Weird Dreams Mafia Redux [Finished]

[Ircher]

Okay, so I'm a three-shot Alarmist.

I hadn't read anything N1, so I just randomly picked Morning Tweet.

N2 I targeted Radical Rat.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Ok after further research most Marshall's on this site have been the SC2 Mafia version where they're an IC that allows multiple lims to happen per day after they reveal, which makes me think the Alien part of KKFC's claim could be bullshit and sheep/his CL culted KKFC n1/n2. KKFC probably was originally Neighborizer Marshall though which is why he crumbed it

This is a valid concern. Still, there are enough circumstantial things that I hope clears me.

VOTE: WhemeStar this role seems more likely to flip scum than I originally thought.

I actually was willing to originally unvote WhemeStar since the TA claim seemed real. Then I read a lot of posts like Rauth's 2163 again and realized that from my point of view it should basically be a scum claim.

I actually realize that this all could have still happened if I were a neighborizing (SC2 Mafia) Marshall that had been culted, but I return with my second super important piece of evidence, which is

who the fuck is culting me n1 this game

?

I'm mainly disappointed in myself for not softing what a marshall does. Then again, I was mainly just really confused with why my role name was Marshall. I wouldn't be surprised if my Flavor Name was Marshall just like WhemeStar was Eric, honestly.

Also, I just remembered this at the end of my post, but if I was originally an (SC2 Mafia) Marshall and I was culted, then couldn't I just not bring up that I crumbed Marshall Day 1? No one would ever have found it, with it not being a real role on the Wiki anyways. I could have just said I was a Neighborizing roleblocker or something. At my level of play, I don't think anyone is going to be suspicious of me for not crumbing.

[KatyKimFanClub]

Eh, reading my above post, I don't do a really good job defending myself when I'm town because a lot of my arguments boil down to just psychology or WIFOM.

I'm confident I can clear myself via my night action.

[KatyKimFanClub]

The wording on my role ability is different than what I am reading on the Wiki or other games on this site for Alien, Roleblocker, and Rolestopper. I am going to look for more clarification.

[Morning Tweet]

Your claim is confusing. Can you claim in a more precise manner?

during the day i can pick a dead player to open a chat with at night. Or, I can do the reverse while dead. Can't do it forever though

[Morning Tweet]

Well reverse as in I'm dead. It's still a seance during the night

[Morning Tweet]

Okay, so I'm a three-shot Alarmist.

I hadn't read anything N1, so I just randomly picked Morning Tweet.

N2 I targeted Radical Rat.

Alarmist as in, you prevent culting?

:shifty eyes:

[Ircher]

Yes, I prevent alignment changes.

[KatyKimFanClub]

If there's a Cult would the mod disclose that fact?

Checks out I think?

[Radical Rat]

Who are we still waiting on. Just Flea/Rauth?

[KatyKimFanClub]

I think so. Rauth will be on V/LA for a decent amount of time, though.

[Rautherdir]

Right then. I'm a JOAT. I started out with four abilities: Vigilante, Tracker, Absorber, and Bus Driver.
Absorber lets me gain a one-shot variant of another person's active abilities as long as they are not unique, I used this on Radical Rat on night 2 and got another 1-shot Vigilante from them. (I perhaps should have saved this ability for a more useful target, but two kills sounded decent enough)
I did not use any of my abilities night one, which I did soft (Stating that I had to catch up on the previous day's flip as well on day 2.)

I am... interested in whether the redirection makes more sense as a redirector of Abengation onto Radical Rat, or if it was instead a deflector from Ircher onto Radical Rat though... I doubt there'd be another Bus Driver ability in the game.

