but I've been town both times it's happened.

You're making so much sense right now.

goodmorning · Post Post #2360 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:26 pm

Aegor is Town.

Josh_B · Post Post #2361 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:34 pm

Pretty sure he's not. Unless GM is actually scum. Which I don't believe.

Every push out of that slot has been on town.
I'll also take Nero Cain and Huntress for close seconds.

Josh_B · Post Post #2362 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:35 pm

In post 2359, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:It's scummy...but I've been
an idiot
both times it's happened.

You're making so much sense right now.

Fixed for truth.

Josh_B · Post Post #2363 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 1:51 pm

I'm sorry. I shouldn't call people idiots.

But seriously BBT. I think you care more about lynching people than figuring out the game.

Josh_B · Post Post #2364 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 2:07 pm

I'm going to be V/La for the next three days.

I'll be back on Monday- maybe Sunday night.

Nero Cain · Post Post #2365 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 3:04 pm

In post 2361, Josh_B wrote:I'll also take Nero Cain and Huntress for close seconds

WTF? I'm scum. bullshit. I don't know what a scum Josh looks like, is this it?

Josh_B · Post Post #2366 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 4:14 pm

No, but lynch me anyways if you like.

Aegor · Post Post #2367 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 7:27 pm

posting tomorrow

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2368 (ISO) » Thu Nov 06, 2014 10:16 pm

Alright, time for some VCA. This is only from the first two Days, I haven't got time for any more yet.

In post 635, beastcharizard wrote:
Vote Count

Goodmorning:
ucitron00
,
Malakittens
,
BlueBloodedToffeep
, Metal Sonic, hephaestus,
nopointinactingup

(L-1)

davesaz: Huntress
hephaestus:
Peabody
, Josh_B
Metal Sonic: Goodmorning

nopointinactingup
:
Scripten

Not voting: davesaz, shinobi
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-04 20:45:00)

To me, this looks like an all town wagon on GM. GM is insistent, and everyone else seems to agree, that the MS/Wisdom/Aegor slot is town. Therefore, if Nero is town (which I believe he is) then it's an all town wagon on a scum GM.

In post 1015, beastcharizard wrote:
Hammer!!!!

Nopointinacting up has been lynched!!!

Vote Count

Goodmorning: hephaestus,
nopointinactingup
,
shinobi
,
BlueBloodedToffee

Metal Sonic: Goodmorning, Josh_B

nopointinactingup
:
Scripten
, Metal Sonic, Huntress,
Malakittens
, davesaz,
Peabody
,
ucitron00

Not voting:
With 13 alive it takes 7 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-04 20:45:00)

OK, remember Josh's weird vote where he left the NPAU wagon and joined the MS vanity wagon that had no chance of going anywhere that late in the Day? Well, he couldn't join the GM wagon because, and this is only relevant with a flip of course, he is scum with GM. With scum Huntress already on the wagon, he wanted to get off.

Again, assuming Aegor is town and Dave is town (Dave is for sure town because of Zeb's last post. Scum don't post their reads when replacing out, that was his last effort to help town) then this means the scum on the NPAU wagon is Huntress.

In post 0, beastcharizard wrote:

FINAL VOTECOUNT

Vote Count

Peabody
(6):
BlueBloodedToffee
,
Malakittens
,
Shinobi
, Huntress, davesaz,
ucitron00

BlueBloodedToffee
(4): goodmorning,
Peabody
, Josh_B, Nero Cain

Not voting(1): Aegor,
With 11 alive it takes 6 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-10-27 20:00:00)

Final wagon from D2. Huntress or Dave is scum on the Pea wagon. I have already explained why I think Dave is town. Points to Huntress being scum again.

I'll do more VCA when I get some more time.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2369 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 4:22 am

Not much more VCA to be done. Just the final VC from D3.

In post 2323, beastcharizard wrote:
Vote Count

ucitron00
(5): Huntress,
BluebloodedToffee
, Josh_B, davesaz,
ucitron00

Shinobi(1): Nero Cain
BluebloodedToffee(1): goodmorning

Not Voting(2): Shinobi, Aegor

With 9 alive it takes 5 to lynch.

Deadline: (expired on 2014-11-16 20:00:00)

HAMMER!!!!!

Dave is town for reasons stated. Scum on the wagon is Huntress and Josh.

I want to lynch either of Josh, GM or Huntress today.

goodmorning · Post Post #2370 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:02 am

1. VCA doesn't work like you're trying to make it work.
2. You're making a LOT of assumptions there.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2371 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:05 am

More theory talk. Sigh.

Hey GM, now that you know I'm town after spending two Days tunneling me, where are your reads at?

goodmorning · Post Post #2372 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:18 am

Aegor could still CC you.

BlueBloodedToffee · Post Post #2373 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:20 am

He won't.

He's town.

So, let's just pretend we already know that Aegor is not CC me.

Where are your reads at?

Huntress · Post Post #2374 (ISO) » Fri Nov 07, 2014 5:46 am

VCA is like statistics. It can be used to prove anything you want it to, as you are demonstrating. There is a lot of confbias in there.

In post 2368, BlueBloodedToffee wrote:Dave is for sure town because of Zeb's last post. Scum don't post their reads when replacing out, that was his last effort to help town

Or his last effort to help his scumbuddies? Normally someone replacing out just goes, but he seemed anxious not to leave his team in the lurch, whoever they were. I don't think you can base an alignment call on that.

I'm still ok with lynching Josh today. Next would probably be Dave. Josh gave me a rather cryptic answer about him when I asked him about his reads 833.