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[Ausuka]

Votecount 4.3

With 8 players alive, it takes 5 votes to eliminate. Day 4 ends in (expired on 2024-01-16 21:32:18).

Votecount

Pavowski (2)

- DragonEater70, Flavor Leaf

DragonEater70 (2)

- Gamma Emerald, cw357

geraintm (1)

- Hu Tao

Not Voting (3)

- geraintm, Pavowski, Purplemango

Flavour

[Pavowski]

I refuse to be limmed today because that means you mislim Hu Tao tomorrow and game over.

If you want to lim me, let's lim Pav and I'll selfvote if he flips town.

You aren't self-voting when I flip town, don't pretend like you are. And your assumption that we then autoflip Hu Tao as town tomorrow is just that, an assumption. If Flavor isn't there to drive it, what makes you think it'll be automatic? And how are you so goddamn sure Hu Tao flips green? At this point I could see a red flip from anybody in the lobby and it would barely surprise me.

"I refuse to be limmed" is so silly. Even if town, you're so frustrated at catching votes it feels like scum fighting for your absolute life.

You get how mechanically we have to flip you eventually, right? Scum never NKs you now. Unless we somehow flip a scum RB today. And guess what? It ain't happening if you flip me. I don't think it ever happens period at this point.

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: DragonEater

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Pav

i have no clue.

[Flavor Leaf]

dragoneater JKing me just automatically does make sure i get a kill or survive to the next day.

a sick bargaining chip

[Flavor Leaf]

VOTE: Dragon

[Pavowski]

I'll grant Dragon sounds towny on this case. Particularly the fact he was gobsmacked Flavor switched to me in the midst of all that. (And he voiced it in the thread.)

I still think scum is way underpowered if Dragon is town, but screw mechanics for now. Who do you want me to vote, Dragon? Who's my partner?

And by the way, if I want to push through an easy mislim on you, why the balls haven't I voted you yet?

[Flavor Leaf]

i like Pav vibes better in real time than i like Dragon's.

If Dragon is town, they're too frantic here.

Pav feels a lot more calm and if i die i die, and they have since the beginning of the game.

on top of that, hu tao/dragon has relied on blind faith to convince others, and while that's all good and dandy, and i agree with that, it's still not okay for them to not try and reason with it. if they can see them as town so easily, it should be easy to give some more reasons, and i just dont think im willing to bet the game on both of them being town.

so I will go Dragon priority, or make the jump of Hu Tao fade, and Dragon jails me.

[Flavor Leaf]

and this has me line up with Gamma and CW too, which shows group thought.

Pav not making the kill shot vote on Dragon feels big, and theyve been willing to back off and wait all game.

Pav's unvote on Kyouko was far better than Hu Tao and Dragon's as well.

[Pavowski]

ngl I’m tired and just want this game to end
Can people post their top 2 preferred votes? Mine are Dragon and Hu Tao

Please explain why because earlier you were scumreading Pav, and both me and HT are town.

Flavor made good points on you, and I dislike Hu Tao’s approach this game day

No, Flavor made tunneled points on me, and Hu Tao is simply not sheeping Flavor.

How about we vote Pav who unlike me has both a huge partner equity with HPE and has been sheeping and pocketing Flavor a lot more than me (albeit in a more subtleway because he didn't want to be found out, unlike me who just did it in a jokey way D1) and then when he flips scum you townclear me and Hu Tao?

Honestly if you flip scum your townlock on Hu Tao makes me never want to vote there.

[Flavor Leaf]

Hu Tao and Gamma is very possible.

Especially with the way Hu Tao sat on Joyboy all game.

[Pavowski]

and this has me line up with Gamma and CW too, which shows group thought.

Pav not making the kill shot vote on Dragon feels big, and theyve been willing to back off and wait all game.

Pav's unvote on Kyouko was far better than Hu Tao and Dragon's as well.

I don't think I had the opportunity on Dragon btw. At most he's had 3 today if I'm following correctly. But I don't want any lim yet. Given recent town pings from Dragon I can't shake the paranoia that scum could just be hanging back watching the fireworks here.

I still think mechanics are a problem for Dragon, but there is still 1 more scum to catch even if he's red.

