Open 138: Two of Four (b9) (Game over!) before 777

AceMarksman · Post Post #275 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 7:33 am

Bah, I shouldn't have posed 274, maybe slicey would have missed it. Oh well, too late now.

AceMarksman · Post Post #276 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 7:34 am

Looker: AT and I had scum found and at -1, WHY would you vote me?

AndyTony · Post Post #277 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 7:51 am

Yeah, Looker, that's pretty messed up...

AceMarksman · Post Post #278 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 8:26 am

Gah! we had this game in the bag too!

Slicey · Post Post #279 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 2:00 pm

The final votals!
AceMarksman (3): gorckat, Empking's Alt, Looker
gorckat (2): AceMarksman, AndyTony

AceMarksman,

Townie

, has been lynched!

Empking's Alt,

Townie

, has been endgamed!
Looker,

Town Roleblocker

, has been endgamed!

Slicey's henchman,

AndyTony and gorckat

win!

AceMarksman · Post Post #280 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 2:15 pm

eh, that doesn't suprize me much, actually. I was starting to suspect AT as second scum from the post where he confirmed voted gorckat. His exclamation of "I want to be right on my case against giuseppe" felt like a pseudo scum bus. Still, this game should have gone to day 4 *glares at looker*.

AceMarksman · Post Post #281 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 2:16 pm

Oh hey, I can has IC now!

gorckat · Post Post #282 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 2:56 pm

AceMarksman wrote:Still, this game should have gone to day 4 *glares at looker*.

No. It shouldn't have.

<stares at Andy and his post where he didn't hammer Looker>

AceMarksman · Post Post #283 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 3:18 pm

eh, fairly good game, scum. You probably would have won regardless.

ekiM · Post Post #284 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 9:46 pm

My first loss :-[

This game was pretty much lost once zwet quickhammered. I heard he was trying to improve his play, but that doesn't look much like it to me. There was no way he wasn't D2's lynch, despite AndyScum's attempts to look pro-town by being incredibly reluctant to vote for obvscum (hint: this has the opposite effect, because it is so contrived). The bussing was brazen, but hard to be sure about for preciesly that reason. Gorkcat done good, I thought. Looker and Ace did alright on D3 considering. Should be more careful with your votes at LYLO, I think! Empking was enitrely useless all game.

Nightchoices / reasoning?

Empking · Post Post #285 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 9:48 pm

ekiM wrote:My first loss :-[

This game was pretty much lost once zwet quickhammered. I heard he was trying to improve his play, but that doesn't look much like it to me. There was no way he wasn't D2's lynch, despite AndyScum's attempts to look pro-town by being incredibly reluctant to vote for obvscum (hint: this has the opposite effect, because it is so contrived). The bussing was brazen, but hard to be sure about for preciesly that reason. Gorkcat done good, I thought. Looker and Ace did alright on D3 considering. Should be more careful with your votes at LYLO, I think! Empking was enitrely useless all game.

Nightchoices / reasoning?

Why do you dislike me?

ekiM · Post Post #286 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:08 pm

I don't dislike you. I don't know you. I dislike what I have seen of you playstyle: In my opinion, it is useless to the town.

Why do you play in a way that is useless to the town?

Empking · Post Post #287 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:10 pm

ekiM wrote:I don't dislike you. I don't know you. I dislike what I have seen of you playstyle: In my opinion, it is useless to the town.

Why do you play in a way that is useless to the town?

I don't.

If you consider strongly buddying up with scum in LyoL and quick lynching as good for the town then I play great for the town.

ekiM · Post Post #288 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:13 pm

Are you talking about your play in this game?

Empking · Post Post #289 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:15 pm

ekiM wrote:Are you talking about your play in this game?

Yes.

ekiM · Post Post #290 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:17 pm

By "strongly buddying up with scum in LyoL"? do you mean "voting for townies in LYLO"?

Empking · Post Post #291 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:20 pm

I'm talking about stuff like this.

AceMarksman wrote:Looker, I've got a fairly strong pro-town read from AT, so when he says "step off, i'm about to win" I let him, because if he wins, the town wins with him.

ekiM · Post Post #292 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:29 pm

Ah, so you're going with attacking the play of others rather than defending your own. Interesting. Ace got it wrong, that's true.

You made two posts in a LYLO that lasted a week and 100 posts. One of these was "MC?" and the other was following the scum and putting a vote on a townie. I think that's being useless. Disagree?

Empking · Post Post #293 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:37 pm

ekiM wrote:Ah, so you're going with attacking the play of others rather than defending your own. Interesting. Ace got it wrong, that's true.

Everyone got it wrong the problem comes when you get it wrong and act as strongly scum as you can.

You made two posts in a LYLO that lasted a week and 100 posts. One of these was "MC?" and the other was following the scum and putting a vote on a townie. I think that's being useless. Disagree?

No as I wasn't one of the vote getters so I needed as much info as I could to make an informed decision.

ekiM · Post Post #294 (ISO) » Sat May 02, 2009 10:45 pm

I don't think you're going to be able to convince me that lurking is a playstyle that I should like. Sorry.

AceMarksman · Post Post #295 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 3:37 am

lurking in LyLo is bad, REALLY bad. ekiM is right here, empking.

AndyTony · Post Post #296 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 3:47 am

Giueseppe was going to be replaced so I figured if it took too long I would actually have him mislynched to get immunity.

Gorckat stepped in, and I suggested the nightkill should be ekim - - Every game has a seemingly pro town player, and I wanted that player to be scum, I knew ekim was a strong enough poster to not accept it blindly so put his name in.

Giuseppe was the one on Day1 defending Zwet like crazy, so I tried not to necessarily be against a wagon of "obvscum" so much as insist there was a better target.

Zwet's trying to better his gameplay? that's awesome of him, I hope to see more

Good game, everyone.

- - and Emp - - there's no dislike of you as a person, I sincerely mean that

AndyTony · Post Post #297 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 3:56 am

EBWOP - not mislynched - lynched lol

gorckat · Post Post #298 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 4:00 am

Ace's mistake Day 3 was voting Looker, I think. He and Emp hadn't really done anything, so it was not a good town move to toss a vote out there.

I'm glad Andy insisted on Killing ekiM; I considered a kill of Looker to have potential by negating an entire day of interaction, but that is probably never an optimum scum kill.

I agree that Emp's play Day 3 was completely useless for the town. Whether some V/LA figured into the almost nil activity or not, I don't know. If it was a deliberate attempt to lay back and see what was unfolding, then it backfired.

Also- sorry for the soft roleblocker claim at the end. While I was certain Ace was gone and we had won, I did have some small desire to dick with him. I almost fake-claimed RB earlier, but felt I had already overplayed my hand a little, which is why I started to try to back off.

Couple questions for the crowd:

1) Did Ace "confirming" me as a townie factor into any votes on him or make him look like scum?
2) Was Ace's massclaim plan a good one? It seemed a little like fishing to me.

AceMarksman · Post Post #299 (ISO) » Sun May 03, 2009 4:42 am

I almost got you lynched, gorckat. Allllllllllllmost. *wants a rematch*