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Votecount 2-I (Unchanged)

With 3 alive, it takes 2 to hammer.

votes

Not Voting (3):

Enchant, JacksonVirgo, Aureal

notes

• The deadline is due in (expired on 2024-02-16 05:37:26).
  
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[Enchant]

Blah spotting redirector claim in normal game as fake, it will be called instantly by any player reading mod post.

FL lie was lie for lie sake because FL is lying liar.

[JacksonVirgo]

You're blowing up my random on the spot questionnaire to Enchant as something I consider a mafia bible. I think I'm obviously town, I stated quick on the spot reasoning I feel was tangible to think about but not expecting that to be the entirety of my case

[Enchant]

Btw i was mostly on your side, i only speaked against to trick Aureal.


That hammer was cheeeky.

[Enchant]

I think she are coached or something.

[JacksonVirgo]

Aureal where is your head at?

[JacksonVirgo]

I assume you think I'm a wolf but I want you to put it in words

[Aureal]

I'm not entirely sure yet, I'm at work so I'm slow and not even following your back and forth completely

I do think you're most likely wolf, yeah. Apart from other stuff it'd be pretty weird for wolfEnchant to make an assertion like mafia not having two fv if he's just going to have to walk it back, so even more townpoints to him.

I'll be more available later

[JacksonVirgo]

I'm not entirely sure yet, I'm at work so I'm slow and not even following your back and forth completely

I do think you're most likely wolf, yeah. Apart from other stuff it'd be pretty weird for wolfEnchant to make an assertion like mafia not having two fv if he's just going to have to walk it back, so even more townpoints to him.

I'll be more available later

No rush, except there is very much a rush cuz of the small deadline. The feeling is mutual, I believe you're the most likely wolf as well and I was genuinely hoping you'd just slap a vote on me fast so I wouldn't have to put effort into making sure my read is accurate.

[Aureal]

Yeah, I get that there's not a lot of time, that's why I tried to get some quick responses in as soon as I could and even bothered mentioning being busy with work. Usually I'd just pop in whenever. I've never played a 3-day deadline game before, I'm used to at least twice that and it's messing with me a bit. Reading back a bit now, let me know if there's anything specific you want me to address.

[Aureal]

teammate prob is simultaneous combined vig+BG AND fruit vendor.

That does seem pretty damn likely now. Shield interrupts the other wolf from killing themself with the combined action and Shield dies instead. We already guessed at that before, didn't we?

[Aureal]

Probably shouldn't presume you could lie about claiming fruits.


... Or mafia knew i am informed from start.

oh lord, I'm glad the Normal Idea thread is closed or else someone would totally go put a role that's Informed about a role that's Informed about a role that's Informed about a role that's Informed about a role that's Informed about a role...

[Aureal]

No, I'm not and even if I were I don't know the wolves plans I can only assume based on what I know and what I know insinuates FL planned to go down after I had called him out for his claim.

Well yeah I think you are. You're saying "look, I totally am the one who screwed up Leaf by calling out his fakeclaim so I'm not scum! But also, if you don't believe that, I'm still not scum because the claim was intended to be caught out as fake and I'm not good enough at wolf to dare plan to torpedo Leaf!"

I have issues with this.

I'm saying that from that point of being called out, the focus was to shift to using them as a scapegoat. I never said that they planned that from the start

So you think you're the only one who realized the claim was fake right away?! Just because you conveniently happened to be online at just the right moment and managed to respond faster? I also saw that it was impossible, I just didn't react as fast or make a big point of explaining details of the obvious. So this is really not sitting right with me.

I'm saying that I called it out, and that scum probably spoke about it or mentioned it prior to claiming. I don't care who else could have called it out that is not my point.

????

You think that the wolves talked about the claim beforehand? That would mean that they either didn't know the role was impossible, or

knowingly

had Leaf claim an

obviously

fake role and incur the expected scumreads. I think the three of us would all veto that claim unless making Leaf a target was

the point

- Drew was the only one who might not care enough about the mech to not realize that it was impossible. And we can obviously see now that Drew/Leaf was not the scumteam.

So then, why would the wolves agree to have Leaf draw such heat? He wasn't actually being scumread until then, we were just messing around for lulz and reactions (as far as I was concerned- when I voted I had certainly intended to unvote before the 12 hours were up). I've been struggling with this one, but your proclamations about how

you

got Leaf to crack and openwolf are certainly giving some shape to my thoughts. I need to look more at what you've been up to, I basically just had you in my blind spot all day one because the others were being actively suspicious enough and you worked with me.

