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Post Post #300 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:12 pm

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In post 277, Tammy wrote:
In post 275, Prism wrote:Can you elaborate on what would hypothetically make this a masterpiece?
I’m posting.
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Post Post #301 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:14 pm

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In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 276, Tammy wrote:Nope. I pretty much have a healthy dose of suspicion of everyone here right now.
imo you're being too paranoid. just because you've falsely cleared people for similar reasons in the past doesn't make them invalid.
Infy if you're going to post irrelevant gibberish you must do so with sufficient quantity and humor such that people don't notice you are mostly posting irrelevant gibberish.
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Post Post #302 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:14 pm

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i don't have too many thoughts yet. prism feels somewhat towny, the early townread on pooky was kinda serious, mafman pings me a little but i don't have anything concrete.
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Post Post #303 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:17 pm

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In post 301, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:
In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 276, Tammy wrote:Nope. I pretty much have a healthy dose of suspicion of everyone here right now.
imo you're being too paranoid. just because you've falsely cleared people for similar reasons in the past doesn't make them invalid.
Infy if you're going to post irrelevant gibberish you must do so with sufficient quantity and humor such that people don't notice you are mostly posting irrelevant gibberish.
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Post Post #304 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:20 pm

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that's like the fastest you've ever townread me which gives me paranoid vibes unfortunately lol
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Post Post #305 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:26 pm

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The difference between this game and every other one you have played with me is vast, Infinity. Does this sound no alarm bells?
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Post Post #306 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:28 pm

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In post 302, Infinity 324 wrote:i don't have too many thoughts yet. prism feels somewhat towny, the early townread on pooky was kinda serious, mafman pings me a little but i don't have anything concrete.
just pings? or do we have something to go back and forth on
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Post Post #307 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:28 pm

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In post 290, Prism wrote:I guess part of my hesitation here is that so much of this is self-facing, and reacting to my wrong expectations to ameliorate me. There's no weaponization of the expectations you have for me, and that throws me. I was surprised to see you drop the explanation about my preference so quickly. It is a perceptive and clear divergence.
In post 291, Prism wrote:Like I'm astounded that you took the preference seriously enough to remember it and you make the connection. No one else onsite even
remembers
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I'm not ameliorating you; I'm just existing. I mean maybe I am? But it's not purposeful. I expect you to question me and you are. I'm sorry if I'm being weird; I'm tired, don't feel all that great, and am in a bit of a weird headspace being here today. I don't know that without that if I'd be much different, maybe I'd have more energy I don't know. I don't think I'm being very off but maybe I am.

I'm not sure why you think I would weaponize any expectations I have of you right when the game begins considering I have a tendency to observe these things for a bit anyway. The preference that you're talking about might be a bigger thing to me if we were in a normal game. The game mechanic alone goes a long way in negating that very preference. In fact, even in asking it I didn't think it really mattered much because my two pieces were is prism doing the puffery thing or does the game mechanic negate it. As far as I'm concerned, that's something I can't differentiate as it stands right now because the game mechanic exists and your approach could be very different. I'm sure if I wanted to look solvey I could make a bigger deal out of it than it was, but I'm not scum and for me it was a passing thought that stuck out enough for me to ask but not make much of.
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Post Post #308 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:28 pm

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In post 305, Prism wrote:The difference between this game and every other one you have played with me is vast, Infinity. Does this sound no alarm bells?
it doesn't seem that different to me tbh? it looks like you're trying to sort tammy, and not trying to take control of the gamestate, which is pretty towny
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Post Post #309 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:29 pm

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In post 281, Prism wrote:So far I'd trust literally no one, which kind of owns
i would, in all honesty, trust the first person who trusts me
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Post Post #310 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:30 pm

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Lady Tammy could you explain the feelings/headspace you were in when you made this following post?


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In post 238, Tammy wrote:Dooo iiiiit
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Post Post #311 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:31 pm

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In post 306, MafMen wrote:
In post 302, Infinity 324 wrote:i don't have too many thoughts yet. prism feels somewhat towny, the early townread on pooky was kinda serious, mafman pings me a little but i don't have anything concrete.
just pings? or do we have something to go back and forth on
just pings, mostly you're sorting but not particularly townily
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Post Post #312 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:32 pm

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whats everyones read on cookie?
i feel even with those 3 posts fae have made some of the most ai posts yet
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Post Post #313 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:33 pm

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In post 298, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 276, Tammy wrote:Nope. I pretty much have a healthy dose of suspicion of everyone here right now.
imo you're being too paranoid. just because you've falsely cleared people for similar reasons in the past doesn't make them invalid.
I'm not paranoid at all. Not yet. We're under 20 pages in the first 24 hours of the game, and nobody has done anything that to me reads very town for any decent reason. That's just how it goes sometimes.
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Post Post #314 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:33 pm

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In post 310, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Lady Tammy could you explain the feelings/headspace you were in when you made this following post?


