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[Luca Blight]

Why?

[Frogsterking]

Lunar you may want to complete my SSS it might save you D1 if you're town. If you're scum you may not want to complete it though.

[Frogsterking]

https://www.truity.com/test/big-five-personality-test It looks like this version became the go-to for this iteration of the survey.

Something else that I think should be included in the SSS is some kind of follow up test or contest to increase engagement and prevent D1 from stalling. I think the goal of the start overall is to a) increase chances as much as possible of getting a D1 scum lynch and b) make the entire game as difficult for scum and as easy for town as possible.

[Amélie]

I'm not sold on Amelie but for the townblock...

VOTE: bugspray

disliking this more and more.

I am about to answer all of Luca blight's question but their focus on me is unnatural putting them into my scum reads.

Interesting that frog is there too for you but okay. I personally think it’s great.

I think I can townread this even if only a little bit. This was something that stuck out to me.

I'm not really sure what you're townreading here, can you explain it a little more?

I had the same thought process. I tend to think similar thought processes are my alignment. There's certain thoughts that I think can't be faked when they aren't saying it for people to agree but rather just because they think it.

Can I see the Trendall read as well?

I'm not sure what you mean; I gave my (albeit limited) read on Trendall in that post.

Remind me what the read was? Townread or scumread?

Spoiler:

trying to form a town bloc this early when most reads are made purely on gut and most posters aren't even in the double digits in terms of post count is uh

pretty terrible and i'm very wary of the people pushing it because it could very easily be scum trying to form early pockets so they have direct or indirect control of the game.

Grendel saying "I'd probably be unhappy with a town core" in 124 but then going off and asking for TR's in 131 especially strikes me so:

VOTE: Grendel

I like the grendel vote.
Add OutWorldER and Galron to my town reads.

i generally think town blocs are an EoD/mid-late game thing and I don't like to people attempting to form them super early in the day because it leaves a lot of room for error and when done wrong it gives scum good ability to warlock the game

it's part of why I generally don't form a lot of TR's early in the game

regardless I did misread Grendel there so

UNVOTE:

mostly just biding my time at the moment, don't have a super good place to park my vote.

remove townread. you did misread. I liked the vote. didn't check the logic.

You'd automatically hand out a TR to someone who votes your scumread without even checking their reasoning?

I could maybe understand this in a scenario where you have a very strong reason to believe someone is scum, but this doesn't seem to be the case at all with your Grendel SR.

You're telling me it's a bad strategy. Ok but so?
I'm pretty new to mafia with 1 game here and 2 games elsewhere.

Spoiler:

Trendell looking bad. All posts are about RQS, or are not game related.

Looks like snugg scum sliding by in the early game

Mongeral, Luca, and Ameile aslo fall into the same boat of sliding through early game as Trendal. Thier only content being about RQS. They obviously cant all be scum, but i would be surprized if it contained nothing but town.

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Galroen looks ok, he can be town.

Lunar Martian is non-ai RVS and nothing else.

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I always get confused between Galron and Grendel

We both joined this game just to confuse you with our similar sounding names. It was allllll part of the plan!

I personally hate this. It feels to me like you're sorting based on post count whereas that is definitely not how this game works.

Prioritizing the players with little content early-on isn't a bad strategy, and certainly isn't a reason for a strong scumread which Amélie is portraying herself to have.

Dont misrep me. My scum read is not based on that but rather that I think grendall is informed and their tone and the way they approach things doesn't feel right.

I've clearly explained that was more then just pushing "low activity" slots, im not sure if Amélie is missing that reasoning, or is ignoring it.

*@amelie*

You are ESL right? do you rely on translation software, or are you pretty fluent on your own?

Not asking it to be rude or anything. I've played with folks before who relied heavily on translation software before, and sometimes that caused us to talk over each other's heads.

I am ESL, correct. My English is fairly good though so I rarely have to use a translator.

[Amélie]

Luca Blight posts look good on the surface but I dont feel comfortable trying to phase his alignemnt thus far. I guess he's null, and I will keep an eye on him.

I feel like everything you two are saying is just making me believe you two are scum more and more.

Possibly, as I did catch them as scum in a previous game almost entirely based on their meta being so different to their town game.

I took a break from Mafia of about 7/8 months, however, so it's possible they could have improved their scum game in that time or generally changed their meta so we'll see.

I'd like to mention that one of the few times Luca is not talking about only me, it's because his scum buddy(I'm assuming Grendall is his scum buddy) is asking him questions about someone else.

I've kinda ignored Bug's Pray becuase I figured a Town!Frogking could sort that slot. I'd say that Im fine with that slot being flipped, but theres a lot of slots i feel that way about, which is concerning.

I think this post most likely comes from Mafia justifying a willingness to kill anyone over Town being unsure.