[Morning Tweet]

So long as they are not unique, that part checks out

Bus driver is.. really interesting.. so you weren't related to the redirection abnegation reported. I wouldn't count out multiple bus drivers, why should the multiple redirect roles be different from one another anyway

Although i dont reeally know what type of redirect is most likely. I'm not really sure what scum is doing, I didn't think Aureal was a nightkill targt last night

Switching Random Nurse with RR, why? Its possible i guess
Or redirecting Abneg to RR (i doubt that happened)
or a deflector on Ircher that went to RR (THAT REMINDS ME That was my first guess reading Abnegation saying that!). Totally possible theres an aspect of ircher that redirects something like a role cop's prying ..


Do you really think scum would spend a bus driver or redirect shot actively on RR or Abnegation on N1, but not kill them? it's way more likely it was something passive

[Morning Tweet]

Like if scum suspected something with RR or Abneg or whatever and wished to interfere with them, why are they killing Aureal? I kill the people I can and interfere with people im not sure i can get rid of but like , im gonna come back to finish them or do something right? It kind of seems like scum must've been guessing shooting Aureal which in my mind doesnt jive with using redirection on the first night

(Shattered if scum has unlimited redirection i guess)

Too speculative?

..

RIP Cat Scratch taken awqay too soon (Even though I was voting you 90% of d1)

[Morning Tweet]

I am realizing Aureal was a mason (There are more masons than I remembered)

Still, would have thought Aureal is the one they're interfering/investigating/actioning whatever with N1 while killing whoever it was then coming back to her later

Makes no sense to bus drive RR and Ircher with each other as a scum action on N1 then just not do anything else or to force abnegation to target someone. thats a powerful ability used immediately and then they dont even follow up on that

Am I crazy?

Passive redirect makes way more sense. Although im sure there are more options than "Ircher redirects investigatives off himself" (But that makes so much sense)

[KatyKimFanClub]

Is the continuation of your logic here that Ircher left that off his roleclaim because it's basically a scumclaim in a game with this many tony investigatives?

[KatyKimFanClub]

town* oof

[DragonEater70]

Disclaimer: I have not had enough sleep tonight. Any and all posts I make today might be illogical as a result. I might also miss important details.

[DragonEater70]

Okay, so I'm a three-shot Alarmist.

I hadn't read anything N1, so I just randomly picked Morning Tweet.

N2 I targeted Radical Rat.

Just to make sure, your role counters alignment changing actions? Or something else? Because this seems to imply that KKFC is lying.

[DragonEater70]

Well reverse as in I'm dead. It's still a seance during the night

Am I right in assuming your role is identical to the one StD had last game?

[Flea The Magician]

Spent lik 15 minutes trying to verify the Drew crumb just to realize that was a Nightmare thread thing

You could say I'm a big contributor to our efforts

STD would totally "Wheme is town you guys r dum" as town (so like indignant posting) Especially after Team mafia lol. I generally dont suspect STD

VOTE: Abnegation you're alive !

Flea wouldn't scum!you have the same number of spoons though, negating the "scum!flea puts in more effort to avoid cheap win" thing?

Scum flea dedicates more spoons and makes heavy use of notes.

You are right ultimately, in that it would still be less effort than what people are used to from me.

[Flea The Magician]

Alright, we've talked things over, and have agreed to a massclaim today.

Is anyone out here opposed?

Yup. Me.

[Flea The Magician]

- usesPython, Radical Rat, Abnegation, Ranger, Save the Dragons, Katy, DragonEater

are reasonably town then 7/13

Camel is my personal picck probably town



Sheep is a messenger neighbourized/aliened twice by Katy .... I believe him i mean he's probably town


Ircher, Rauth, Flea are all question marks (Although Flea has already hinted)

So bar Katy or someone else having culted halfo f us and we're being deceived into a false sense of security, this looks pretty good

I did?

[Flea The Magician]

Guess id better claim. Im not happy about it

N1 gave Std an invention with no message.
N2 gave usesPython an invention with no message.

Both inventions are single shot and create a clear. I cant submit the same invention multiple times in a row .

[Radical Rat]

Problems Time:

1. No one claimed to have put Drew in (this was expected)

2. No one claimed the public TA result on me (this should have happened)