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In post 238, Tammy wrote:Dooo iiiiit
I was in a very amused headspace!
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Post Post #315 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 311, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 306, MafMen wrote:
In post 302, Infinity 324 wrote:i don't have too many thoughts yet. prism feels somewhat towny, the early townread on pooky was kinda serious, mafman pings me a little but i don't have anything concrete.
just pings? or do we have something to go back and forth on
just pings, mostly you're sorting but not particularly townily
i get that alot
either it evens out eventually and i get wide townread or im eliminated day 2

good thing this game has no eliminations :D
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Post Post #316 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 314, Tammy wrote:
In post 310, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:Lady Tammy could you explain the feelings/headspace you were in when you made this following post?


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In post 238, Tammy wrote:Dooo iiiiit
I was in a very amused headspace!
I was flattered that y'all were talking about me and whether or not I could be trusted such that you wanted to test it.
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Post Post #317 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:34 pm

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In post 308, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 305, Prism wrote:The difference between this game and every other one you have played with me is vast, Infinity. Does this sound no alarm bells?
it doesn't seem that different to me tbh? it looks like you're trying to sort tammy, and not trying to take control of the gamestate, which is pretty towny
Can you be more specific what "take control of the gamestate" means? I ask because I have never seen this phrase used in a way that convinces me it is more than snake oil.

I sort players every game. I use it as pretense to manipulate them every game. Where is the difference? I had "control" over most of the "gamestate" our first run of this and used it to shut out catboi and amplify HEM. I was town. While it took me awhile to get it in grasp, I was firm and a dominant voice all of Forest Fire, and leveraged it into an unpopular scumflip and a controversial second.
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Post Post #318 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:35 pm

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did you think I would trust you just because you asked?

I'm pockited but i'm not like
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besides leaving with you now would mean I can't like flirt with you anymore :<
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Post Post #319 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:35 pm

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In post 312, MafMen wrote:whats everyones read on cookie?
i feel even with those 3 posts fae have made some of the most ai posts yet
felt like the worst sus was pretty bad so i asked faer about it, besides that nothing why
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Post Post #320 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:35 pm

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I'll respond to Tammy later, at some point I have to get off my phone and finish my sets.
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Post Post #321 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:36 pm

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In post 312, MafMen wrote:whats everyones read on cookie?
i feel even with those 3 posts fae has* made some of the most ai posts yet
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Post Post #322 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:36 pm

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In post 318, PookyTheMagicalBear wrote:did you think I would trust you just because you asked?

I'm pockited but i'm not like
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besides leaving with you now would mean I can't like flirt with you anymore :<
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Post Post #323 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:37 pm

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oh how you play my heartstrings like a virtuoso
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Post Post #324 (ISO) » Tue Oct 19, 2021 3:38 pm

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In post 317, Prism wrote:
In post 308, Infinity 324 wrote:
In post 305, Prism wrote:The difference between this game and every other one you have played with me is vast, Infinity. Does this sound no alarm bells?
it doesn't seem that different to me tbh? it looks like you're trying to sort tammy, and not trying to take control of the gamestate, which is pretty towny
Can you be more specific what "take control of the gamestate" means? I ask because I have never seen this phrase used in a way that convinces me it is more than snake oil.

I sort players every game. I use it as pretense to manipulate them every game. Where is the difference? I had "control" over most of the "gamestate" our first run of this and used it to shut out catboi and amplify HEM. I was town. While it took me awhile to get it in grasp, I was firm and a dominant voice all of Forest Fire, and leveraged it into an unpopular scumflip and a controversial second.
normally i'd expect town to care about what they care about and good scum players to take a broader view of the game, interact with a lot of players, since that's how players tend to get influence in mafia games ime

there's a difference between getting influence and trying to get influence.

i'm not confident that this is correct so the read is weak.
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