Mafia 70: Traditional - Game over!

[Patrick]

Votecount

Niv (2) -- Simenon, Korejora
No Lynch (1) -- Niv

Not voting: Ether, Mastermind of Sin, ZONEACE
6 alive, 4 to lynch.

[Mastermind of Sin]

No lynch would get rid of one suspect, but would it really improve anything? It would reduce the number to lynch down to 3, and it would give the scum a higher percentage of the town's numbers. I don't see how it would really help us, and I'm very suspicious of this suggestion coming from Niv after he refused to defend himself. I'm thinking this is a ploy to get out of the hole he's in.

Vote: Niv

[ZONEACE]

vote sim

Something about niv's last few posts make me believe he's town. I don't really have an explanation, its just a gut feeling, and frankly, it looks like that's as good as anyone else.

[Korejora]

MOS-Sim or ZONE-Niv? *muse*

I sure hope I'm not overlooking Ether for nothing.

Unvote

just to be sure.

[Simenon]

it looks like that's as good as anyone else.

Explain.

MOS-Sim or ZONE-Niv? *muse*

In order for MoS to be scum, he would have had to bus BM and TS heavily. What would make that different from bussing Niv?

[Mastermind of Sin]

vote sim

Something about niv's last few posts make me believe he's town. I don't really have an explanation, its just a gut feeling, and frankly, it looks like that's as good as anyone else.

MOS-Sim or ZONE-Niv? *muse*

I sure hope I'm not overlooking Ether for nothing.

Unvote

just to be sure.

What part of my post do you disagree with? Please, humor me by explaining why my logic is bad here.

[Korejora]

None of it. I personally think Niv is scum, and I was thinking to myself that ZONEACE looks like he's trying to save his scumbuddy. Then, to be fair, I figured I should also point out the parallel pairing from my perspective, which, as Simenon just pointed out, seems much less likely.

As for the unvote, I'm just being careful.

[Niv]

No lynch would get rid of one suspect, but would it really improve anything? It would reduce the number to lynch down to 3, and it would give the scum a higher percentage of the town's numbers. I don't see how it would really help us, and I'm very suspicious of this suggestion coming from Niv after he refused to defend himself. I'm thinking this is a ploy to get out of the hole he's in.

Vote: Niv

Um,is anyone here not a suspect? the scum would kill someone tonight, giving us better odds tomorow. we would lose a suspect, and have better odds. if we lynch today, we lose. this is all as though there is 2 scum left though

[Korejora]

Although I have to admit, I'm a little confused by the line: "it would give scum a higher percentage of the town's numbers". Seems kind of irrelevant in the context you put it in.

After doing a little more reading, I'm getting more confident about the Niv wagon, not because of Niv himself, but because of how the other players played his wagon in conjunction with their behaviour on past wagons.

I'd still like to wait for Ether to get back, though.

[Mastermind of Sin]

No lynch would get rid of one suspect, but would it really improve anything? It would reduce the number to lynch down to 3, and it would give the scum a higher percentage of the town's numbers. I don't see how it would really help us, and I'm very suspicious of this suggestion coming from Niv after he refused to defend himself. I'm thinking this is a ploy to get out of the hole he's in.

Vote: Niv

Um,is anyone here not a suspect? the scum would kill someone tonight, giving us better odds tomorow. we would lose a suspect, and have better odds. if we lynch today, we lose. this is all as though there is 2 scum left though

Personally, I am pretty sure Ether is town, and everyone else seems to feel that way as well. It's likely that she would die if we no lynched.

On top of that, right now the scum can only cast 2 out of the 4 votes needed to lynch. If we no lynch today, we guarantee that the scum improve from 2/4 to 2/3. That means they only need one protown person to place a wrong vote and they win. On top of that, each protown player would still only have a 50% chance of correctly voting for scum, which isn't much of an improvement over the current 40%, which I see as 50% considering that I don't think Ether is scum at all. So we have several advantages now that we wouldn't have tomorrow, and you're trying to deprive us of that to give the scum a better chance as well as save yourself.

[ZONEACE]

vote: Niv

Peekaboo.

Am I the only one that is bothered by this post?

[Mastermind of Sin]

What bothers you about it? Looking at the post in context with the other posts preceding it, it doesn't bother me...

[Ether]

Checking in belatedly. I still favor a Nivlynch. (I'm still weary toward Colin, but I suppose Bookitty's death is a valid reason for his flip today. Meh.) I do not see a conspiracy with Niv's no lynch vote specifically;

I would be surprised to be nightkilled at this point, but be my guest.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Finals week, kinda busy.

[Simenon]

Personally, I am pretty sure Ether is town, and everyone else seems to feel that way as well. It's likely that she would die if we no lynched.

This doesn't help.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Doesn't help what?

[Niv]

I don't see why we are not no lynching, we have significantally better odds tomorow, and even though so many people see ether as town, her dying and turning up town would be a big help as we can trust what she said (anyone dying and coming up town would help, infact someone dying and coming up scum would be better, but i don;t think the scum are gonna self kill ofr shits and giggles)

[Korejora]

Alternatively, we could lynch scum today, and have whoever would die to a no-lynch still around to help catch the other one, too.

[Niv]

Alternatively, we could lynch scum today, and have whoever would die to a no-lynch still around to help catch the other one, too.

The problem with this theroy, is that i',m not scum

[Mastermind of Sin]

Except that your actions support a motive for you TO be scum, so I don't believe you.

[Mastermind of Sin]

Am I the only one here?

[Korejora]

Yes. Everyone else skipped town. You win!

[ZONEACE]

screw it,

unvote vote no lynch

[Korejora]

No lynch is not more likely to save your scumbuddy than voting Simenon. Sorry.

[Simenon]

I don't see why we are not no lynching, we have significantally better odds tomorow, and even though so many people see ether as town, her dying and turning up town would be a big help as we can trust what she said (anyone dying and coming up town would help, infact someone dying and coming up scum would be better, but i don;t think the scum are gonna self kill ofr shits and giggles)

No. The fact that we all think she's town means we should trust what she has to say now. If we allow her to live, the more things she actually can say.

screw it, unvote vote no lynch

So you're his partner, right?