Mini Normal 1897: Chocolate Mafia - Game Over

[Boonskiies]

Tb is also a scum read

why am I not a scum read?

[Boonskiies]

Also there isn't a mafia watcher unless Eager is scum, and then that's a super ballsy claim.

why wouldn't there be a mafia watcher?

[eagerSnake]

Tb is also a scum read

why am I not a scum read?

Because youre not yet

[Something_Smart]

Mafia watcher and town backup watcher is super swingy depending on which of them dies first.

So scum watcher exists only if the backup watcher is also scum (and I believe eager's claim).

Also eager can you answer my question

[Boonskiies]

man, this game is janky.

I love it.

Like I said, I'm positive this is an investigation heavy setup. At this point, I'm pretty sure there are investigation roles on both sides. I was in a game that had scum and town gunsmiths alongside backup gunsmiths for both sides.

[eagerSnake]

P much all my thoughts are on the table already as far as why I don't believe the claim ss

[Boonskiies]

Unvote

I need to look some stuff up and think.

[Boonskiies]

P much all my thoughts are on the table already as far as why I don't believe the claim ss

I don't understand why you were town reading Transcend because of it. I have reason to believe the miller claim.

[aronagrundy]

has anyone been in a game with a miller without a cop? like just to fuck with the setup spec?

i agree that cop, watcher AND backup watcher is pretty ridiculous

[aronagrundy]

Mafia watcher and town backup watcher is super swingy depending on which of them dies first.

So scum watcher exists only if the backup watcher is also scum (and I believe eager's claim).

Also eager can you answer my question

Ohhh ok the backups can cross alignments

[ThinkBig]

Like I said, I'm positive this is an investigation heavy setup. At this point, I'm pretty sure there are investigation roles on both sides. I was in a game that had scum and town gunsmiths alongside backup gunsmiths for both sides.

Yeah. BlackVoid and I share the same home site. Our home site both uses tons of power roles and is often swingy with the set up.

With that said, a miller makes sense in a power rich environment. That's how it looks so far and that's why I believe the claim.

[Transcend]

VOTE: ss

[ThinkBig]

Transcend, you need to get in here and start fucking game solving and contributing. You have been doing nothing except for trolling, OMGUSing, and naked votes. We are well past that point. Get a grip or get out.

[Boonskiies]

Town

investigate role
back up watcher
miller
possibly one or two other pr depending on mafia power
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Scum

investigative role (gonna assume watcher)
some role to cause WIFOM within all that jazz.
goon or other pr depending on how many PR town has.



Yeah, this is a good base for me to think about...

VOTE: Transcend

I'm back here. If he claims Watcher I'm pretty confident in it being scum aligned.

[ThinkBig]

Sure

But if town knows what's good they should unvote

I'll give full thoughts after work

6+ hours ago.

[ThinkBig]

I'm back here. If he claims Watcher I'm pretty confident in it being scum aligned.

I agree with this.

[Boonskiies]

Mafia watcher and town backup watcher is super swingy depending on which of them dies first.

So scum watcher exists only if the backup watcher is also scum (and I believe eager's claim).

Also eager can you answer my question

I don't agree with this. They can be separate alignments.

[Something_Smart]

P much all my thoughts are on the table already as far as why I don't believe the claim ss

Miller doesn't imply full cop, and backup watcher doesn't imply full watcher. (Not to mention that given what we've seen so far I could see BV putting in a miller without a cop)

So I don't see why the two couldn't coexist. Especially since Transcend is probably full of crap.

has anyone been in a game with a miller without a cop? like just to fuck with the setup spec?

i agree that cop, watcher AND backup watcher is pretty ridiculous

yes I have, it was a theme game but it was mostly normal in the mechanics.

also, if a scum watcher flips we lynch eager because I still can't see scum watcher and town backup watcher being approved for balance.

[eagerSnake]

P much all my thoughts are on the table already as far as why I don't believe the claim ss

I don't understand why you were town reading Transcend because of it. I have reason to believe the miller claim.

Never said I town read transcend

[aronagrundy]

If there's a scum watcher, why would scum!eager claim backup watcher?

[Transcend]

I still have 3 hours of work

I'm just voting conf scum

Jeez

[aronagrundy]

If there's a cop, I agree with the line of reasoning that transcend is the most likely one to be lying.

Note: this does not mean to claim cop

[Something_Smart]

If there's a scum watcher, why would scum!eager claim backup watcher?

If he actually is one

[Transcend]

My role is not watcher, i just said that I'm confirmable. Watcher is NOT confirmable

[Something_Smart]

And he almost definitely is a backup watcher, of one alignment or the other