Scummies 2007 Nominations Closed!

[petroleumjelly]

Because we don't want to give 7 awards for one game, maybe?

[Brutal Assassin]

^^^????

I don't see hardly any awards where a newbie game could win. lol

[ChannelDelibird]

Best Newbie Game?

Curious why this wasn't in there before.

Because it's not really an award for a specific player, which makes it pretty infeasible to give out.

[mole]

If you're after an award for Newbie games, why not re-institute the

Most Inexperience-Challenged

Scummy for the player who is most helpful/insightful in that forum?

[Brutal Assassin]

Best Newbie Game?

Curious why this wasn't in there before.

Because it's not really an award for a specific player, which makes it pretty infeasible to give out.

Oh, oops Didn't think of that. Regardless, Newbie 280 owned.

[Mr. Flay]

Yeah, but the Best Performance (Town) could go to upwards of 15 players... not sure how they've handled that in the past, as there used to be some confusion on if it was for a single player or a faction.

[spectrumvoid]

I'd really love to nominate newbie 280 for most enjoyable newbie.

[Fritzler]

Yeah, but the Best Performance (Town) could go to upwards of 15 players... not sure how they've handled that in the past, as there used to be some confusion on if it was for a single player or a faction.

I believe the won the award, but didn't get the title things.

[spectrumvoid]

I think we should start discussing what the definitions of the awards are. I think he was right to point out that some awards sound ambiguous.

[AniX]

I think we should start discussing what the definitions of the awards are. I think

he

was right to point out that some awards sound ambiguous.

She is totally talking about the 11th Hour.

But yeah, in all seriousness, I don't see how we can nominate people for awards when the administration is not giving us definitions (abeit, my call for definitions was written in a trademark ridicious style, so I can see where the adminstration might miss my point)

[Fuldu]

AniX, how would you define "Best Actor" and do you think all members of AMPAS would agree with that definition? The very premise of these awards is that people nominate who they think best suits their notion of what the award should be, and then a panel of judges applies their own criteria and judgment (thus the term 'judges') for a final decision. Nominate who you think deserves it and provide your rationale for those nominations. Valid and reasonable rationales will get seconded and beyond that the judges will sort it out.

[pablito]

I think that newbie 280, if it's nominated for anything, should be nominated for Best Town Performance - for the five townies and their replacements. It was the town and its diligence that made newbie 280 enjoyable. Also scum were good, but they didn't win, so therefore the only category that fits is best town performance.

Scummies should be fun and help others become aware of some great moves and great games. I doubt it's intended to be the definitive source of everything in MS.

[AniX]

AniX, how would you define "Best Actor" and do you think all members of AMPAS would agree with that definition? The very premise of these awards is that people nominate who they think best suits their notion of what the award should be, and then a panel of judges applies their own criteria and judgment (thus the term 'judges') for a final decision. Nominate who you think deserves it and provide your rationale for those nominations. Valid and reasonable rationales will get seconded and beyond that the judges will sort it out.

I would define best actor as someone who acts. But could I nominate a politician for best actor. In my view they do more acting than anyone else.

And what of people who are phony. Can I elect my senior class of high school, since certainly they are putting on an act and not being who they really are.

Or perhaps I'lll nominate the Pope, since its my view he is putting on a magical puppet show.

Would you view these as valid nominations for actor?

[Fuldu]

Would you view these as valid nominations for actor?

No, but there are rules requiring the nominee to have appeared in a film during the year in question, just as here there are rules requiring the nominee/nominated material to have occurred in a game which ended in 2006.

But, again, the point of a nomination process is that it allows people to make a case for why their interpretation of the point of the category is the one that should be considered in awarding the prize.

For example,

Letters from Iwo Jima

, directed by Clint Eastwood, won a Golden Globe for Best Foreign Language Film. Generally, this category is used to recognize high quality films that come from outside Hollywood. But

Letters from Iwo Jima

does, technically, fit the criteria for the category. Someone over at Hollywood Foreign Press must have felt that the quality of the movie justified this treatment, and made the argument for it. A more open and freeform nominations process makes that possible.

If we were simply going to define a rigid definition by which the winner in each category could be identified, we wouldn't need this thread at all. The judges would simply go through the games, tally the scores, and see who came out on top. Nominations allow everyone to bring their own interpretation to the awards process.

You are, of course, welcome to continue in your obstinate opposition to a concept that I think, frankly, is pretty easy to see the value of. God knows no one has been able to modify your behavior in any other contexts. But please take it to another thread. This thread is for nominations and so, as Phoebus pointed out, meta-nomination dialogue is spam here. Spam that I've regretfully contributed to simply because I foolishly thought I could quickly and easily make matters clear to you.

[AniX]

Would you view these as valid nominations for actor?