I'm listening. Keep talking. I'd like to hear more.

really damn slow game, not sure to attribute that to holidays or other reasons. It feels somewhat weird to me because Frogster definitely tried to establish themselves as a town leader figure and yet the game-state has stalled out with no actual pushes or wagons being decided upon. I'm starting to feel better about Frogster because of that since if he were scum I'd think he'd be propped up more by his team and his votes sheeped.

@Momrangal

who exactly was I discrediting there? I stated a worry about Frogster I shared with Galron and stated a read on NPOM.

You also disappeared a while ago so this is kind of hypocritical.

I've kinda ignored Bug's Pray becuase I figured a Town!Frogking could sort that slot. I'd say that Im fine with that slot being flipped, but theres a lot of slots i feel that way about, which is concerning.

I think this post most likely comes from Mafia justifying a willingness to kill anyone over Town being unsure.

Its not uncommon for me to give up on finding scum D1 and just be willing to vote anybody not in my TR's as the day goes on. D1 has its uses, but its the hardest day for finding scum. Knowing that can be demotivating. :/

what are some of your other reads so far?

This is a very different attitude than what you were saying prior to this if you still remember how you were approaching the game just days ago...

NPOM, amelie, and probably froggie are town in this game.

I especially like Amelie's train of thought posting. It's informative and transparent and something that is harder to fake for newbscum

I don't think this site much likes my posting. My last game on site, town voted me out the day I replaced in which was day 1.

[Amélie]

I'm not really sure how to read Amelie.

Why is that?

NPOM is making sense. That should probably ping me, but it seems okay.

i think this implies either they are in a hood together or that there is a strong history of these two together

I already asked a similar question which galron replied and said they had history.

grendel is town as fuck
like 262 is just so reasonable
he does some questioning with a pagetop that's worded in such an effective way. he asks questions that would cearly provoke different asnwers from town or scum and his paranoia is super healthy

also 162 implies that they are definitely neighbors or maybe masons. i don't think scum would make the kind of associative posts they are

apparently i thought grendel looked really town on page 7

amelie is scummy

i think galron's posting is towning especailly 101

VOTE: amelie

This is extremely weak.

My gut is telling me this is scum!Bugs.

I’ll reflect on it a little more.

The second time Luca comes in again not talking about me is when there are people already saying bugs is scum.
I think I can confidently say Luca is scum and bugspray is town.
I have no other way to read bugspray because they just look extremely scummy in everything they say.

[Amélie]

Town: Frogsterking, Gamma Emerald, Galron, bugspray
Not confident town: Momrangal
Null: OutWorldER, Lunar Martian, Trendall, AGamblingPig
Scum: Grendel, NoPowerOverMe, Luca Blight

This is a full list with everyone in the game.

[Galron]

NPOM is making sense. That should probably ping me, but it seems okay.

i think this implies either they are in a hood together or that there is a strong history of these two together

We've been in a few games together. I guess this means there are hoods this game.

[Lunar Martian]

What are hoods?

[Momrangal]

Neighborhoods

[Momrangal]

I'm also most definitely not giving this game the energy it deserves

[Momrangal]

VOTE: NPOM

I wonder what this'll do

[Gamma Emerald]

I'm also most definitely not giving this game the energy it deserves

Is this for irl reasons or something else?

[Momrangal]

Definitely part of it. I also just lost a mylo

[Gamma Emerald]

That’s definitely valid. Any other spicy reads?

[Momrangal]

I wish.

I'm not sure how to feel towards you, given our history though. I don't remember the last time you tried to take a leadership position

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t recall any game with you where I wasn’t a replace in tbh
To me knowledge there was Ttyll mafia, Terror in the City, and maybe one or two I’m forgetting.

[Momrangal]

I don't remember exact games, but I always felt like you blended into the background especially as town

[Gamma Emerald]

I don’t think that was the time where I really had the gumption to drive stuff like I do now

[Gamma Emerald]

I checked your egosearch and it turned up 2 more games, game throwing UPick and American presidents
Iirc I deliberately toned myself down for American presidents, and gamethrowing I came in halfway through with a shit role

[GeorgeBailey]

Votecount 1.8

bugspray(3)

~ Trendall(14), Gamma Emerald(49), NoPowerOverMe(52)

Trendall(2)

~ Grendel(31), OutWorldER(10)

NoPowerOverMe(2)

~ Lunar Martian(5), Momrangal(24)

Lunar Martian(2)

~ AGamblingPig(3), Frogsterking(28)

Amélie(2)

~ Luca Blight(21), bugspray(22)

Gamma Emerald(1)

~ Amélie(32)

Frogsterking(1)

~ Galron(18)


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[Trendall]

Sorry yea I am here

[Trendall]

I think this page says either Gamma or Luca is Mafia.

I agree with this post and happy to get either of those players.

[Trendall]

Actually not Luca necessarily, it's more that I'm happy to eliminate Gamma.

[Momrangal]

*whistles*