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Post Post #2700 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:14 pm

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In post 2693, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2685, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 2663, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I mean, i’d vote Billy over me.
But if he flips town
i’m probably going to need a good and long trip to the mental hospital for rehabilitation.
Such a Freudian slip.. :lol:
?? how is this is a slip am I just dumb
Well, tbf, at this point I was more or less joking.
But the way I read that post, Norweg is saying that
"he would vote Billy over himself"
-> with the tone of
"as the last option other than me"
-> Norweg thinks Billy is town.
He then says, and notice here, starts with a
BUT
"if he flips town i’m probably going to need a good and long trip to the mental hospital for rehabilitation"
.
Meaning that those two sentences are connected, and together they make no sense.
I might've let it pass, but the their mutual reaction to that mistake just seems fake to me.
To me it's obvious that Norweg is only talking about Billy in that post.

Now, I normally hate it when people jump up every time there's even a sliver of a chance someone made a "slip".
Scumslip, townslip, whatever.
But this here seems more like the kind of slip that actually happens for scum - especially if they are both scum.
Norweg is tunneling very hard on the point that "Billy is so obv.town to me", but while writing this post their actual knowledge of Billys alignment pushes through for a moment, and they write "town" instead of "scum".
Because they are both scum, but they are trying very hard to force the narrative of town!Billy.
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Post Post #2701 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:16 pm

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Now, I only think this means something if they are both scum - and more importantly - Norweg is scum.
With town!Norweg this means nothing, and my initial joke of a Freudian slip is more accurate.
But I really dislike the way they momentarily voted for each other and then just swept it all under the rug.
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Post Post #2702 (ISO) » Fri Sep 04, 2020 9:17 pm

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In post 2696, lilith2013 wrote:At this point I don’t care whether norweej or billy is the elimination for today. does anyone have a strong preference?
If it's one or the other, I'd actually go for Norweg right now.
I still "owe" Billy that reread on them that I promised, and tbh, I'm sort of done doing ISO-dives or catchups for this gameday. :lol:
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Post Post #2703 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:47 am

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In post 2700, UnaBombaH wrote:To me it's obvious that Norweg is only talking about Billy in that post.
Except, the following posts make it clear that he meant Nep and misgendered her?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2704 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:47 am

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VOTE: NorweiganBoyEE

I agree with #2700, but don't think Billy also has to be scum for it to be a slip. EE could just be lazy when fabricating his thought process as scum.
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Post Post #2705 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:48 am

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In post 2703, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2700, UnaBombaH wrote:To me it's obvious that Norweg is only talking about Billy in that post.
Except, the following posts make it clear that he meant Nep and misgendered her?
Oh, really?
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Post Post #2706 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:50 am

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No, I think is solely about Billy.
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Post Post #2707 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:51 am

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In post 2675, NorwegianboyEE wrote:You seriously didn’t realize that from reading my posts on this very page that i was voting Nepenthes?
It's always the same. When you fire that first shot, no matter how right you feel, you have no idea who's going to die. You don't know whose children are going to scream and burn. How many hearts will be broken. How many lives shattered. How much blood will spill, until everybody does what they're always going to have to do from the very beginning... SIT DOWN AND TALK!
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Post Post #2708 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:52 am

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Was that referring to #2663, EE?

I find it weird to use a pronoun which is referring to a name other than the one you just used earlier in that post.
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Post Post #2709 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:54 am

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Billy feels a lot like town.
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Post Post #2710 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 12:55 am

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In post 2678, Billy Pilgrim wrote:UNVOTE:

Yeah, back to me being the elim today. And I already explained why it helps.
His acceptance of being exiled like this + the reasoning he gave in earlier posts scream town. I've seen behaviour like this from town!Billy before, although that was long, long ago.
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Post Post #2711 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:00 am

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In post 2412, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2411, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:i didnt think the replacement could be worse

but it is

lol
Why? He seems fine to me.
In post 2423, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Waterdispenser isn’t scum.
Next lynch candidate plz.
In post 2440, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I don’t think Sirius is the kind of player that can fake anything.
He was awkard and stilted in his scum!games and here he behaved a lot differently.
So Sirius is town.
It makes sense.
In post 2441, NorwegianboyEE wrote:Foureyes linking his scumgame and genuinely believing he is right is townie tho.
He should never be lynched. But Nep is still questionable to me.
This felt like pocketing to me.

Btw, is the last quote supposed to be talking about FourEyes or I?
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Post Post #2712 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:16 am

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V/LA till Monday
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Post Post #2713 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:22 am

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2663 seems like he’s referring to billy when he says “if this flips town”
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Post Post #2714 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:25 am

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In post 2701, UnaBombaH wrote:With town!Norweg this means nothing, and my initial joke of a Freudian slip is more accurate.
It means nothing and you’re wasting time.
Next topic.
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Post Post #2715 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:28 am

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@Mod VLA until Monday as well.