No, but there are rules requiring the nominee to have appeared in a film during the year in question, just as here there are rules requiring the nominee/nominated material to have occurred in a game which ended in 2006.

But, again, the point of a nomination process is that it allows people to make a case for why their interpretation of the point of the category is the one that should be considered in awarding the prize.

For example,

Letters from Iwo Jima

, directed by Clint Eastwood, won a Golden Globe for Best Foreign Language Film. Generally, this category is used to recognize high quality films that come from outside Hollywood. But

Letters from Iwo Jima

does, technically, fit the criteria for the category. Someone over at Hollywood Foreign Press must have felt that the quality of the movie justified this treatment, and made the argument for it. A more open and freeform nominations process makes that possible.

If we were simply going to define a rigid definition by which the winner in each category could be identified, we wouldn't need this thread at all. The judges would simply go through the games, tally the scores, and see who came out on top. Nominations allow everyone to bring their own interpretation to the awards process.

You are, of course, welcome to continue in your obstinate opposition to a concept that I think, frankly, is pretty easy to see the value of. God knows no one has been able to modify your behavior in any other contexts. But please take it to another thread. This thread is for nominations and so, as Phoebus pointed out, meta-nomination dialogue is spam here. Spam that I've regretfully contributed to simply because I foolishly thought I could quickly and easily make matters clear to you.

Exactly, exactly, exactly. That is what I'm asking for. We haven't, at least to my knowledge, got the basic requirements as to what rules we must follow when making nominations for most prolific (besides, as you pointed out, basic time requirements). Thats all I want. Is that so wrong? Do we really need to break this down into "me vs. you" "me vs. Phoebus" "Spam vs. Nominations" etc. etc. etc? Can't we all just get along, and perhaps get some basic rules to follow in the nomination process?

[stikey]

Group: The Whole Town
Award: The Oscar for Best Performance - Pro Town
Game: Mini 363 -- Mostly Mute Mime Mafia
Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3827

I just finished modding this game. It lasted five days, during which time the town lynched a neutral player, the mafia godfather, a mafia henchman, the other mafia henchman, and the serial killer.

[Twito]

Group: The Whole Town
Award: The Oscar for Best Performance - Pro Town
Game: Mini 342-Mlakerville
Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3610

Town started by lynching SK, had successful protection N1 and then kept lynching all the mafia day by day.

[Fircoal]

How about an award for the Best Bandwagon?

[Primate]

Group: The Whole Town
Award: The Oscar for Best Performance - Pro Town
Game: Mini 342-Mlakerville
Link: http://www.mafiascum.net/forum/viewtopic.php?t=3610

Town started by lynching SK, had successful protection N1 and then kept lynching all the mafia day by day.

Doesn't count. We won on christmas last year.

Not that the town winning a game with a setup like

Mafia Goon
Mafia Goon
Mafia Thief
Mafia Godfather
Serial Killer
Doc
50% Doc
Cop
FBI Agent
Vanilla
Vanilla
Vanilla

isn't awesome. 'specially when the cop dies n0.

[Battle Mage]

Nominate: Battle Mage, Twito, Spectrumvoid
Award: Prolific Player

Game: N/A

Hate to nominate myself, but if ur looking for a Mafia addict, look no further than these guys

[Fritzler]

Nominate: Battle Mage, Twito, Spectrumvoid
Award: Prolific Player

Game: N/A

Hate to nominate myself, but if ur looking for a Mafia addict, look no further than these guys

A) It's february, that award more than other will depend on staying power of certain fellows
B) nominate yourself: classy, i'd never do that, especially not for this award
C) you do realize that there are many more addicts you didn't recognize?
D) hippies

[Twito]

IRT Primate:
Umm.. yeah right. Bah. Should be the best one of last year as we totally owned.

D) hippies

Do you have something againts hippies?

[Battle Mage]

they are the addicts imo. If you can think of others, you are welcome to nominate them yourself.

Nominate: Battle Mage, Twito, Spectrumvoid
Award: Prolific Player

Game: N/A

Hate to nominate myself, but if ur looking for a Mafia addict, look no further than these guys

A) It's february, that award more than other will depend on staying power of certain fellows
B) nominate yourself: classy, i'd never do that, especially not for this award
C) you do realize that there are many more addicts you didn't recognize?
D) hippies

[spectrumvoid]

BM: For addict award, I'm pretty sure you have to wait a while and see.

For exmaple: Myself, I'm anticipating a drop in activtiy towards the second half because I'm starting a difficult semester then. I will also be away end of this year for a month or so. So I can't win the award.

[Zindaras]

I agree with AniX on this one. We need to make sure the basic requirements are clear.

I'd like to second the nomination for Mostly Mute Mime. Maybe it's a bit selfish, but none of those lynches was on the back of any cop investigations or anything, if I'm remembering correctly.