And there's also the possibility that they didn't talk about the claim and Leaf just acted on impulse. Which to me sounds like Leaf was genuinely annoyed at the pressure and decided to screw around. Which would indicate that he actually

felt

pressure, which doesn't make much sense but even less if one of the votes on him is his team-mate. Which... would implicate Enchant, hence my still having some concern there. So I was surprised to see that you've pretty much been acting like Enchant is definitely town.

[Aureal]

Okay, it's been nice, uh, talking with you guys.

Well, I guess it still beats most of my ELOs where I just get snap-voted by the other town without people even wanting to talk to me. So thanks for that.

Anyways, I'm looking back at some earlier stuff and this sequence is kind of standing out:

Actually I wanna vote out Enchant. We know FL is a wolfy boi why not clear someone while we can

Okay... I still can't figure out what this is trying to say so I guess I should just ask.

We know FL is a wolf, there is no solving we need to do there. Why should we elim someone we know is wolf, knowing that it'll end in a 2v1 tomorrow when we can clear someone we would otherwise need to try and solve tomorrow when it's more risky and could just outright lose

I just remembered that i helped bianco to get some setup going in normal and it had almost same premise.

... It didn't fill.
Maybe this one is attempt to cut corners. But i am not betting at that, otherwise I wouldn't be allowed to play here, due me almost knowing setup. Still grey area to talk about it in case i am wrong, but i know how we solved this problem.

Either way, we are given enough information. FL is confirmed wolf, I don't think anybody is arguing otherwise. So we collectively decide who the most likely wolf is OR the most difficult person to solve, gank them while we have that safety net

So Jackson successfully defuses the threat of a wagon on Leaf for the day here.

think it's aureal and drew?

I do still think it is Aureal though

Genuine question, you think aureal positions herself like they did with FL's wagon if she were wolf?

Mhm, this conversation is meaningless and gets resolved later or it doesn't. Enchant is probably Town. I like Aureal so gonna pop the malpracticing doctor

VOTE: Drew

And then he sees that Drew is making a bad push on me and decides to take my side. Leaf throws suspicion all over all of us but votes me. These actions basically set the day up as Drew vs. Aureal, where I'm reasonably likely to get hammered by Enchant being Enchant (Leaf even tries to bait him into it) or I end up voting Drew (whom I'd already expressed some suspicion of) and then Leaf gets to jump in with a sussy hammer.
But even worse, today we get this post:

It's a non-traditional game, they were planning on killing FL (or forced to? I'm not entirely sure). Aureal and FL have been linked somewhat since game start, Aureal pushed FL first and foremost out of a joke and the only serious push against them initially was when I called them out for fake-claiming an impossible role. I believe FL tried to sow doubt in you particularly by saying that you're obv-town, and I believe the hammer was supposed to be played out in a way where it's a "sniped vote" but it very clearly wasn't.

How the heck can Jackson be acting in 154 like he thinks I

wouldn't

act that way towards Leaf as a partner and then today it's a partnered link?!? This reeks of pocketing me and then pivoting once the plan to get me to vote Drew worked. And I've already touched on why the talking himself up for his 'serious push' comes off badly. He wants this credit so badly and it's sooooo stupid of a reason, it's like whaaaaaaat. The more he talks about it the more I feel like that's why we had the Leaf breakdown, to make Jackson look like a Serious Anti-Leaf Person as opposed to me.

Ugh, more tomorrow, I've really gotta sleep, starting to lose coherence.

[Aureal]

( I may also be slightly grumpy because I saw Jackson has definitely been around here this evening while I was but didn't respond to anything even after acting like I gotta hurry up and do stuff. Like really, nice to know updating your gtkas thread is so much more important than talking to me with our small deadline. )

[JacksonVirgo]

Stalking me?

[JacksonVirgo]

I will respond soon

[Aureal]

Me last night:

Oh look, I see on the board index that Jackson has posted in General Discussion; he's around now so he should be coming in to respond to me shortly since he was concerned about not having enough time

<several hours later after I've stayed up past when I should be asleep>

Okay what was he even doing, maybe he just popped in briefly and didn't actually have time for anything serious

*checking what Jackson's been posting and seeing multiple decently lengthy gtkas posts*

[Enchant]

Fun fact i also check thread i just see no point.

I don't want to make first move.

[Aureal]

But Enchant, town has a 100% victory rate in ELOs where I get to make the decisive vote!

And, uh... *checks notes* 0% in ones where I don't.

Wow, that started out as a joke but now I'm just depressed.

[Aureal]

I guess maybe that kinda explains why I seem to instinctively want to hold out for a hammer even when I have high confidence in my solve, like the goose game >_<

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