I'm a bit taken aback by how every wagon outside of the Nep one suddenly stalls around E-3. I think that is more town indicative of Nep than anything else, though.
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Post Post #2716 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:45 am

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In post 2703, Something_Smart wrote:
In post 2700, UnaBombaH wrote:To me it's obvious that Norweg is only talking about Billy in that post.
Except, the following posts make it clear that he meant Nep and misgendered her?
That's the explanation he used, yes.
But that one post in itself makes no sense if Norweg is talking first about Billy and then suddenly about Nep.
In post 2662, NorwegianboyEE wrote:
In post 2514, osuka wrote:Billy Pilgrim (3) - Waterdispensor, NorwegianboyEE, Zombie Apocalypse
Mod plz, i just changed my vote to Nepenthes.
Read the post with this for context. I think it's painfully obvious that Norweg is addressing the misunderstanding that Norweg would voting for Billy.
He then starts explicitly talking about Billy, and the "but" in the beginning of the second sentence pairs the two.

I do not see how 2663 could've been about Nep.
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Post Post #2717 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 1:49 am

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Yes i’m talking about Billy. Because i’m fucking explaining that if Billy is town then there are deepwolves in this game. But i already knew that.
Why are you blowing this minor issue way out of proportion Una?
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Post Post #2718 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:15 am

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So...wait what?
You don't think Billy is scum, right?

Crazy-porridge again.
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Post Post #2719 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:35 am

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In post 2700, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 2693, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2685, UnaBombaH wrote:
In post 2663, NorwegianboyEE wrote:I mean, i’d vote Billy over me.
But if he flips town
i’m probably going to need a good and long trip to the mental hospital for rehabilitation.
Such a Freudian slip.. :lol:
?? how is this is a slip am I just dumb
Well, tbf, at this point I was more or less joking.
But the way I read that post, Norweg is saying that
"he would vote Billy over himself"
-> with the tone of
"as the last option other than me"
-> Norweg thinks Billy is town.
He then says, and notice here, starts with a
BUT
"if he flips town i’m probably going to need a good and long trip to the mental hospital for rehabilitation"
.
Meaning that those two sentences are connected, and together they make no sense.
I might've let it pass, but the their mutual reaction to that mistake just seems fake to me.
To me it's obvious that Norweg is only talking about Billy in that post.

Now, I normally hate it when people jump up every time there's even a sliver of a chance someone made a "slip".
Scumslip, townslip, whatever.
But this here seems more like the kind of slip that actually happens for scum - especially if they are both scum.
Norweg is tunneling very hard on the point that "Billy is so obv.town to me", but while writing this post their actual knowledge of Billys alignment pushes through for a moment, and they write "town" instead of "scum".
Because they are both scum, but they are trying very hard to force the narrative of town!Billy.
See i understand how literally everyone else would see it that way, but this interpretation only works if we're scum together, and I'm not scum, so if hes making that comment about me its just a stone cold lie, which is why i may be more apt to believe that he was talking about Nep.

Also, I read the "but" from his post as a sort of change. So he was voting Nep, then said he would vote me over himself but that he'd be in a mental institution if "he flipped town." This reasoning doesn't make a lick of sense as to why he wouldn't vote me which is why i reacted so strongly. It does however make alot of sense if hes got nepenthes as locked scum. He'd be very hesitant to move the vote.

So I apready said im the elim today. And then everyone will see why this alleged slip doesn't work, because when I flip town, his alleged slip isn't a slip.
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Post Post #2720 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:37 am

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In post 2710, Waterdispenser wrote:
In post 2678, Billy Pilgrim wrote:UNVOTE:

Yeah, back to me being the elim today. And I already explained why it helps.
His acceptance of being exiled like this + the reasoning he gave in earlier posts scream town. I've seen behaviour like this from town!Billy before, although that was long, long ago.
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Post Post #2721 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:40 am

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In post 2713, lilith2013 wrote:2663 seems like he’s referring to billy when he says “if this flips town”
I dont think it does anymore. There's a real behavior/speaking mismatch if he does. Like if he was so sure I would flip scum he'd vote me right? He'll even if scum hed want his outward confidence to match his behavior. It would actually explain why he is hesitant to move his vote off of Nepenthes if he has her locked as scum in his mind.
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Post Post #2722 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:43 am

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Look i'm the elim today. I dont wanna see someone else get voted and we risk another pr claim in D1. Particularly over a weekend where people aren't gonna be paying attention and we've already got V/LAs. If you think im scummy you're on me. Im gonna look back over the votes of me and iso dive them later tonight.
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Post Post #2723 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 2:51 am

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In post 2692, innocentvillager wrote:
In post 2681, NorwegianboyEE wrote:VOTE: InnocentVillager
Idk. I think i should just re-evaluate everything.
IV, compared to his towngame in Lovers Mafia he is actually acting really different.
can you explain your read progression on me up to this point
Your towngame was way more aggressive back in lovers mafia, what is this play you’re going for in this game?
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Post Post #2724 (ISO) » Sat Sep 05, 2020 4:01 am

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right I understand that

I’m curious how this read evolved over time though

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