[Gamma Emerald]

Hu Tao and Gamma is very possible.

Especially with the way Hu Tao sat on Joyboy all game.

that would be funny, it would basically be the team from love child but with my slot in the place of ircher

[Hu Tao]

If the day ends on me with a wagon that includes Flavor/cw/gera/Gamma/Pav (not necessarily in that order), please flip in this order:

Pav > Gamma > cw

Right now I'm leaning gamma scummiest

[Hu Tao]

maybe, I just feel like you're specifically trying to undermine flavor and I think it could be agenda driven

What???

[Flavor Leaf]

maybe, I just feel like you're specifically trying to undermine flavor and I think it could be agenda driven

What???

yeah not a good look. gamma, if scum, was still right about this

[Gamma Emerald]

maybe, I just feel like you're specifically trying to undermine flavor and I think it could be agenda driven

What???

yeah not a good look. gamma, if scum, was still right about this

:I

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Pavowski

Jail me tonight.

I'd prefer gamma or Gera tbh

[Hu Tao]

It’s not purely faith in your read, to be fair.

Jail me 100% of the time tonight.

I make it through tomorrow, or they have to block you to kill me and let’s my kill go through.

I think this is a good compromise

[Hu Tao]

VOTE: Pav

i have no clue.

Can we go gamma instead

[DragonEater70]

Why though, HT?

[DragonEater70]

VOTE: DragonEater

VOTE: Pav

i have no clue.

VOTE: Dragon

This is so funny

[DragonEater70]

Okay Flavor, I know this might sound opportunistic as shit, but it's actually not. I'm genuinely thrown off by HT's insistence not to vote either me or Pav this day phase.

So, now's your time to explain to me why she's scum in the world where I am town and Pav is scum.

[Gamma Emerald]

UNVOTE:

[DragonEater70]

I refuse to be limmed today because that means you mislim Hu Tao tomorrow and game over.

If you want to lim me, let's lim Pav and I'll selfvote if he flips town.

You aren't self-voting when I flip town, don't pretend like you are. And your assumption that we then autoflip Hu Tao as town tomorrow is just that, an assumption.

If Flavor isn't there to drive it, what makes you think it'll be automatic?

And how are you so goddamn sure Hu Tao flips green? At this point I could see a red flip from anybody in the lobby and it would barely surprise me.

"I refuse to be limmed" is so silly. Even if town, you're so frustrated at catching votes it feels like scum fighting for your absolute life.

You get how mechanically we have to flip you eventually, right?

Scum never NKs you now. Unless we somehow flip a scum RB today.

And guess what? It ain't happening if you flip me.

I don't think it ever happens period at this point.

See the problem with this post is this is like the third time this game you are trying to convince me I am scum/lying/whatever.

You are probably right that my survival instinct will tell me not to self vote if it comes to that,

but I am just very convinced you are scum and I am willing to bet the game on that, that's what I am trying to convey. So even if I don't self vote, I will have no leverage to lim anyone else if you flip town. And I am fine with that, because I am sure you are scum.

It's nice to call it an assumption, but I have played enough games of mafia to know that when someone who's been hard defending a certain lhf slot dies, it becomes incredibly easy to push that slot.

Even if you decide to not autolim Hu Tao, in a world where Flavor and I die and there's 2 scum left, I feel people aee too divided to ever find scum. Like unless the scum team is exactly cw/Gamma (which I don't think it is, since as I said I think you are scum), it's just super easy for scum to miseliminate HT. It's also probably easy to miselim Purple.

It's called having reads. Might be a new concept for you, mr. "I change who I think is scum whenever it's convenient", but I have played enough games with Hu Tao and I have looked at what she's done this game, and I just think she's town. Though as I said in my last post, willing to hear why Flavor thinks she's scum.

That "we always have to flip you, scum never NKs you" is pure bullshit

. If I don't get night killed then I can either let Flavor live, help him vig, or generate clears. There's absolutely no fucking way scum let me live unless they are happy with Flavor being alive and pushing a mislim on me, which, well... doesn't really support your argument. There is NO reason I need to be flipped after you flip scum.

What is the point of this line except making me look bad and discrediting me? Like, sure, it looks frustrated. It is frustrated. So what?

Okay, who's your partner?